there shouldn't be any voting system. the whole rating system in it self right now is a matter of opinion
a standard definition of a what a good group would be needed. i mean SC WAS a good group but what made them good. would need to determine just what exactly?
it's all subjective
there is no exact way. this has been touched on before. top group leaders have discussed this shit how many times... back when SC was still around and other large groups
there are no standards. this is not the scene
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Quote from NeoFireHawk
That's a terrible idea.
To be part of a scanlator group it's a difficult and time-consuming task. They do all that hard work for free, since they are simply people who love manga and want to share their interest with others by scanlating some of their favorite series. What do you think that can happen if you are beginning to rate their effort and comparing the quality of neophyte/minor groups with larger/veteran ones? Don't you think that is a very discouraging thing to do? For example: somebody wants to scanlate his/her favorite series since it's practically unknown in the English speaking world. He/She spends hours working in a single chapter and after all of that the only thing that he/she gains is to be rated badly because somebody think that his/her work doesn't met the standards of MU (Don't you think that is an injust and a very ingrate thing to do?).
To be part of a scanlator group it's a difficult and time-consuming task. They do all that hard work for free, since they are simply people who love manga and want to share their interest with others by scanlating some of their favorite series. What do you think that can happen if you are beginning to rate their effort and comparing the quality of neophyte/minor groups with larger/veteran ones? Don't you think that is a very discouraging thing to do? For example: somebody wants to scanlate his/her favorite series since it's practically unknown in the English speaking world. He/She spends hours working in a single chapter and after all of that the only thing that he/she gains is to be rated badly because somebody think that his/her work doesn't met the standards of MU (Don't you think that is an injust and a very ingrate thing to do?).
Agreed.
Other people might've said a rating system is feasible so that scanlators will know how to improve, but c'mon, can numbers really tell them exactly what to improve on? I think the review idea is better. Gives more way for constructive criticism rather than just numbers that don't really tell anything. Also, it would be totally wrong to pit the smaller scanlator groups with the huge ones with tons of resources. Getting a very low "rating" for a scanlator group would be devastating for some of them...most groups just get their motivation from the simple support and "thank you" from their readers. How would you feel, for example, if you took so much time and effort buying or making a present for your friend, and when you finally give it to her, she tells you that it's not good enough?
As a translator myself, I think people are getting too demanding about something that they're getting for free. If you want the best quality, don't complain about how the group scanlates it, rather, go learn Japanese and buy the actual manga yourself.
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Furthermore if a group or person decides to stop scan;ating because of this well then that's just ridiculous. If they had any dedication (even a tiny bit) they would either try to improve or just continue doing their work. Scanlators don't really do it for praise really.
What will be the point of scanlating if no one wants to read your work? It's not too ridiculous when you think about it. I wonder if you're a scanlator...
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And what about another system like "Recommend by X users" or "Read by X users" ? I think that the meaning behind the rating si to show what group is worth reading. Since it's a bad idea to rate them, what about some stats to show which group are most read ?
I think that choosing a scanlator group is very difficult when you've just pick up a manga that you want to read. There is so many group, there are good group, there are bad group who do it just to become stars, there are fans groups, there are speed scan group who do it with poor scan and poor translation, etc ....
A system to show the popularity of the groups will help the new readers to pick up a good groups.
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I think that choosing a scanlator group is very difficult when you've just pick up a manga that you want to read. There is so many group, there are good group, there are bad group who do it just to become stars, there are fans groups, there are speed scan group who do it with poor scan and poor translation, etc ....
A system to show the popularity of the groups will help the new readers to pick up a good groups.
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How about splitting the ratings to each series they scan (i.e. one rating for Naruto, one rating for Bleach, and one rating for D.Gray-man for a group scanning these three). This way, it compares each group for the series the person is looking at.
How about instead of doing a voting system, we do a yay or nay (sp?) system on different combinations of speed and quality (just speed, just quality, and speed + quality). This is meant to be like Digg.com, which is awesome. This way, a few bad votes doesn't hurt much, and the system is more fair.
How about instead of doing a voting system, we do a yay or nay (sp?) system on different combinations of speed and quality (just speed, just quality, and speed + quality). This is meant to be like Digg.com, which is awesome. This way, a few bad votes doesn't hurt much, and the system is more fair.
7:21 pm, Jun 12 2007
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Thanks guys for your opinions, and I will look over them closely.
But! To keep this topic from ballooning any further, I'm going to lock it.
But! To keep this topic from ballooning any further, I'm going to lock it.
