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1:02 pm, Apr 30 2009
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im up to date to the newest chapters of berserk...
but there are things i dont still get about the story, which i was hoping someone who understand complex stories more can explain certain things to me...
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1 - what is that beast that always talks to gutts in his mind? does that have to do with the armor he wears, or it doesnt at all?

2 - why did casca lose her memory, was it like shock? or was it something related to the weird process in mating with the god version of griffith?

3 - when berserk introduced magic is a side theme to the story, i found it very ingenius... but like what is this magic and sorcery, so far i know that it has nothing to do with the main plot or the hands of god... is it like a side dish appetizer for readers to enjoy, just like the devil's fruit from one piece?

4 - when i saw griffith revived or turned back to human(?) , i was confused... did he just come back from the different dimension or whatever that place is?

5 - so if you die in the world of berserk, you just get flushed down as part of that stream in that different dimension?

6 - is it clearly stated or said, what the story of griffith's side is all about? is he simply trying to take over countries, or what?

7 - can anyone just use magic in the world of berserk if you just know how to or something? or do you need some sort of specialness like the world of harry potter or star wars,,,

8 - what does using that little egg with face on it do? the 4~5 god hands just show up and give you power confused and what does that actually logically do to youre body? it seems more like some messy surgery to me, becoming more beast like, and just sick (like nasty)

9 - when gutts go berserk mode, what does that actually do? all it seemed was it just made him literally more berserk and suicidal...

10 - is griffith actually leaned towards homosexual?? im not assuming that just cause he simply slept with a man.... but it seems to me the author is using alot of historic refereces, and griffith seems to be describing alot of those historical figures , like a man described in legends or folktales in which they always have controversies in being homosexual...

11 - the story is in a made-up world or an alternate dimension to reality, but what would you say is the race or closest country to describe to gutts, griffith, casca, and the other dark skinned people? cause anime like FMA are confirmed to be more german, considering that the real world version takes place in germany, so im assuming something like the berserk characters are using a huge cultural reference...

12 - how old is gutts? he seems to be growing white hair, but it can just be some side effects from his armor, or battling weird monsters...

13 - so the world of berserk, is being controled by this being that looks like some wormhole?? like every logic in them?

14 - so the god hands can be killed? assuming the skull guy (good skull guy) who seems pretty intelligence even infiltrating the different dimension too, attacking the bad skull guy (one of the god hands)..

15 - the skull guy (the good one), how did he get his powers? magic or that little egg looking thing? though im more convinced towards magic, considering he knew that old women.... was he like some former king or something?

16 - nosferatu... why is he so obedient towards griffith? does that have anything to do with his left horn getting cut off somehow?

17 - i cant seem to get the historical mechanics of the setting? i see a mixture of cultures... but i guess its fantasy so random mixes...

18 - isnt the berserk franchise being abit too harsh on brown skinned people? i mean they display white ppl beautifully and the brown people like monster-like... the only brown person that seems rather good looking is casca, and thats it, in which shes more allianced to the white race... just curious, im neither so i dont care, but just wondering if it faces racial controversies...

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answers to what i decided to read until i became bored. also, im not 100% sure about anything
1-the beast has nothing to do with the berserker armor. the beast is kinda like his inner apostle. sort of like a result of his fighting the demons for so long
2-i dunno
3-not to be a dork or anything but it seems like you answered your own question
4-im pretty sure he is inhabiting the body of gutts+caska's child
5-dunno
6-griffith's dream is to take his own country. that dream does not die even if he is a member of god hand
7-i dont think there is any special requirements; its just very difficult
8-there are two kinds of behelit. the red one that griffith had was called the egg of the conqueror. ti grants the bearer the chance to become a member of god hand. the other kind lit you summon the god hand to make a pact and become a apostle.
9-you are correct. his physical strength and speed are much higher but that is due to the armor
10-griffith merely does what he must. he is with more women then not so...
11-id say its more like a fantasy world rather than alternate reality. there are too many supernatural elements
12-gutts is 21. the white hair is a result of using the berserker armor
13-that worm hole was created my the people of the world. not of their own free will but it came to be as a result of their pain or something. i dont think it is very clear
14-god hands can be killed. at least according to the skull knight
15-he was the first emperor of midland. i think he was cursed be god for something. i forget what. he collects the eggs but is not created by them
16-zodd just serves griffith because he is more powerful and because he knew what was gonna happen to him and wanted to see it firsthand
17-what is the question?
18-i dont think so. i think they are just kinda tan. never payed much attention


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~shrug~ I'll give it a shot. Been a while since I read it, but I'm up to date at least... bigrazz

1 - what is that beast that always talks to gutts in his mind? does that have to do with the armor he wears, or it doesnt at all?

The Berserk Armor probably manifests itself as that shadowy beast that crops up whenever Gutts is goin nuts on some apostle. Don't recall any in depth conversation, but its been a while... bigrazz

2 - why did casca lose her memory, was it like shock? or was it something related to the weird process in mating with the god version of griffith?

