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Post #793844 - Reply to (#793831) by Peep
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1:27 pm, Nov 25 2021
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@Peep
Ah, you were that guy!
Damn, I need some kind of reminder, that tells me which people I've concluded that it is pointless/detrimental to listen/talk to… That way I'd have avoided making a reply to one of your comments. (also wouldn't have bothered reading it, in the first place)
It'd be nice if there was a feature in the forum, that did it for you.

Post #793860 - Reply to (#793843) by zarlan
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1:42 pm, Nov 26 2021
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To put it lightly, you're a joke. Not a funny one either.

Anybody looking for an honest debate would assume the strongest possible version of what the other person is saying and respond accordingly, you did that exactly zero times instead electing to assume the weakest possible version and misconstrue what I said endlessly while attacking me personally until I give up bothering. That attitude is never going to win friends or influence people, nobody agrees with you and we all find you to frankly be a fool.

It's weird, from the start I'd thought something was wrong, but after reading more of your posts I realise that you talk about the human race as if they're something you read about in a book once. It's bizarre. You have deep and severe psychological problems, and desperately need to seek out a psychiatrist.

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Post #793871 - Reply to (#793746) by Jooles
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9:18 am, Nov 27 2021
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100% depends on what 'rule the world' means.
do I have complete uncontested authority?
will they follow my policy regardless of its results?
will other interests decided it's a good time to take me out, as this says "instantaneously, at no death or personal cost" but has no stipulation to post enthronement?

lets assume that humans would follow me, and I could nosedive this bitch straight into the ground and they would be following right behind.

1) Institute a universal language.
1a) All works would be mandated to be translated to the universal language either through dubbing or subtitling along with a repository for words and the significance of them if no clean translation is possible, see one piece nakama not having a clean translation to english and an example.

This rule would give all of humanity a common ground.

2) some level of cultural protections

there are aspects of culture that create what we love about an area that only come from them because of the culture, so while I would love to remove malignant cultures from the world, see some of the us army stories about working with afghan people, and the people they had to turn a blind eye too because it was 'their culutre', there are also aspects of culture that were necessary for the entertainment we enjoy to even exist.

3) get a group of people together to devise new laws and strip all current laws

in america we have laws that are contradictory, that depending on how interpreted could have many loopholes, see america's politicians taking bribe money and the revolving door that makes is so easy to see who takes money from who, but because they weren't given a sack of cash and told 'do X and you get $' its not legally a bribe. there are SO many laws that are in place that you can dance around, and the major argument for not doing anything is 'well business will leave' but if i'm the sole ruler, where the hell will they go to? so over the course of 1-5 years we will get a baseline set of laws needed for civil society, written in plain english so anyone with a 8th grade + reading comprehension will know what the law states and means, so there is no dancing around legal definitions that need to constantly be interpreted.

3a) fineing of any corporation or business that flagrantly tries to weasel in between the lines will be several years worth of companies gross profit, not net, this would effectively kill all but the biggest companies.
3b) individuals will be looked at on a per case basis, with legal observers for the law to make sure it was clear enough and in case its not clear, a rewording along with potential nulling of the crime due to it being unclear.

this should cover most of the injustice in the world, there will be rot no matter what, but it would completely remove legal ambiguity and loopholes, with a system that finds and closes them

4) dealing with the waste food of the west

I dont think its a big secret that world hunger is a logistics problem and not a 'we cant feed them all' problem, in fact the last estimate I remember was world hunger is solved with 27 billion dollars a year. with me as a ruler, countries can't outright refuse food because a environmentalist told them its poisoned, yes this has happened.

5) en masse funding for solving sustainability issues.

see the lithium battery issue, we don't have enough lithium on earth to make everything electric powered. we still need fossil fuels, we still need, coal power, but the funding of research to get passed that is 100% required, and pussyfooting around the issue with small sums of money isn't an option. figuring out how to get more power out of solar then we put in to produce a panel is necessary, as an example.

I believe that if these issues are solved/worked on/implemented, and the world slowly shifted over to the new systems, it would largely be seen as a positive by most people, because let's be real, when the king dies and a new king is in charge how does that affect the common person? it largely doesn't. but putting out positive change in every area would get common people very reluctant to change for the wrose.

let's be real with this, I can't be worse then what's already in charge, and ruler of the world doesn't have the looming threat of nuclear holocaust for the next war we are screaming head first tward.

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Post #793872 - Reply to (#793871) by alidan
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10:16 am, Nov 27 2021
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see the lithium battery issue, we don't have enough lithium on earth to make everything electric powered


You do not have to use lithium for batteries.
https://www.power-technology.com/features/lithium-battery -alternatives/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S24 05829715301148
It just happens to be pretty optimal for the size/weight and the charge capacity. You might get similar results from other metals though.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/20180 1/why-is-lithium-good-both-batteries-and-bipolar-disorder
Interestingly, there is a CCP controlled Tibetan water that has lithium in it, I do not know if it is naturally like that or they add it to the water to placate/calm people in China.

