scans vs subs

17 years ago
Posts: 33
Definitely scans. Mainly b/c of cleaning, and not just b/c of dirty scans. There's also the problem of kanji that's taken out or speech bubbles that change shape...if it's a good quality group, then the cleaning/prep for typesetting can take a very long time. This is in contrast to subbing, where you aren't taking anything out, you're just adding stuff. Also, the method of acquisition is a lot faster for subs than scans, as already mentioned.

17 years ago
Posts: 2009
despite the arguments present it still seems that one chapter of manga takers longer to be scanned than one epi of anime. I guess' that's based on interest, cuz it takes only a few days for a chpter of bleach to be scanned but like weeks for any other manga

17 years ago
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Editing each frame...when there's usually 16 frames per second? What a scary idea...
Actually in animation, there are 30 frames per second. What programs do they use though? I've done subtitles using Premier and Combustion, but I can't think of any others.
I would also say that subs take longer for stuff like Bleach and Naruto based on the fact that there is more space to fill. A 20 minute show as opposed to a 17 page manga.
Subtitles are nowadays usually done with the .ass file type (Advanced SubStation Alpha). It used to be the .ssa (SubStation Alpha) format, but .ass is used because it's advanced and has more features. You can make the script using old-school notepad, or a better-suited program, such as Aegisub.
Encoding is done through a variety of programs, depending on the desired output. For instance, if you want .avi, you can use VirtualDub, but if you want .mkv, you gotta use something more specialized
(And yes, I have been a fansubber)
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17 years ago
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Are those programs cheaper than the programs that I mentioned?
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17 years ago
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It's all freeware. In fact, Aegisub was developed with fansubbers in mind...
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17 years ago
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Really? Is it a full A/V editing program, or used solely for subs?
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17 years ago
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All it does is generate an .ass file. The focus of Aegisub is actually the typesetters, who have the do signs and stuff like that. Ever notice how signs are slanted, different sizes, fading in and out, etc? It's possible to do it with the .ass format, and Aegisub makes it all easier. It's just an overlay of subtitles, pixels, or shapes over the original video, not an actual edit of the video itself (until you encode)
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17 years ago
Posts: 5329
Yeah, from my experience, you have to interlace the different files and render a separate file.
That sounds like a simple process, though this is the first time I have heard of these programs. Thanks for the info lambs.
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17 years ago
Posts: 121
i would have to say scans. with subs it's eavery week but with mangas depending on the scantalation group it might take 25 days to get a manga.