Which do you think takes longer? Scanlation of manga or subs of anime. I think manga takes longer and Idk why, it would seem to me that subs should take longer because of timing and translating needs a fews listens over to get all the words down as we. Any ideas?

yea, that bugs me that Manga takes longer to get set and out, than the anime subz do.

With manga, the book or magazine has to be purchased & pages have to be scanned in (by someone, even if the group uses scans they find online), then cleaned and sometimes redrawn, then the translations put in, then (hopefully) proofread.

With anime, it can be recorded from the broadcast, then there's translation, timing, adding the subs, and proofreading (and maybe more steps I'm missing, since I've never been involved with subbing).

I would think that the process of translating from written and from spoken words would be a bit different - for example, having to look up unfamiliar kanji for manga, but having to listen to a conversation several times for anime - but I don't know whether the amount of time it takes would differ all that much.

The amount of time it takes is going to depend on the complexity of the language, how much is going on, the quality of the scans (for manga), whether the group is quick-n-dirty or doing a quality job, how experienced/fast the whole crew is, and probably a lot of other factors I either don't know about or am forgetting.

I don't think there's a definitive answer to which "takes longer" because there are so many different factors involved.

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I Would say Subs.

I mean, if you took two groups, exactly the same in experience, speed, and quality, both RIGHT about to work on a project, starting at the same time, the anime would take longer. You actually have to go in a edit each frame, and there are A LOT of frames per anime episode, more so then pages in a manga chapter. Not to mention with Writing you know exactly what they are talking about, as reading is easier, seeing as spellings are generally different, whereas there can by many a word that sounds the same.

So, yeah. I say Subs would take longer.

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What are you talking about? You don't have to edit each frame. That's madness. Subtitles are done through timecodes. They last from time x to time y. You don't manually put them in frame by frame...

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Editing each frame...when there's usually 16 frames per second? What a scary idea...

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Anime fansubs are considerably quicker than manga releases. Manga releases are also quicker to go through than their anime counterparts when viewing.

Good Manga cleaning itself is a timely process and may take hours for a single page (some chapters such as beck has up to 60 pages), add in time to translate, proof read, typeset etc, it all adds up. Anime generally have less dialogue than a manga chapter.

Anime subs are usually more sought-after and it's like a race to see who subs first the ep after the day it was launched while with manga it's in synch with the japanese releases only for a few popular titles.
So for release fastness, +1 to animes.

You can cut alot of corners with manga scanning, like leaving the sfx's untranslated and just overlaying the text, as opposed to anime where a sub is just a sub that takes the same amount of working on the timing no matter what.
So it depends: scans take more when there's difficult kanji, bad scans that need heavy editing and removing the original text from sfx's and transparent bubbles, while subs take more to get the script, the only other problem is the timing...and if you've got problems with either one of them, the entire episode is pretty much screwed. I'd say subs are easier to do though, but that's just because I never attempted it..manga editing is infernal though, especially if you want pretty scans <_<.

I'm gonna guess that there are more people subbing anime than there are scanning manga? Because when i see subbed anime there are usually at least 5-10 people credited for doing things to help subs where as in manga there's like at most 4 people credited.

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What are you talking about? You don't have to edit each frame. That's madness. Subtitles are done through timecodes. They last from time x to time y. You don't manually put them in frame by frame...

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Editing each frame...when there's usually 16 frames per second? What a scary idea...

Actually in animation, there are 30 frames per second. What programs do they use though? I've done subtitles using Premier and Combustion, but I can't think of any others.

I would also say that subs take longer for stuff like Bleach and Naruto based on the fact that there is more space to fill. A 20 minute show as opposed to a 17 page manga.

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I remember reading an interview a while back about some sub group representitive saying they can pump out a decent sub in around 5-6 hours after obtaining the raws.
Though I still think it's depending on the popularity of the series. More popular series gets rushed out in a race to see who gets them done first, while other lesser known series go at their own pace. That is more true for scans than it is for subs though since the subs tend to follow closely to the broadcast week or so except for again, less popular series.

Although technically, with only 18-20 pages to edit for weekly manga compared to a 22-24 minute anime, the scans should be faster to come out but that's not always the case... 🤨

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Although technically, with only 18-20 pages to edit for weekly manga compared to a 22-24 minute anime, the scans should be faster to come out but that's not always the case... 🤨

That is why I specifically cited bleach. Naruto falls in the same catagory.

With something like Spice and Wolf, the anime was actually released faster than the manga.

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subbing is an easier process... actually with softwarethe way it is, they're both rather simple. have you ever tried encoding a dvd with the software they give you when you buy a video card? its just plug and play. you make your timecode/sub in notepad and away you go

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subbing is an easier process... actually with softwarethe way it is, they're both rather simple. have you ever tried encoding a dvd with the software they give you when you buy a video card? its just plug and play. you make your timecode/sub in notepad and away you go

Really? I didn't even know they gave you free encoding software. I thought it had to be done in like premier or combustion.

The only thing that would make the manga scans more difficult is the cleaning though. That would take up the most time.

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