The will of god is the will of Vatican/whatever is the local highest authority responsible of it.

Is there a god?
I am a Christian so yes i believe there is a God.

What is the will of god?
No one really knows. this will answer your question below too but No one really knows the will of God you can guess all you want but you will most likely be wrong. No one can ever really understand the mechanisms behind His doings but i believe that when my end comes and my new beginning come to be then I will finally come to understand. but while I am on Earth I will never truly know his will.

A lot of people doing things using gods name, are they reason or mearly excuses?
for the most part an excuse. if some one does something politically and says Its wat God wants then they are just hinding behind him and waiting for people to come against them so he or she can say they are against God, which in some Countries (possibly the US) might get you to lose your next election. there are also nut cases who act in violence claiming it was an order from God, thats again either an excuse or the poor persons voice inside his or her head. but when an act of kindness is done and credit is given to God and not themselves then that is truly God's work and not some excuse. the reason i believe that is obvious, if you do something kind most people want the credit for praise but to give all of it to God is truly showing faith.

We believe we have the right to do what ever we want so, do we have the right to blame god when something goes wrong?
Yes you can blame him for all the bad things that have happened if you want. More than likely though you have no one to blame but yourself, as for natural disasters you have to look beyond the horror and see the true outcome of it. always look for the silver lining because that just may be the hidden meaning. but as i said before I cannot truly know His will so I may be completely wrong.

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?
see second answer


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Is there a god?
To an extent I think there is.

What is the will of god?
I don't think anyone knows this.

A lot of people doing things using gods name, are they reason or mearly excuses?
Overall I think they're excuses, especially when God's name is used in conjunction with malicious intent.

We believe we have the right to do what ever we want so, do we have the right to blame god when something goes wrong?
Blame? Perhaps not.
People say it's our own fault when something goes wrong, see I don't think this is entirely true. You have to remember that we don't always know the consequences of our actions. Bad things happen even when you could be acting with good intentions. Why do bad things happen even when you're trying to help? Well bad things happen to everyone. There's always a catch in everyone's lives. I don't think you can blame anyone ultimately. It's just how it works :/

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?
Probably not, but people will continue to do so anyway.

Is there a god?
Maybe. But certainly not as religious people have defined it.

What is the will of god?
If I were to take a foolish guess then it would be to carry on with our lives rather then waste time doing things in its name.

A lot of people doing things using gods name, are they reason or mearly excuses?
Yes, to justify their actions.

We believe we have the right to do what ever we want so, do we have the right to blame god when something goes wrong?
No.

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?
We don't even know if there is one.

Is there a god?
No.

What is the will of god?
N/A

A lot of people doing things using gods name, are they reason or mearly excuses?
Bit of both.
There are a lot of people who cynically use 'God' to serve their agendas. There's also genuinely wonderful people who would be doing great stuff anyway but do it in God's name instead of their own.

But I don't think that's the whole of it - or even most of it. The belief that there is a divine being giving out mandates and commandments and whatnot is a hell of a good reason for doing something.

We believe we have the right to do what ever we want so, do we have the right to blame god when something goes wrong?
Given a belief in an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God - then yes, things going wrong could pretty much be attributed to His will and thus He gets all the blame - a.k.a. the problem of evil.

But really, blaming God for things going wrong is a pretty pointless exercise.

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?
Um - as much right as we have to say anything, I guess. If such a being were real, then no - He would have to talk for himself and anything else would be sacrilege. But given that He does not exist, someone has to guess His will or the whole religion thing wouldn't get off the ground now, would it?

Is there a God?

Yes, I will stop believing in God the moment science is able to explain EVERYTHING that is happening in this universe and when science is able to explain miracles that people themselves have seen.

What is the will of God?

No one knows. We can only guess and thats what the priests, rabiiz and the clerics are doing right now. just guessing and being guided by the "holy books".

A lot of people doing things using god's name, are they reason or merely excuses?

agrred with aikanaro. Its actually a bit of both but nowadays its more widely used in politics. These days political candidates have to belong to the same religion as the majority of the country and they have to say that God is on their side and they are there to carry out God's will. America is a prime example of this kind of crap.

We believe we have the right to do what ever we want so, do we have the right to blame god when something goes wrong?

No we shouldn't. If it was something under our control then how can we blame him when we ourselves could have prevented it. If it was a natural disaster then blame him all you want but its not going to change anything. The disaster has already happened.