Trauma of being raped by a "God hand" who used to be someone she admired? Gutts and Casca are the only two to survive the sacrifice, and it does leave an indelible mark on both of em.

3 - when berserk introduced magic is a side theme to the story, i found it very ingenius... but like what is this magic and sorcery, so far i know that it has nothing to do with the main plot or the hands of god... is it like a side dish appetizer for readers to enjoy, just like the devil's fruit from one piece?

Early on, magic wasn't that big a thing. We had a little pixie magic for healing, and the behelit which would grant a person's wish if they sacrificed something important to them. Later on, they incorporate some elemental spirits, witch magic, and ESP, but it's entirely well structured.

4 - when i saw griffith revived or turned back to human(?) , i was confused... did he just come back from the different dimension or whatever that place is?

If you recall the baby that was born from Casca that follows her around? It got mortally wounded protecting Casca from an attack from the demonic priest dude. The apostle that used his wish to become an egg combined with the baby, and what emerged was Griffith. God Hand without being limited to the constraints of the behelit summon.

5 - so if you die in the world of berserk, you just get flushed down as part of that stream in that different dimension?

I think it depends. The behelit requires you to sacrifice someone important to you to grant a wish. Those that are sacrificed and often those who use the behelit's power apparently get taken in a bad way. But probably not the case if you die without this caveat.

6 - is it clearly stated or said, what the story of griffith's side is all about? is he simply trying to take over countries, or what?

His dream is to stand on the very top. Pretty clearly stated from the beginning, and a lot more idealized since Griffith was good. It's not until he's shaken by Griffith's departure, his subsequent torture, and dangled the power of an extra special behelit that his dream takes on a more surreal and nightmarish cast. He still aims for the top, but now instead of the band of the hawk, he's got a bunch of demonic supersoldiers.

7 - can anyone just use magic in the world of berserk if you just know how to or something? or do you need some sort of specialness like the world of harry potter or star wars,,,

Consider Farnese. She's a noblewoman who learns some rudimentary witch magic from Schierke. That suggests at least some aspects of this magic is learned rather than innate.

8 - what does using that little egg with face on it do? the 4~5 god hands just show up and give you power confused and what does that actually logically do to youre body? it seems more like some messy surgery to me, becoming more beast like, and just sick (like nasty)

It's the behelit. There's a bunch of lesser behelits laying about, and basically they grant a wish to their owner (it's inferred that there's some amount of fate or a concious will that brings these behelits to their designated person). The person has to sacrifice something of great importance to them to power the wish, and the sacrificed person is branded before being consumed by spirits. Griffith's behelit is special in that it's a hell of a lot more powerful. Griffith's sacrifice of the entire Band of the Hawk allowed him to become a God Hand.

9 - when gutts go berserk mode, what does that actually do? all it seemed was it just made him literally more berserk and suicidal...

When he's in his armor, he gives in to the bloodlust inherent in the cursed armor. It's a double edged sword since the armor doesn't prevent pain, only allows him to ignore its effects. He can also love himself to the bloodlust, and begins to lose many of the sensations and feelings that make him human. The Skull Knight was the previous owner of the Berserker Armor, so that gives you an idea of what eventually happens from prolonged use.

10 - is griffith actually leaned towards homosexual?? im not assuming that just cause he simply slept with a man.... but it seems to me the author is using alot of historic refereces, and griffith seems to be describing alot of those historical figures , like a man described in legends or folktales in which they always have controversies in being homosexual...

Yes. Yes he did. He sleeps with Gennon to get a sizeable war chest to fund his band. You'll also recall he eventually killed Gennon. The basic idea is that Griffith will go to any lengths to achieve his dream, and is absolutely ruthless in the pursuit of it. The only exception was Gutts who was the first person to ever make him stumble, which lead to his emprisonment when he seduced Charlotte.

11 - the story is in a made-up world or an alternate dimension to reality, but what would you say is the race or closest country to describe to gutts, griffith, casca, and the other dark skinned people? cause anime like FMA are confirmed to be more german, considering that the real world version takes place in germany, so im assuming something like the berserk characters are using a huge cultural reference...

Uh. Doesn't matter? There are knights and nobles a la medieval renaissance setting, and a race of dark skinned mystics that have elements like the movie 300's Persian empire, but everything *is* fictional. Make your own call.

12 - how old is gutts? he seems to be growing white hair, but it can just be some side effects from his armor, or battling weird monsters...

The armor does seem to prematurely age him and make him less "human".
http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/world/timeline/timeline.ht ml
has a bit of a timeline. Over 21 is all we can be sure of according to this.

13 - so the world of berserk, is being controled by this being that looks like some wormhole?? like every logic in them?

wut?

14 - so the god hands can be killed? assuming the skull guy (good skull guy) who seems pretty intelligence even infiltrating the different dimension too, attacking the bad skull guy (one of the god hands)..

Probably. Or at least banished from this plane.