Post #793900 - Reply to (#793871) by alidan
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9:39 am, Nov 28 2021
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100% depends on what 'rule the world' means.
do I have complete uncontested authority?

I'd generally assume that I have a force that forces governments to obey me. Or that they will obey me, by some other means. (like having something like the geass in Code Geass, or the slavery magic you so often see in isekai, on all the leaders [including military], or something)
Any less would just mean that you get put down real quick, which makes the whole question completely useless.
"Would you choose to, technically, be the ruler of the world, for a few seconds before you're taken out?" isn't really an interesting question, after all.
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1) Institute a universal language.

That sounds like a great idea, superficially, but…
That would mean eliminating diversity, eliminating diverse viewpoints and ways of thinking, eliminating culture…
I take it, that you are monolingual? (possibly having a limited understanding of one or two Second Languages)
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1a) All works would be mandated to be translated

…including all scientific works. (scientific papers and the like)
Though I obviously disagree with the "…to the universal language"-bit.
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see one piece nakama not having a clean translation to english and an example.

Nakama has no perfect translation, but it is absolutely not a word that is difficult or problematic to translate, as the groups who keep it untranslated like to claim. (I'm not someone who thinks that everything should always be translated, mind. I'm generally against removing honorifics e.g.)
There are some words and phrases that are difficult, or arguably impossible, to translate
…but nakama sure isn't one of them.
(also wordplay is difficult, often impossible, to translate …and there are two schools of thought, in regards to translation of poetry: Some say it's extremely difficult. Other say it's impossible)
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so while I would love to remove malignant cultures from the world

I don't think that there are any cultures that are completely malignant, as a whole. Rather some cultures have certain cultural aspects/part, which are malignant.
Aspects that should be removed, and not defended with the excuse of "it's culture".
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3) get a group of people together to devise new laws and strip all current laws

Mm, that's one of the steps I'd also implement.
I'd first put some basic laws, that all countries must follow (some that just simply get implemented right away, in the way I say they do, some that they get t implement themselves), above their current laws, as a first step
…before I have multiple teams of scientists and law experts, work on creating new laws, to replace the old ones. Competely throwing out the old ones.
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and the major argument for not doing anything is 'well business will leave'

Which is wrong for two reasons:
1. No they won't. (well, they might "move their headquarters", but… There are ways to get around tha kind of BS, if you don't mind upsetting the rich and powerful. And as a ruler of the world, there is no reason to)
2. Even if some of them do, it would still be worth it. (of course, if you do it in every country, they have nowhere to run)
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3a)

Absolutely! And when they make profits illegally, they shouldn't just get fines. They should get all profits (company profits as well as employee/CEO bonuses… everything!) confiscated.
If you rob a bank, you don't get to keep the money you stole …so why should companies get to?
The people responsible should get proper punishments…
And if a company is "too big to fail", then you let the people responsible fail, and have the government (temporarily) take over the company.
I could go on. (if I had someone ghostwrite for me, I could [and gladly would] probably create quite a tome, on politics …and another on ethics)
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but it would completely remove legal ambiguity and loopholes, with a system that finds and closes them

Nothing can completely remove any ambiguity or loopholes …which is why you need a system, that seeks out and fixes any ambiguity or loopholes. (in Japan, however, they tend to just go with the letter of the law, and ignoring its spirit, and typically let loophole abuse become routine behaviour…)
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4) dealing with the waste food of the west

Oh it's far from only "the West", where you have food waste. It's everywhere.
A lot of it is due to logistics. There is enough food to feed everyone. Just not in the right place, at the right time …but yes, there is also the kind of food waste that you are thinking of, as well, which is also a big problem.
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5) en masse funding for solving sustainability issues.

Of course!
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see the lithium battery issue, we don't have enough lithium on earth to make everything electric powered.

There is more than you think, and lithium is recyclable, and there is plenty of research into non-lithium batteries, but…
With current technology and resources, the Earth can be 100% powered by renewables. As plenty of experts have pointed out.
The only real obstacles, are the politicians, and how beholden they are to the rich/big companies.
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figuring out how to get more power out of solar then we put in to produce a panel is necessary, as an example.

The notion that it takes more energy to create a solar panel, than the panel produces, is clearly false.
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let's be real with this, I can't be worse then what's already in charge

As a misanthrope, I don't quite trust you to be the ruler of the World, even though I agree with most of your comment
…though I am inclined to think that, short-term, you'd be a hell of a lot better than the people currently in charge, given how I'm also convinced that those in power, are just a step above the worst (the worst are usually too terrible to manage to get into power), but long-term… I dunno.

Me ruling the World, however… (and, as I've said, I'd set things up, and seek to get things self-sustaining, so that I can leave the job, and simply let the countries of the World continue on as proper democracies. [the current "democracies", are far from representative, and hardly have informed voters] As well as having teams dedicated to reducing/eliminating/reversing any corrupting influence the power would have on me)

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