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?

I don't think we should



Also I have noticed when people are young they tend to not believe in God and such. I am like in my early twenties and I don't have a great deal of faith but I think that will change as time goes by. As people get older and their time of death is nearing, they will probably believe in God more and the idea of a heaven and something after life. The idea of not existing at all after death scares me and probably will scare other people as they get older. So maybe people who refuse to believe in god will change their minds when their time of death is near. I have seen this happen a lot to people nearing their time of death. In their entire lives they have refused to believe but when they are nearing or close to death they want to grasp some kind of hope that there will something after and it will not be THE END, thus they begin to want to believe in God.

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Is there a god?
Yes

What is the will of god?
To be stewards of this earth. To live our lives to the fullest. Experience as much of the earth he created and ensure it's as beautiful for the furture.

A lot of people doing things using gods name, are they reason or mearly excuses?
Depends on if God is truly working through them or if they want to get away with selfish motives.

We believe we have the right to do what ever we want so, do we have the right to blame god when something goes wrong?
No, if you do not thank God for good fortune you can't blame him for bad. Even if you do thank him for the good stuff you shouldn't blame him for the bad stuff because even if you don't know His reasons you should forgive as He forgives you.

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?
yes, God speaks to us all in different ways but no one has the right to claim their interpretation is the true voice of God.

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Is there a God?
No.

What is the will of God?
It isn't the will of 'God', but the will of people. They rationalize everything however they want, make everything seem holy and justify it this way, while it is in fact very wrong. This brainwashing method has been around since religion started and didn't lose popularity even today.

A lot of people doing things using God's name, are they reason or mearly excuses?
Mainly excuses. Parents raise their children with these beliefs and they become reason for that child, it still remains an excuse nonetheless since it remains false and delusional.

We believe we have the right to do whatever we want so, do we have the right to blame God when something goes wrong?
Blaming people is easy, blaming a supernatural power who should monitor everyone's lives is even easier. It's a habit of religious people to burden themselves in believing and hoping that God will grant them what they want, even though it's all up to mere chance and trying yourself.

Does any one have the right to guess or interpret the will of god?
It's not a question whether they can, but in what way they are allowed to. Just look at the world today. Religion is so twisted and sadistic, and people make it so. These people are ignorant and foolish, because they are either afraid to exclude themselves from faith or they are just dumb.

"To pray is to ask that the laws of the universe be annuled in behalf of a single petitioner, confessedly unworthy."



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Who says nothing is impossible? I've been doing nothing for years.

Wanting to believe in god is not the same as actually believing in it.
Personally, I'm glad there is no god. The fact that existence is finite makes it so much more valuable. If after death you continue to exist, then what point does your life have? The small frame of time you lived is nothing when you continue to exist for eternity.
I don't like the idea of existing in the same place for all eternity, doomed to serve a being simply because it created me. There is no meaning to such an existence.
An existence which ends has much more meaning.

Also, your example of someone on their death bed is somewhat lacking. Most people of the age 50 and above have been raised with the idea of god indoctrinated since early childhood. Maybe at some point they rebelled against this idea, but such indoctrination is very hard to lose.
Likely, the fear of death simply made some old ideas and beliefs resurface.
You must understand, true atheïsm is a relatively new idea. Nietzsche was the first to really phrase it and atheïsm has been steadily increasing since around the 1950's.
Improvements in education and science have stimulated people to think more critically and form their own opinions. People "dare to think" as Kant would proudly observe. (Kant believed in a god btw)

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There are a lot of valuable points you have stated, however, I feel the need to question your first answer. This is where I think it is slightly confusing, at least by my understanding. I am playing the devils advocate and questioning what is it you mean by "screwed up things" an how it relates to 'God'. If you are referring to "screwed up things that go on in the world" as bad things, in this case god is irrelevant, as God has given us the free will to do so; thus giving humans the infinite power to create or destroy under our own agenda, e.g. make peace, build cites, warmongering and murder. These are humanities qualities and how we move on. God in this point is irrelevant to the human disability to find an equilibrium with the world, as humans, as said before have been given right of choice and god has no power over this. So humans naturally pillage and plunder for the greater good or worse. I could go on at the poor choices that humanity has made but I must move on to my other point.

