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@BoxBox
You went some wrong way.
Hm. If there's a man liking another man who dresses/behaves like woman that doesn't mean he still likes women (and went gay on purpose or smth). That basically means he likes guys with gender issues. Same for women. No matter what she is still a woman.
Right?
Anyway, it isn't always 'that one is a seme and the other is an uke'.

I second that open minded thing though.

no...I think I hit the point. It's exactly it, it doesn't matter if it is a man or a woman. All it matters is what the partner perceives him/her to be. And I further extend my argument that this sort of strange structural arrangement of marriage is what causes the seemingly confusing feminine/masculine type relationship.

Besides, on controversial issues like these....why would there be a right answer? It be quite arrogant to assume you have the right answer when it depends on your values and belief system. If you are a Christian fundamentalist, the idea of homosexuality is 100% wrong with no justification. If you are an atheist who believes in free love and equal rights to all, you might accept homosexuality as part of human society.

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

I have no idea why but I think gay guys are uncomfortable with me while I think I am better with lesbian women...I suppose I look quite opinionated whereas I really am not all...

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you know what im ok with it...if two guys are ok kissing and shit stabing eachother heck why the hell not?
so long as it does not envolve me, get near me, change my life, i am A ok with it!
ignorence is bliss.

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you know what im ok with it...if two guys are ok kissing and shit stabing eachother heck why the hell not?
so long as it does not envolve me, get near me, change my life, i am A ok with it!
ignorence is bliss.

So your attitude is more of a "i'll tolerate those Fa**ots but I'll never accept them. If I catch one of them on my lawn, I will use my shot gun!" lol 😀

It's about acceptance, not just tolerance. A very good point South Park made. 😲 Yeah, South Park taught you something. We must be open to many things before we become close minded.

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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

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you know what im ok with it...if two guys are ok kissing and shit stabing eachother heck why the hell not?
so long as it does not envolve me, get near me, change my life, i am A ok with it!
ignorence is bliss.

So your attitude is more of a "i'll tolerate those Fa**ots but I'll never accept them. If I catch one of them on my lawn, I will use my shot gun!" lol 😀

It's about acceptance, not just tolerance. A very good point South Park made. 😲 Yeah, South Park taught you something. We must be open to many things before we become close minded.

hey all im saying is that it doesn't need me to understand it but i can accept the fact that people are alowed to do as they please. I agree with people doing as they please so long as it doesn't effect ones life like murder or anything unecesary, there is no need to make people understand their feelings its about free will, it is quite litteraly imposible to make everyone see the same way, but u can definatly make them acept that they exist and have the right to do so.

I'm not from allubema man, although i would like to say i understand these people...realy i don't, loving is not bound by gender, species , object or whatever...but if you love you dog and get up and down with it i would like to be left out of it and the person who does...>you get my meaning yea?

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but you just said as long as they aren't around you, you are fine.....that's not accepting, that's just tolerating....barely. 🤢

You are trapped in a false dichotomy. I am not saying you have to have sexual relations with them in order to accept them, I am saying that you have to be at least be as comfortable with two gay couples making out in front of you as you do with normal male-female couples. Treat them equally, that's all I'm saying. 🙁 You need more years in you.

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

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so you guys like this kind of thing?
🤣
I have to admit, Sweet transvestite was a good song. IT's catchy and it's radical!

OMG! I usually wouldn't admit it, but damn he is sexy. I LOVE ROCKY!

Personally though I think people should like who they want. I'm naturally sexually attracted to men... but I have been extremely attracted to certain women who were... feminine... but I was attracted to them because of their personality.

I had the biggest crush on this one girl. Good lord. But if I did get with her I wouldn't say it was a lesbian relationship because I would be with her wither she was a boy or a girl.

Its called pansexuality. I'll admit I'm not completely pansexual (I really love men) and I am not bisexual... but I'm not going to rule someone out in the future just because of their gender.

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but you just said as long as they aren't around you, you are fine.....that's not accepting, that's just tolerating....barely. 🤢

You are trapped in a false dichotomy. I am not saying you have to have sexual relations with them in order to accept them, I am saying that you have to be at least be as comfortable with two gay couples making out in front of you as you do with normal male-female couples. Treat them equally, that's all I'm saying. 🙁 You need more years in you.

OH DEAR do i have to explain,

look if two gay people are making out infront of me i simply look the other way.

here is my point. gay people where not born gay everyman is not born " straight or by or anything",
the reason why they are gay is because of the way they think and their SEXual preference ok?
every man is a plain canvas to begin with.

being gay is caused by the ACT they make, this is not a default thing that they cannot help it is a preference.
i would like to give examples:
Bondage is a sexual preference some people have and cannot have otherwise with their partner, yes some might say..."hey thats pretty sick to hit you partener till she's bloody, that is sick and i cannot understand it" <---this 100% FAIR judgement, why? partly because of the fact its opinionated.
a beter example? There are people with SEXUAL preferences such as only wanting women between the ages of 60 and above, no im not making it up, for me this is pretty sick? not because they love eachother, no love has nothing to do with it ok? its the sexual preference part. the fact that this man sleep with a 70 year old is pretty horific, but he can and why not? However to me its sick. It will always be in the back of my head when i talk to this guy if i know he does so, i don't intend to be friends or associate myself with him ether.

