Actually the little of record of Trump isn't good, he was just a populist in retoric but he was also for the war before it looked bad and benifit of trade deals, his proposed tax plan was almost giving money to the rich. Save or not save state I would have voted for Jill, as Trump will be a Republican puppet and will go to war as much as Clinton that despite on how horrible the other candidate is I will not vote for a person that will throw the country to another unnecessary war. (Which considering the enviroment the "doing almost nothing" of Clinton would be the lesser of two evil compared the "dismantle the EPA and FDA")

the left in USA is a little to the right, a good part of the conservatist wants cristian sharia law

Personally, as am not American, it shouldn't concern me anymore than anyone else in the world. I choose don't care.
I wanted Trump to win actually. In contrast to Hillary, he is way much better as I see it.
When you're choosing from options which are both bad, you weight the by the type of bad they are. IMO Trump is the Openly Bad type, while his counterpart was Corrupted bad type.

With Trump you can at least swear at him while standing in front of his house and you may get some supporters too while at it. Well fellas you got the thingy called Liberty now. Heave-ho ~!


[p.s. Words above merely thought only. Not to be taken seriously. Not a political guy, which is too bothersome. I merely read/watch political news/info/history for momentary entertainment only. I can/and do contribute my fair share to the society and humanity without getting involved in politics.] ^^

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I'm going to assume that you're exaggerating with the 'nuclear wasteland' bit since Putin is a smart guy and, even in the unlikely event that tensions did escalate that much, understands the concept of nuclear deterrence. What do you think the U.S. should do to improve relations with Russia? Break with its allies in removing sanctions for Russia's annexation of Ukraine? Support Russia in its ridiculous abuse of its Security Council veto re: a no-fly zone in Syria, so that more hospitals and civilians can be bombed? Russia is viewed as an antagonistic country because that's how it behaves.

So Trump is not racist or sexist by your definitions? Do you believe the KKK are 'SJWs'? Because they sure seem to think he's a bigot.

Your last point. Sure, I guess this is true - A politically savvy politician is generally more dangerous to an individual's interests if that individual doesn't want any of the politician's policies to be implemented. The incompetent fool is dangerous insofar as he can't be trusted to understand what is feasible, supported by fact or in the common good, or to engage in diplomacy.

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Yep your post pretty much sums you up prefectly. The backburner?!?! Are you serious? Yea we are done here.

Nuclear deterrence only works if both sides are deterred. If one side is determined to go to war, and the other side has no hope of winning that war without the use of nuclear weapons... well, at that point, that side desperately needs them to serve as a deterrent and the only way they can is if they're actually used, at least once. I'm not saying it would have come to that if Hillary had won, just that it seems a more likely possibility with her as Commander in Chief than with Trump.



If it were up to me? I'd pitch a treaty to Putin in which both countries would agree to suspend economic sanctions and cooperate militarily to fight the global terrorism threat. The treaty would mandate that if either country wanted to engage in aggressive military action with another country, they would need to consult with the other and present their reasons why they deemed it necessary and seek approval from the other. Failure to do so would be considered a breach of the treaty, at which point the economic sanctions would resume. The details of the treaty would include specific military obligations, as recommended by the military experts, including for example, that Russia would cooperate to help implement the no fly zone.



I don't really have an opinion about this one way or the other. I've just seen so many cases of people being called racist or sexist on the flimsiest of bases, while simultaneously expressing extremely racist and/or sexist attitudes (e.g. "all while people are racists", "all men are misogynists", etc.) that my default reaction to any accusation of racism or sexism has become to immediately disregard it unless clear and convincing evidence is presented along with the accusation.



No, and I don't consider the KKK to still have enough relevance to closely examine their reasons for supporting a candidate. But, I will point out that the KKK supporting a candidate does not necessarily imply that the KKK believe the candidate is a bigot, and even if they do believe that, it doesn't mean they're right.

Maybe the back burner as in the food still heating on the stove top that people at the suburban dinner party ignored or forgot, and Trump's election was the fire alarm that alerted all the white people chilling outside in the swimming pool that the house was, indeed, on fire, and everyone else had already cleared out after their repeated alerts fell on waterlogged ears. Oh, and the KKK, Breitbart, and Fox News are there too, fanning the flames.

Lol right? I chuckled a bit at your detailed and insightful description, especially when something like that of all things from my previous post was picked out to be nitpicked about

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Let's get real here.

Like it or not, Trump won the election, and isn't going anywhere except the White House in the foreseeable future. He wasn't voted in by just rich, white people. But by the quiet ppl in the parts of America hoping for some kind of change. Look at the break down of the votes in each state by county and see what parts went red or blue. Blue dominated the cities, but red surrounded the blue. Giving the states to red overall. Out of curiosity, I'd like to see how income and education compares to that map.

But you can't just say "dumb rednecks" voted Trump in. Every citizen gets only one vote. Rich or poor. Regardless of IQ. YOU ONLY GET ONE VOTE. So blame it on the electoral college if you have to.

Violent protests just make the protestors, and their causes, look bad. Saying "Dump Trump", and trashing buildings won't change things. The quiet protests are the ones that should count, voicing their dissatisfaction and preparing for the next elections. Sadly, the media doesn't always cover those.

I don't think there will be any quick changes to the country, There are just too many checks and balances built into the system. Nothing happens quickly in Congess. And already Trump is toning down his rhetoric, agreeing that some parts of Obamacare should stay, etc, and generally speaking more quietly than ever before.

So, I agree with the person who said, "Just chill." And wait to see what happens next.

these polls are great to see who has secretly been a horrible person all along (the trump normalisers)

*ding ding ding*

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I nitpicked it because it showed how blind you really are. And plus something else triggered me and I didn't have time to write what I really wanted. I didn't feel like bothering with arguing about politics anymore. The rest of the nonsense you wrote was well nonsense because I was still focused on that first paragraph.

Do you really think those people needed validation? Muslim females get harassed almost everyday for wearing their hijab in public but I never see that being reported to the news. Does anyone remember the Muslim boy who got the cops called on him because of a science project? Oh black people being followed around and kicked out of stores still happens. Stupid white boys writing racial slurs on bathroom stalls has always been a thing, so I don't know why people think that's new. Oh did you know black boys are still getting lynched? Just because you are seeing certain things on the news more now means that it escalated? LOL.

Now I'm even happier that Trump won. More people will come together because the racism "escalated" and has been put on the back-burner for to long. If Clinton would have won, everyone would have remained the same with people being blind and only get upset when stuff like "BLM" happens. I'm not even going to get started on how I feel about that. Oh and never mind about that Muslim girl being raped and killed with her hijab still in place. We will just leave that for local news.

I'm actually done here. Been neglecting some manga I've been wanting to catch up on. Still don't really care who won. As both choices were awful. I do regret not voting third party now, so thanks for that.

Don't really see why this was a poll, have enough shit-flinging elsewhere as it is, but here we are. Should have broken up "don't care" into two categories I think, kind of like the two choices above, to say whether or not you lived in the US. I chose it, but right now, it all blends together.

Voted third party, didn't like either of them, but at the same time, don't think either would make a terrible president, though Clinton would have been more presidential, better prepared. They both just had too many things I disagreed with. Life goes on though, in my opinion, the amount of angst and overreactions people are having is just kind of over the top. Interesting to see how he handles things, if at least we have different foreign policy, quit trying to impose regime changes in the middle east and let them do what they want, would be an improvement.

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To the right of what? Bolshevism? What kind of newspeak is "cristian sharia"...