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17-sai, Kiss to Dilemma  
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Description
From Chibi Manga:

At 17-year-old, I didn't know anything about life or love. And I didn't see my cousin as a "man"...
I dont want to know anything, but love changed everything...

Type
Manga

Related Series
N/A

Associated Names
17岁亲吻和进退两难
17歳、キスとジレンマ
Juunanasai, Kiss to Dilemma

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Latest Release(s)
v.4 c.Extra 3 (end) by Chibi Manga 5 months ago
v.4 c.20 by Chibi Manga 6 months ago
v.4 c.Extra 2 by Chibi Manga 7 months ago
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Status in Country of Origin
4 Volumes (Complete)

Completely Scanlated?
Yes

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User Rating
Average: 6.9 / 10.0 (138 votes)
Bayesian Average: 6.85 / 10.0
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Last Updated
March 11th 2018, 3:11pm PST


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Year
2013

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Serialized In (magazine)
Sho-Comi (Shogakukan)

Licensed (in English)
No

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N/A

Activity Stats (vs. other series)
Weekly Pos #597 increased(+34)
Monthly Pos #872 increased(+232)
3 Month Pos #1397 increased(+90)
6 Month Pos #1503 decreased(-410)
Year Pos #1202 decreased(-28)

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On 861 reading lists
On 322 wish lists
On 193 completed lists
On 49 unfinished lists
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why is not sexual harassing in the tags?   
Rating: N/A
by azariie
May 2nd, 2018, 10:35pm
Believe it or not, the mild incest everyone is ranting about is actually the less creepy part of the story (and hey, if their families and classmates aren't bothered by it, why should we care...?).

Things start going downhill about ten pages in when we find out the "weak, good for nothing" main male character has actually been manipulating the hell out of his cousin since they were kids in order to isolate her from other guys. Not only that, but
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he has been sexually harassing Ririka in her sleep for f*ck knows how many years
and, now that the cat's out the bag, so to speak (for us at least; our heroine remains blissfully unaware of most of it for the remainder of the story), he's determined to not only let her know how HE feels but also get her to agree the obsession is mutual.

I've honestly lost count of how many times he forced on her if "only" to steal a kiss but, damn, why in the nine circles of shoujo hell do we keep getting asked to root for this lying liar who lies when there's a perfectly fine dude over there who actually gives a damn about consent (the bar is not that high, guys...) and seems like someone from whom Ririka would actually benefit from a relationship with? It's torture! For a second there, I actually entertained the idea the author was about to pull a
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Paradise Kiss
on us but, alas, no such luck.

The actual final chapter reads like a friggin' horror story
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what with the main guy asking for a MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE for his birthday; she agreeing and deciding to add her virginity on top... thus starting a diet to look perfect for him and attracting the attention of other guys. Her cousin reaction? TO BLAME HER FOR "SEDUCING" THEIR CLASSMATES, TYING HER UP TO THE INFIRMARY BED AND GOING FOR THE RAPE- till Ririka reveals she did it all for him and was preparing for their special birthday celebration/Valentine's Day together that night. Eek!


YOU IN DANGER, GIRL

... Last updated on May 10th, 2018, 1:18am
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Urghhh....   
Rating: 1.0 / 10.0
by princess_bubblegum
January 29th, 2018, 8:45am
Cliche, cliche, cliche.....
If you only want to read:
Your typical male lead who is handsome, smart and great in sport
And your usual ditzy and dense in love and easily misunderstands female lead...
Then go right ahead....

The plot is not unique and there are many crappy and annoying rivals and side characters...
I only feel frustration when reading this...
So I decided to drop this manga midway...
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Dropped   
Rating: N/A
by yenda
March 21st, 2016, 3:42pm
Just wasn't worth the time and effort I spent trying to like it (at the beginning I thought her cousin was adopted and blood related since this was not categorized as incest).
The incest was just too strange/borderline creepy. For those who don't know and start screaming, "This is not incest", at me; well, in most North/Central/South American countries, marriage and relations with cousins is illegal and considered incest.
So I bid goodbye to another waste of my time.
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Beautiful art but not loving the story...   
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by herrokerushii
March 16th, 2015, 11:24pm
I hate when the guy is so pushy. I get that he really likes riri-chan, but he has no control over his feelings! When she says stop, stop! It was like he was just forcing himself onto her and because of that (and other circumstances that forced them to be together), she developed feelings for him. Thats too forced!!!! I didn't like that at all. I love the art tho.
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Cliche alright, but because of the Bishies!!   
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by .Chi-chan
December 20th, 2014, 8:46pm
This is your typical shoujo cliche trope, like most of the shoujo genre. But this one.. You won't mind it because og the oh-so gorgeous smexy bishounens! And the hot scene, my gash~
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Dem Delicious Crocodile Tears   
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by SilverStorm
June 26th, 2014, 7:51pm
He seems like a cute weak boy, but that's mostly a facade to get the girl. Damn, I like.

