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I was going to put "yes", but after reading Tartufo's comment I've been persuaded otherwise! Thanks for the reeducation. 🤣

(I've never been in a relationship myself, so I guess I just unconsciously bought into the stereotypes. Maybe that's where they come from; From people without experience?)

That is just my opinion, but thinking like that is lack of relationship experience, when you are in a relationship, mainly long relationships like mine, you will have to understand some things to keep it going, and understanding this difference about men and women way of thinking, in other words, understanding how your partner thinks is basic for long relationships...

Good luck with your future relationships. Hope they bring you joy and wisdom

it depends on the personality of that person. women can have the same ideas as men and visa versa

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I was going to put "yes", but after reading Tartufo's comment I've been persuaded otherwise! Thanks for the reeducation. 🤣

YES! My work here is done. 🤣

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I was going to put "yes", but after reading Tartufo's comment I've been persuaded otherwise! Thanks for the reeducation. 🤣

YES! My work here is done. 🤣

promotes not-so-sekrit agenda of gender non-bias

and i got a headache

Eventhough they have different ideas based on personality, family education, cultural norm.. it doesn't matter. Get marriage, have a child..
What important is the universal matter to reproduce homo sapiens.

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Get marriage, have a child..
What important is the universal matter to reproduce homo sapiens.

it's not that i'm not driven by instinct, but from a rational point of view...we really shouldn't reproduce. so the opposite is far more important

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So aren't gender stereotypes in relationships totally bogus? Like, "Men cheat more often than women." Uh... NO. How is that even statistically possible? Obviously, the men who are cheating have women they are cheating with.

(Leaving aside homosexual relationships, for the sake of clarity...) Given that not every woman is in a committed relationship, it is quite possible for more men to cheat than women; a single woman having a sexual relationship with a married man isn't "cheating" on anybody, unlike the man. Alternatively, even if everybody in the world were in a committed relationship, it would still be possible for more men to cheat on their partners, as long as the women who cheated were more likely to have affairs with multiple men (i.e. more men would cheat on their partners; while the women who cheated would have a higher average number of affairs).

Same thing with sexuality. I often hear, "Men expect more sex from marriage than they get, but women neither want nor expect as much sex from their husbands," and that's... also totally bogus, as is clearly evinced by the exact opposite stereotype that also seems to prevail: "Women are horny minxes that are perpetually in heat, so if you aren't satisfying your woman, buddy, she's gonna have it off with the milkman."

I don't believe the latter stereotype is nearly as prevalent as the first, and with good reason; men have greater desire for sex than women. Otherwise, why would there be so many more female prostitutes than male prostitutes? Men are much more likely to be willing to pay for sex, which is a fairly clear indication that they generally have a greater desire for sexual activity in itself.

According to the last page of opposite gender questions thread men do have one iron goal in a relationship.

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Get marriage, have a child..
What important is the universal matter to reproduce homo sapiens.

it's not that i'm not driven by instinct, but from a rational point of view...we really shouldn't reproduce. so the opposite is far more important

Rubbish. You exist solely (and so do I) to pass on our genes to the next generation. Survival of the fittest, and only the fittest get to propagate their genes.

Argument against both men and women being sex-crazed idiots: women get menopause around the age of 50, they stop ovulating, show greatly reduced hormonal levels, which cause decreased libido, whereas men can produce sperm well into their 70s, since the amount of eggs in a woman is determined from birth, whereas men can produce an infinite number of sperm (theoretically). The result? Old horny men whose wives no longer get that kick out of having sex go look for tender grass (i.e. young pretty girls). Why else do you think red-light districts are full of prostitutes, whereas you'll be hard-pressed to find a gigolo, unless you know where to find them? Simple, because there's more demand for it! If you define cheating to even be a man spending some time at a one-night stand, I can assure you mostly every man has cheated. Now why don't as many women cheat? Because men just need to put on a condom and they can walk away as soon as they're done, no problem. Screw a woman and she has to carry the child for 8 whole months, or get an abortion and then get depression after the abortion. Most realistic women wouldn't do that, it's just impractical and not worth the trouble.

You also tend to forget the cultural factor. In Asia, men are viewed to be 'superior' to the women, and women are expected to show deference to the men. To the man, the mindset will very well be: Okay so I need societal acceptance that I'm an adult. I get married because my parents say so. Whereas the females will be (especially the older generation): ah drats I hate that guy, but since I have no skills or education whatsoever, he can be my money tree so long as I do the housework. Both have different motivations, yet they got into it together. Societal stigma on divorced couples, especially those with children, dissuade people who don't get along to grit their teeth and bear with it. In the western world no one would care even if you divorced twenty times, but in Asian culture, people would talk about you behind your back. So yes, men and women do have different ideas about relationships.

By the way, I find it hugely ironic how you're complaining about social stereotypes about how men and women are looking for different things in relationships, but you're doing the same thing yourself by stereotyping the average man and the average woman.

Rubbish. You exist solely (and so do I) to pass on our genes to the next generation. Survival of the fittest, and only the fittest get to propagate their genes.

so you're saying humans are animals

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Rubbish. You exist solely (and so do I) to pass on our genes to the next generation. Survival of the fittest, and only the fittest get to propagate their genes.

so you're saying humans are animals

Well we sure as hell aren't plants

"It is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."

you sure on that one?

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Rubbish. You exist solely (and so do I) to pass on our genes to the next generation. Survival of the fittest, and only the fittest get to propagate their genes.

so you're saying humans are animals

Well we sure as hell aren't plants

lol thats very true and besides humans ARE animals scientifically. we can eat, sleep, and communicate like other animals, but just way more intelligent

D'oh!

I do believe men and women have different ideas regarding relationships. I'm not talking in terms of stereotypes, because I too have had my fill of those. If I were to believe them, my fiancee would either be gay or a deadbeat, and he is neither. Men and women have different ideas regarding relationships based on individual perceptions. Take a disagreement we had last night: he thought our relationship entailed talking more about the things which annoyed him, while I thought the whole point was to find the error, apologize/"fix it", and remember for the future to not repeat, case over. The perspectives of what the relationship entailed of each other differed. It's not about stereotypes which are published in the media which bombards us with useless information daily. It's about the different perspectives each individual brings to the relationship to make it unique.

Overall, I would say the ideas are not different at all as was previously mentioned in that both parties require fidelity, love, understanding, compromise, laughter, comradership, etc. The area of differentiation is one the micro items of the relationship, not the macro.

May the curse of Mary Malone and her nine blind illegitimate children chase you so far over the hills of Damnation that the Lord himself can't find you with a telescope. - Irish Curse

I'm not your type. I'm not inflatable.

Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid but you're abusing the privilege.

Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film.

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Rubbish. You exist solely (and so do I) to pass on our genes to the next generation. Survival of the fittest, and only the fittest get to propagate their genes.

kawaiiusaghichan, thank you for being one of few people who understand what survival of the fittest refers to. I am sick and tired whenever I hear that only the strongest will survive.

May the curse of Mary Malone and her nine blind illegitimate children chase you so far over the hills of Damnation that the Lord himself can't find you with a telescope. - Irish Curse

I'm not your type. I'm not inflatable.

Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid but you're abusing the privilege.

Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film.

I believe most men give love for sex and women give sex for love. Ofcourse there are exceptions.

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