The fact that other men make Trains and so forth to me is sick tbh, i will accept it but i wont understand it and can never be truly their friend or want them to have any part to do with me because i think that their acts are sick. its a basic consept. Love this love that...its got nothing to do with sexual preference not every gay guy loves the next gay person.

you are free to love what ever it is you want to i can UNDERSTAND that, but like i said, what is sickening are the trains created by them. AND this is a** fair opinionated judgement**. Remember judgement is based on their preference> not because of the their LOVE interest, remember we can make judgement based on someone preference, we can do it for other things why not here?its not realy nice but my point is that its valid because they are not born that way> its just aphsycological mind phrame, this can be looked at viewed and opinionated by people, geting ofended because someone thinks its sick is not the way to go about it...

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Let me just say one thing. You are so deep in prejudice that you cannot see your own.
BTW, Bondage is a fetish, not an orientation. You do not understand the true meaning of being gay. Most homosexuals say they are born this way and it was not a choice. Even if it was a choice, it would not be an act of perversion like you said[since you grouped it with bondage], it would be a free choice or maybe even a sudden realization of a different aspect of life. Homosexuality was a COMMON practice in the ancient world like Rome and Greece. It is common for younger man to find an mentor like another older man. Often they go into non-platonic relations.

Let me also state that to accept homosexuality as a legitimate orientation, you must not treat it like a fetish[you listed bondage] or a perversive act. It is an orientation, like being straight. The moment you accept that, the moment you will accept, truly accept homosexuality. So that when two couples kiss, it wouldn't matter to you if it was gay or straight. they fact that you are disturbed by gay couples kissing and not straight couple kissing is more than enough indication of your prejudice. It is very sad, I thought a manga forum is usually more open to this topic than some old souther baptist town..... 😢

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

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Let me just say one thing. You are so deep in prejudice that you cannot see your own.
BTW, Bondage is a fetish, not an orientation. You do not understand the true meaning of being gay. Most homosexuals say they are born this way and it was not a choice. Even if it was a choice, it would not be an act of perversion like you said[since you grouped it with bondage], it would be a free choice or maybe even a sudden realization of a different aspect of life. Homosexuality was a COMMON practice in the ancient world like Rome and Greece. It is common for younger man to find an mentor like another older man. Often they go into non-platonic relations.

Let me also state that to accept homosexuality as a legitimate orientation, you must not treat it like a fetish[you listed bondage] or a perversive act. It is an orientation, like being straight. The moment you accept that, the moment you will accept, truly accept homosexuality. So that when two couples kiss, it wouldn't matter to you if it was gay or straight. they fact that you are disturbed by gay couples kissing and not straight couple kissing is more than enough indication of your prejudice. It is very sad, I thought a manga forum is usually more open to this topic than some old souther baptist town..... 😢

did you read it proparly man? i was comparing it, i never said it was the same thing. truly no one is born gay, they think it but they aren't shesh,what about only liking older women? there are people who can't have otherwise. Just read my thing through proparly so you can understand. its is a preference. whatever phsycological way you look at it, that is a preference my friend, and like i said there is nothing wrong with the love they have, just find the sex part sick and thats a truly fair way of looking at it.

you know all i was trying to do was give you more of a perspective on it, it isn't a fetish yes! but by joe it is a preference...the old lady them is like a comparison too, if i say beastiality? will that do since it has its own category? and if i see a young man pulling and old hag, yes i will look the other way...yes it is disguting.

baptist? what are you on about read my thread i thought i put enough logic in there?

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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.
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Exactly, when you compare, you compare two similar thing. Thus you think bondage is like homosexuality, a fetish. I got your point. Now get mine, homosexuality isn't a fetish or perversion, it is an orientation. Hell, if we all use your argument, we should be fascist about everything. Oh no, those couples don't look hot enough, put them in PRISON!! They don't turn me on! They are disgusting!!

You are truly.....

find the sex part sick and thats a truly fair way of looking at it.

A true statement of an ultra conservative....sorry, I cannot help you achieve higher stage of progress....you need more years in you....

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

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Exactly, when you compare, you compare two similar thing. Thus you think bondage is like homosexuality, a fetish. I got your point. Now get mine, homosexuality isn't a fetish or perversion, it is an orientation.

lol ok its hard...
fundementaly im saying it has the same way of acuring as those other things. Yes it is a preference that happens during the course of your life. Basicaly only pointing out its an oriantation doesn't mean it was not preference and the fact that it was just the way of the persons phsycological state, nothing physicaly impended on these folks, It there preference > love is second after in this, the whole meaning of gay is only guy + guy.

understand that opinionated judgement towards the sex is fully understandable. If it disgusts? Then it does..but they have the right to do so.

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Besides, on controversial issues like these....why would there be a right answer? It be quite arrogant to assume you have the right answer when it depends on your values and belief system. If you are a Christian fundamentalist, the idea of homosexuality is 100% wrong with no justification. If you are an atheist who believes in free love and equal rights to all, you might accept homosexuality as part of human society.

Well, fundamentalism is... fundamentally wrong. It's just a very bad excuse to justify any hardcore belief that someone might have.

Being homosexual cannot be wrong per se, as homosexuals have the right to choose a different sexual orientation no matter what. It's only a difference that every open-minded individual should acknowledge without pushing forward any religious beliefs.