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How should SFX be handled?
The original should be replaced with a translation SFX
A translation should be placed next to the original
A translation should be in the margins
SFX shouldn't be translated at all
 
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Post #533784 - Reply To (#533778) by Achiyugo
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16 years ago
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I might agree with you if they were more definite about what they want to do in the FAQ. The current ideas range from potentially good to just as rotten as ever. Going by the proposal alone, it was a terrible idea.

As nice as it would be to be able to influence publications in Japan to a certain extent, I'm a bit iffy on fans here having that influence. The more influence outsiders have on anime and manga, the more the publishers would be compelled to pander to them. I'd hate to think that series may become watered down so that they don't offend the morals of viewers/readers in the U.S. Censorship sucks enough as is.


Post #533785 - Reply To (#533783) by drunkguy
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16 years ago
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"Given the choice, MH most likely would too."

Then MH would have to do that without a major part of it's current leading staff, so much I can promise. We are all still doing this as a beloved hobby and nobody of us is planning to get paid for it. If that whole thing works out, we'll still be doing our work voluntary and neither I nor several others will support that the website turns into another second class publisher.


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Post #533786 - Reply To (#533779) by Manick
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16 years ago
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To clarify my point: I'm not accusing MU of anything. I'm just fed up reading all those comments of non-stop whining and was trying to point out why MH's partnering up with Viz makes no difference to the community.


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16 years ago
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psh doesn't matter just upload your manga to mangatraders if you dont have a place to host it
besides MH banned me years ago cause of those bel.... nvm >>


Post #533788 - Reply To (#533784) by drunkguy
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16 years ago
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Well, I wouldn't agree w/ the censorship part, since this online community is (in my experience, I may be wrong, but that's just how I see it) is made up of more core manga fans, which means that the online community as a whole would never accept censorship and such, which I think the publishers would have to be aware of.


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16 years ago
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"It's not true that we're only planning to work with Viz on this -- we're also talking with some of the original publishers as well. The eventual goal is to get as many publishers on board as possible, but we need to start somewhere."
So basically what you are saying is that you don't think of doing this with Viz but at the same time, you talked with them and "other companies". Mmm. Maybe my English is not so good but there's something fishy there.
Why to include an English/American company when only the Japanese ones are the only one that deserve the business worldwide?
If the companies provide the HQ raws, people in japan will download them damaging the business of the original right holders, so I don't see that happening. Why would they do it.
The idea of making scanlations legal is good, but this way not. A percentage for the Japanese companies and the mangakas, a percentage for the fansub and then a little money to the page if you want the money so bad.
This is just my opinion. Ad related profit in a site that can centralize the manga scanlation world will have an important profit with people going there to look for the chapters they want. And the best way to do it is giving fansubs money for they work. They are most of the time better than the "professional translators" not Japanese companies get to translate series, so they deserve the money more than people who only provide a place to store it.
I know money is the magic word in this world but people out there provide free scanlations because they really love the series not because they are hungry for money.
Being honest I only use this page as the central station for manga info. With this I go to the official page of the group and download from there. My contact with MH is very limited, only went there when a group uses their storage system to distribute their work.
Hope this help a little.


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Post #533790 - Reply To (#533788) by zhengcano
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16 years ago
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Right, I would never agree to this if they increase the censorship. The censorship is one of the main reasons I read manga this way.


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16 years ago
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I can understand where they are coming from for this, but I don't see this working at all. For one thing, coordinating the distribution of scanlators and distributers will never work correctly. They also will lose a huge amount of traffic, since most people don't want to play. Other sites have tried this before and failed. Oh well, I don't think MangaHelpers is even that good, I much prefer MangaTraders.


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Post #533792 - Reply To (#533788) by zhengcano
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While the current scanlation and even general manga community that reads translations are more ready to accept the more controversial content in manga and anime, some parents, the overprotective bastards who make life difficult for fans in general, are not. Publishers have long been aware of fans gnashing their teeth at censorship but they are also more scared of lawsuits from dumbasses saying they are corrupting their children. Look at the stupidity of the 1950's and the comics code and you'd have an idea how easily publishers will bend over with even the slightest pressure.

Ultimately, any distributor who wants business in other countries will be influenced by the that countries values. That may mean anime and manga will get toned down for foreign consumption.

As for the online community not tolerating censorship, while there will likely be a bit of an uproar, I've also seen a lot defenders of companies censoring. While I imagine they are simply shills for sites like Crunchyroll, I wouldn't be surprised if there are people, mostly lazy, some stupid, who don't care about censored versions. There really is no explanation otherwise as to how companies can continue to censor manga, anime and even Loony Toons. God I miss those WWII cartoons.


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