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2. I never said he was a pussy, I said he was a coward, which in essence is a man without honor,

Dictionary definition of cowardice: lack of courage to face danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.

I think you lose again.

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1. I already conceded I was wrong on the Oz statement.

2. I never said he was a pussy, I said he was a coward, which in essence is a man without honor, of which Aizen has none.

3. I couldn't care less if Aizen is more powerful than any of his opponents, he does not fight with honor, and is a tyrant, which is a part of cowardice.

Watch who you are calling an idiot, you mouth breathing mongoloid. Just because I make one mistake, when you cannot even string together a complex statement, does not make me an idiot. I could have used a myriad of other examples to substantiate my point, but I went with something familiar to most, though I hadn't seen the actual film or read the actual book in several years.

If you want to support a sadistic, dishonorable, dishonest bastard-coward, go ahead. I just think you are wrong.

Dictionary definition of cowardice: lack of courage to face danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.

I think you lose again.

Nope. Again, there are certain interpretations that can be included within the textual definition.

Oh, and if you discount that statement, here is the definition of courage.

: mental or moral strength to venture, persevere, and withstand danger, fear, or difficulty

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So you're saying that every villain is a coward?

And even so, by pointing out morals, you point out the ridiculousness of Aizen not killing Momo or Toshiro, if he had no morals, then what stopped him from finishing them off?

Still, it would've only been rational if Momo died since she got the same exact wound as Kaien Shiba and she was laying there on the floor with that wound for like an hour before Unohana showed up.

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So you're saying that every villain is a coward?

Not necessarily. Most are, but not all.

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So you're saying that every villain is a coward?

Not necessarily. Most are, but not all.

What villains do you consider to not be cowards|?

I'm just wondering... Isn't it an instinct for everything to survive? Like if running away means living, why not?

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So you're saying that every villain is a coward?

Not necessarily. Most are, but not all.

What villains do you consider to not be cowards|?

Villains who aren't truly evil. Like... Ryuhei in Watashi no Messiah Sama. Or most of the antagonists in that manga.

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stories where no one dies, when they clearly should have by now, as is the case in bleach, with the amount of "damage" that people can do. just makes it that more realistic.

i like my fantasy, but atleast have it make sense

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i think aizen is pretty cool, just abit messed up in the inside....

i mean to have the moral flexibility to turn on youre own entire comrades that he grew up with (probably), and confident enough to betray them out of the blue while keeping it in the dark, and actually insult them straight to the face before he ran off with the negation to the heuco mundo... NOW THAT TAKES ALOT OF BALLS !!!!

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i think aizen is pretty cool, just abit messed up in the inside....

i mean to have the moral flexibility to turn on youre own entire comrades that he grew up with (probably), and confident enough to betray them out of the blue while keeping it in the dark, and actually insult them straight to the face before he ran off with the negation to the heuco mundo... NOW THAT TAKES ALOT OF BALLS !!!!

Or lack thereof.

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Well,** I have yet to see him get into an actual fight without using some trick or spell to defeat his opponent...** So yea, punk coward he remains.

He's taking on soul society cause the of the strength of people around him, not his own... So yea, lily livered coward he remains.

Eeeh, didn't you see him on Soukyoku Hill? Or in the flashback for that matter? He's strong enough to at least take 7+ Captain-level guys down.

I remember him using some trick/spell to defeat his opponents on both those occasions. I have yet to see him fight toe to toe...

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Well,[b] I have yet to see him get into an actual fight without using some trick or spell to defeat his opponent...[/b] So yea, punk coward he remains.

He's taking on soul society cause the of the strength of people around him, not his own... So yea, lily livered coward he remains.

Eeeh, didn't you see him on Soukyoku Hill? Or in the flashback for that matter? He's strong enough to at least take 7+ Captain-level guys down.

I remember him using some trick/spell to defeat his opponents on both those occasions. I have yet to see him fight toe to toe...

Especially with Urahara.

And I doubt he could take down even 2 captains point blank (Hitsugaya being an exception... little weakling).

That said, we don't even know the bounds of any of the captains skills. At all. The most we know about is Hitsugaya.

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I remember him using some trick/spell to defeat his opponents on both those occasions. I have yet to see him fight toe to toe...

What about when Renji & Ichigo came at him. He didn't use any trick/spell then.

Also, memory's a bit fuzzy, but remember the flashback of Renji/Izuri/Hinamori. If I recall he stopped a huge Hollow's fist with his bare hands. Don't see any spell there.

Besides, Bleach isn't even finished yet. 😮

Sometimes in Shounen manga the main villian usually demonstrates as little of his true power as possible, at least in the beginning of the story. By using a spell/trick and then be defeated by it, Aizen in a way sees the opponent unworthy to fight full-out.

Now if those spell/tricks don't work anymore, then he's going to be serious. 🤨 That's a prediction on my part though.

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I remember him using some trick/spell to defeat his opponents on both those occasions. I have yet to see him fight toe to toe...

What about when Renji & Ichigo came at him. He didn't use any trick/spell then.

Also, memory's a bit fuzzy, but remember the flashback of Renji/Izuri/Hinamori. If I recall he stopped a huge Hollow's fist with his bare hands. Don't see any spell there.

Besides, Bleach isn't even finished yet. 😮

Sometimes in Shounen manga the main villian usually demonstrates as little of his true power as possible, at least in the beginning of the story. By using a spell/trick and then be defeated by it, Aizen in a way sees the opponent unworthy to fight full-out.

Now if those spell/tricks don't work anymore, then he's going to be serious. 🤨 That's a prediction on my part though.

Fanboi.

I'm not detracting from his victories, but special circumstances helped him win EVERY battle. Be it a sneak attack, or be it the exhaustion of his enemies, or whatever.

He is what he is: arrogant, self indulgent, self centered, sadistic, aloof, etc.

We all know that he will get his ass handed to him in the end.

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Oh my god, stop hatin'. 🤨

Not a 'fanboi'. Just dislike characters being hated for illogical reasons; Suzaku, Sasuke, Sakura, etc. Well, not exactly illogical, more petty reasons.

I can see where the hate is coming from, but most of those characters aren't -that- bad. And I'll view Aizen a coward no sooner then when he pulls out a Frieza move (blasting Goku while he spared him). 😮

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