Good day to all. First time poster here.

I have read [url]http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?&tid=28000[/url] and got the gist of what is happening. It is a serious problem if the online reader blatantly ignores the wishes of the scanlating groups of not putting the manga on their site. It is just a case of greed and manipulation.

So I propose a simple solution to the scanlating teams who are not getting the respect that they deserve:

BOYCOTT

ONLINE

READERS

Stop scanlating mangas in a while to send a message to the online readers.

Measure up and take a stand. I love reading mangas but I hate greedy bastards so not being able to read my favorite series in a while isn't gonna kill me and everyone as well.

I hope this idea helps you get your message across. i mean, the scanlators have asked nicely and they still ignored your wishes.

Peace out~

Technically, what all of us does in the realm of manga scanlations, IE scanlating, hosting, and even reading online manga, skirts the borders of legality. I think we hardly have any right to point fingers at someone who is semi-stealing the semi-stolen work of a scanlation group, especially when we read the semi-stolen manga, which is almost stealing in and of itself, in the first place.

Granted, it is rude of them not to comply to a scanlators wishes, but many legal entities would consider it quite rude of those scanlators to scanlate in the first place.

In the end, I'm reading my manga and I don't feel bad about it, because this most definitely isn't a black and white moral issue here.

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This really won't affect anything.
There are waaaaaay too many people out there who rely on/are completely dedicated to and dependent on manga-hosting reader sites (not the personal scanlation online readers).
I'm sure that they don't give a crap about scanlators' policies. :<

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This really won't affect anything.
There are waaaaaay too many people out there who rely on/are completely dedicated to and dependent on manga-hosting reader sites (not the personal scanlation online readers).
I'm sure that they don't give a crap about scanlators' policies. :<

Oh, and I'll second this one too. Can't believe I missed that little angle.

And I'll add to it. Not everyone using hosting sites use mangaupdates, so even if you could conceivably get EVERYONE here to boycott, that probably wouldn't actually do that much.

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nope. no1 will listen to your word of boycott.
what the scanlators can do though (and some scanlators does it) is not to release downloadable picture file of their work, but to have their own online reader. in this way, the people can only read their scans in the online reader and it cannot be uploaded to other host sites (since there is no picture file to upload)

A boycott of this type would require planning for at least a week or two ahead of time and it would need to be a coordinated set of dates that scanlators could follow easily.

I wouldn't expect too many groups to join in anyway though.

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if someone would hack mangafox and post what it was doing on the page explaining the site was hacked and why... it might change things.

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Hacker for hire.
if someone would hack mangafox and post what it was doing on the page explaining the site was hacked and why... it might change things.

Imo hacking into their website will probably make you look like an ass that's forcibly trying to change things. I doubt "fighting fire with fire" would work for this. I don't have an opinion on this myself but i still think hacking into mangafox is just as bad as mangafox disrespecting scanlators.

how so?
youd be stopping something illegal...
thats like saying you shot a criminal, so that makes you a criminal.

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how so?
youd be stopping something illegal...
thats like saying you shot a criminal, so that makes you a criminal.

Had to respond when I saw this. Not in relation to the issue being discussed here, but yes, shooting a criminal does make you a criminal, except for certain circumstances, like self-defence, or if you are a cop and there is no other choice. There is a name for a person who shoot criminals without legal authority: vigilante. Law and "right" are not always related, and it is the law that defines a criminal.

hacking: hacking into an website like mangafox should be fairly easy.. but someone with any real skill won't hack into an manga website..

boycotting: boycotting won't work, there's so many groups out there and most of them don't really care except to allow other people to enjoy manga. boycotting would be fairly pointless in my opinion. (i certainly wouldn't and so should 95% of the people)

D'oh!

i dont know about mangafox but mangareader follow the rules of scanning groups

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how so?
youd be stopping something illegal...
thats like saying you shot a criminal, so that makes you a criminal.

Had to respond when I saw this. Not in relation to the issue being discussed here, but yes, shooting a criminal does make you a criminal, except for certain circumstances, like self-defence, or if you are a cop and there is no other choice. There is a name for a person who shoot criminals without legal authority: vigilante. Law and "right" are not always related, and it is the law that defines a criminal.

murder is a crime, look at it this way. Just because a ANOTHER law allows say, a police officer, the right to murder someone. does this make it any better? I dont think so. if you shoot a criminal for any reason, they had it coming. Ever heard of karma? Just because your a cop changes nothing.** If you see a crime and do nothing to stop it, you are just as guilty as the person who committed it.**

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how so?
youd be stopping something illegal...
thats like saying you shot a criminal, so that makes you a criminal.

Had to respond when I saw this. Not in relation to the issue being discussed here, but yes, shooting a criminal does make you a criminal, except for certain circumstances, like self-defence, or if you are a cop and there is no other choice. There is a name for a person who shoot criminals without legal authority: vigilante. Law and "right" are not always related, and it is the law that defines a criminal.

murder is a crime, look at it this way. Just because a ANOTHER law allows say, a police officer, the right to murder someone. does this make it any better? I dont think so. if you shoot a criminal for any reason, they had it coming. Ever heard of karma? Just because your a cop changes nothing.** If you see a crime and do nothing to stop it, you are just as guilty as the person who committed it.**

Lol well on this basis, if someone is a murderer and you shoot him then it's justified. But since you also killed him i can come and kill you and say that you had it coming because you would be in the same position as that murderer. So if you try to stop a crime with another socially unfavorable method you become as bad as the one you tried to stop. Some call it "stooping to one's level".

i say leave things as they are
if scanlators offer their downloads to everyone they're practically asking websites like mangafox and mangahere to steal them without their permission
you want to protect your scanlations,you limit their availability on the internet,end of story.

@kittycat101
with that kind of ideology you're being the living embodiment of light from deathnote haha
killing a criminal is still killing
thats why courts and judges exist...to conduct the trial and give the criminal a proper punishment after thorough investigations of the criminal's past,reasons,mental state etc.