If by "screwed up things", you don't mean any of the above, then perhaps this will clarify it. If by "screwed up things" you mean natural disaster. I fail to see how God how any power over the laws of nature and how things, animals, cites and people die because of it, again God has no power over the laws of nature, no more then if God could let a person live forever on earth. I really don't see how god could be responsible for the wrong doings of man.

If you would prefer it, if god would smited every person who had sinned and by cause and effect taking away our ability of free will; this is the very definition of a dictatorship and "free will" does not exist. This is where I got slightly confused with your first answer. I'm sorry if I went on a bit; if these points are irrelevant to your first answer I apologise for that too, as my reading ability is hampered as I am slightly dyslectic but nevertheless, I read your post thoroughly. If my post is irrelevant, to what you what you have typed, please make it clearer by what you mean by saying "screwed up things that go on in the world" and why God is responsible, good sir.

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Your from the order? I've never seen you before.

It's pretty simple. If there was a rational being that created us, seeing what we do and have done as a rational being, would put an end to it. Allowing the slaughter of millions, the rape and torture of children, and the insane abuse of many is not the process of a rational being. I did not post to change someones mind, I hope you don't expect to change mine. If there really is a god with this F'ked up world the way that it is, I wouldn't worship it.

To me, NO RATIONAL being could allow us to do what we do without getting upset and stopping it flat in it's tracks. There is a sense of morality as you mature as a person (and at the highest level, you would put aside a promise not to get involved with freedom of choice when you see your creations doing what we do to each other on a daily basis).

I see. Very good, but again, I was merely playing the devils advocate.

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Your from the order? I've never seen you before.

I am also a Christian, but I don't think gods exist. I pray, read the bible, and attend and participate in church, mind you, and I still think like this. I believe that God symbolizes hope for people, some spiritual or psychological concept that people believe so that they can feel safe or happy.

But I'm not out there to ridicule people for finding a way for being happy and staying sane. I'd rather believe that someone imaginary will always "be there" for me and is giving me a good future rather than feel rejected and alone. But I do condemn those super religious people that get butthurt when other people don't think the way that they do.

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Oh ok didn't really know about atheism being so new and didn't even consider indoctrination. Just that I have seen that kind of situation so many times( since i work at hospital) so I made that statement. Aha what point does your life have? I could say many things but they would seem pretty BS to you like our life in this world is like a trial that we have to go through in order to reach "heaven". If we are good people, if we can care for others and live respectably then we pass this trial that God has set for us and we can reach heaven where there is no suffering and everyone is equal. Or it could be enlightenment, or if we have enough good karma in this life we will again be reincarnated into man..spiritual stuff you know. I actually don't really believe that much in that kind of stuff but hey you asked for reasons so well.....i can only give you spiritual reasons. Also what about the poor people, abused people basically people suffering out there? The idea of a heaven gives these kinds of people hope. They live out their lives suffering so much in the hope that after their death they will find happiness, that they will be rewarded for suffering, and that is where the concept of heaven comes in. Because not everyone will be satisfied with the lives they have had. I am certainly satisfied, you may be satisfied but not necessarily everyone will be satisfied with the kind of life that they have had and death will be a pathway for these people into happiness. Its like a concept that allows these people to keep on living you know. Not everyone can embrace death as easily as you can, I applaud you for being so strong but some people aren't that strong. You are right about it though a finite existence have much more meaning than an infinite existence but given the choice i don't think everyone would choose a finite existence. The idea of immortality and being able to exist forever appeals to a lot of people at first.


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i think religion is just a support group really. people sort of need it to go on. like dasukidesuyo said. its hope for some people. but i dont agree with religion. esp the ones who say you'll go to hell if you dont go to church lol. who wants to believe in a god that will sentence you to eternal suffering? doesnt that sound more like the devil? i dont want to believe in that kind of god. I would like to believe in a higher power that loves everyone. from rapists to school teachers to widows. everyone. no exceptions. One that doesnt hold grudges or stop loving you because you made a mistake.
I would willingly believe in that kind of god IF he existed.
The will of god?
I think its for everyone on earth to learn something. i think we're all here to learn some lesson. an just plain live.
that being said i dont think theres a point to debating whether god is real or exists or whatever. no one will ever truly know. so why argue? we could all be completely wrong. watch humans have evolved from like cyanobacteria an thousands of years in the future people are going to look back and see what fucktards people use to be. killing each other over a belief in something fictional.


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