15 - the skull guy (the good one), how did he get his powers? magic or that little egg looking thing? though im more convinced towards magic, considering he knew that old women.... was he like some former king or something?

He might've been Emperor Gaiseric who united the continent. And Schierke's mentor was likely one of his companions back in the day.

16 - nosferatu... why is he so obedient towards griffith? does that have anything to do with his left horn getting cut off somehow?

Griffith is a God Hand. Zodd spots the special behelit Griffith has early on and realizes what Griffith is fated to be. Griffith as a God Hand has amazing charisma. Zodd is established early on as the God Hand's right hand man... bigrazz

17 - i cant seem to get the historical mechanics of the setting? i see a mixture of cultures... but i guess its fantasy so random mixes...

don't read too much into it. bigrazz

18 - isnt the berserk franchise being abit too harsh on brown skinned people? i mean they display white ppl beautifully and the brown people like monster-like... the only brown person that seems rather good looking is casca, and thats it, in which shes more allianced to the white race... just curious, im neither so i dont care, but just wondering if it faces racial controversies...

Again, don't read too much into it. The "brown people" who look monster like are usually cause they're the antagonist. You'll note that pretty much anyone who's corrupt, evil, or insane, usually looks like something's off with them. There are exceptions, but it's usually established in some form or another an ugly aspect of most characters.

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Wrong forum.
Moved to Berserk.

Please make threads about certain manga in their specific forums.

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some of my answers to the questions, some may not match that of others though.

1: the beast that we usually see doesn't really have anything to do with the armor. it's more like a subconscious of Gutt's anger. he's lived an unbelievably tough life in which he's been subjected to many traumas. so i believe it came about when he could no longer stand it.

2: Caska is in a state of shock from the level of tragedy that occurred. for one all her comrades were mercilessly slaughtered and sacrificed to their leader, and to add on to that she was raped. it was a lot for one mind to handle, it's not really a surprise her mind kind of broke at that point.

3: the magic side actually does have a spot in the central story line. since the story in whole is focused on building a gigantic world of fantasy, it falls into one of the constructions of that world. but from what i can understand it's the essence of nature itself, in complete opposition to what the God Hand is made of, and that source of darkness we saw when Feemto was being created.

4: which are you referring to? when he became Feemto he basically got reborn from that darkness. but he was limited to being stuck in that dimension where he became a God Hand. as for being able to come to the real world he had used that egg Apostle and the deformed fetus of Gutt's and Caska's child to gain entry into the world.

5: well in regards to the souls of the people of Berserk, i don't think they're all limited to going to the same place. people who get sacrificed to the Behelit end up in some for of eternal suffering of some sorts and part of that stream. but that stream itself is something else. until a greater understanding is revealed about it, i really can't jump to conclusions that it's the ultimate destination of departed souls in Berserk.

6: not really, it just seems he's someone who had some high ambition and wanted be king. a lot of his life is still mystery in itself.

7: i think it's possible for everyone actually. from the explanation made by Schierke, the reason why not a lot of people can use it is cause of the current religion they have. it basically blinds them of the world around them which makes it difficult for special creatures to be seen or acknowledged. it's possible this is related to that darkness stream that created the God Hand and the Behelit.

8: the Behelit grants change to a person with a given sacrifice. but if you read it you should really know it. there are different versions of it though, the crimson one that Griffith had is a special one that allows the creation of the God Hand. so far in Griffith's induction was considered special.

9: Berserk mode is as the name implies he's on a fighting high of just pure fighting instinct, in which he stops discerning friend and foe alike. the Black Armor creates that effect, plus it serves as a pain killer too so his damage isn't always noticed by him either.

10: that's really up to you to decide. cause from what i remember he allowed it to happen with that count, but i don't think he enjoyed it. he was pretty disgusted after the act took place, since he was a young boy at the time too.

11: i don't know never really thought about it or cared to really. it's a heavily fantasy like world i really don't see to many strong references to reality in it all let alone races.

12: he's actually in his early 20's i believe, his hair turned gray i think from the use of the armor. since it takes a heavy toll on his body and has some considerably ill side effects on the user.

13: not really, it's theorized to have come about cause the people wished it to come about. it's part of some form of perception and understanding too. just like how magic and the forces of nature were around too. but once that religion came about it seemed to have grown.

14: Skull Knight seemed to have devised a way for it to happen. since he was able to hurt Slan, but it's not set in stone. once she got hurt i'm pretty sure they started making sure he doesn't get a chance to pull it off.

15: his story was never really revealed, it's all just conjecture and fragments of clues. but mainly how he came about is probably connected to the creation of the first God Hand Void.

16: he bows down to Griffith's power. that's the only reason why he serves him.

17: http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia/world/timeline/timeline.html

18: it's probably your imagination, cause from what i've seen there just as much ugly looking characters with white skin.

for more information you really should check out this site:
http://www.skullknight.net/final.html the encyclopedia can answer your questions better than any of us could actually.

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