The plot itself (and heroine) is kind of cliched and nothing terribly original, but this kind of male love interest is quite rare, so I like it. There's also this crazy sexual tension coming off of the guy. (He wants her sooo bad, lol)

I don't think he's faking everything, but it's probably that he plays up his weakness. If you've ever read Yoru Made Matenai., you've got an idea of what I'm talking about, but less cocky. I actually agree that he's a bit "creepy" and oh-so possessive, but nothing too far off the shoujo spectrum.

... Last updated on June 26th, 2014, 7:53pm
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Adorable :3   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by HummingBird0o
April 1st, 2014, 9:36am
idk how the male lead is creepy ?or when did he try to control her life ? he never stopped her from doing what she want -_- and he really love Ren chan that's why he try to be close to her ....plus his samrt cute and hot too <3 just perfect bigrazz
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Dropped   
Rating: 2.0 / 10.0
by Asani
March 7th, 2014, 4:42am
So creepy! What the hell. Kissing her in her sleep when she is defenseless ans kissing her when she clearly says no. He is manipulating her with this (creepy) "I am a puppy" eyes and when she left her guard down he is forcing his feeling onto her. But hey: Everything is alright after that if I am the whiny cousin you used to know after that, right?
Anyways all the situations are way too forced and the male-lead is creepy and forcing. I am dropping this one.
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Hot Hot HOTTTT! OK Story, characters seem refreshingly different than usual trope   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by ishitagupta
January 14th, 2014, 9:57am
The hero seems to have some sort of strategy going on, and it's not the usual tackle-her-down-and-have-my-way-with-her-until-her-brain-juices-tell-her-she-wants-me, although there's a wee bit of that too. But he seems to be aware that he cannot afford to be impatient in wooing her and he is doing so very subliminally... it makes for very delishious reading smile

Edit after reading chapter 5: Oh my freakin' god, could this boy get any sexier!!! It seems like he always knows what to do in any situation to turn it in his favour! Argh, I want more! And I want it all slowly deliciously drawn out to torture poor Riri chan!

PS I really like how Yagami Rina characterises her heroines. They're not cold or standoffish, just not super familiar with physical intimacy or wanting to jump the gun on romance with someone they're familiar with. I also like how in almost every story the boy has to work his way to creating that desire in the heroine! Makes for very cute moments!

PPS I will admit this boy doesn't know how to keep it in his pants the few times he does get carried away. He needs to learn that "No" means no, not "Take me now sailor" or "More tongue please"!

... Last updated on September 19th, 2014, 3:49am
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Huh...I don't know...   
Rating: 7.0 / 10.0
by smily_lois
December 15th, 2013, 5:49am
Sometimes, I'd imagine the whole story with the main guy switched for some plain-looking dude...and I think it's quite creepy? Heck, even with the current male lead, I still find it quite disturbing. I'm reading the story of a weird guy obsessed with his cousin - trying to control her life to an extent (ie, not letting her go to a goukon).

If this were a melodrama, someone would say he's actually making fun of the girl being oblivious to the fact that he is in fact a lot more reliable.

Yeah, maybe I'm looking into it way too much, but STILL, every time I read it there's this lingering feeling of uneasiness for the heroine. Despite my earlier statement, I actually hadn't pinpointed the exact reason yet. The available english scans are up until chapter 4 so I wouldn't know the whole story, so let's see what happens.

It has some cute moments, cliche...but certainly cute - just like any typical shoujo romance. The art's actually quite good, even with the disturbingly huge girl eyes and 1mm skirts, it's quite excellent for my taste.
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