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I believe the eyes are what he got when he accepted taking Itachi's eyes, thus explaining why Madara saved Itachi's body. You might notice no single Mangyoku looks the same, I think this is just his version of it

Yeah, but they all had 3 thingies~ Sasuke has 6! This is probably some kind of evolved version of the Sharingan.

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Anyway, I hope we can get back to Naruto and crew now. It might just be me or do others think another time skip is a possibility? While Sasuke gains support to take down the leaf and Naruto goes on to train even more intensely than ever, dunno, just saw it and thought it might be a possibility.

I agree with this. Everyone can see that Naruto doesn't look strong in comparison with Sasuke. I mean, he beat 2 Akatsuki members consecutively single-handedly. o.o

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Anyway, I hope we can get back to Naruto and crew now. It might just be me or do others think another time skip is a possibility? While Sasuke gains support to take down the leaf and Naruto goes on to train even more intensely than ever, dunno, just saw it and thought it might be a possibility.

I do thought about that too. Another time skip n Naruto will become really cool after that, both in appearance n jutsu, of course. Just like Jio. 😃

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yay konoha is seriously f***ed, now time for kakashi to die!!!!

Shmoke!!!!!!

sasuke is spitting on his brothers grave. not only is he intent on destroying konoha, the thing his brother cherished more than his own life, more than his own clan and more than his own family, he is also siding with the man who itachi detested more than any one else.

the hawk thing was inevitable... there was all that will he be a snake or will he be a hawk stuff and now that orochimaru is gone he is all hawk.

does this mean kisame knows tobi's true identity? i'm pretty sure zetsu does. i sort of think the atkatsuki are over and naruto might not even kill pain... sasuke may though. in any case with the way things appear hawk will replace the atkatsuki seeing as how madara is now a member of hawk.

naruto only has one special trick and it involves unlocking all of the kyuubi's power with that frog key. this power will prove meaningless in the face of an uchiha who can easily tame the beast that rules naruto. and once its unleashed won't sasuke just take it from him. sasuke will need that power to defeat both the sand and the leaf, if you don't think the sand will come to the leafs aid, reread the series. this will lead to two possible outcomes: naruto is freed from the kyuubi or naruto becomes possessed by the kyuubi and turns into the uchiha's number one dog. if he's freed we will get to see him fight at full strength. if he is possesed we will get to see the kyuubi fight at full strength... good times!

i hope it goes back to naruto too.

lets skip school

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sasuke is spitting on his brothers grave. not only is he intent on destroying konoha, the thing his brother cherished more than his own life, more than his own clan and more than his own family, he is also siding with the man who itachi detested more than any one else.

naruto only has one special trick and it involves unlocking all of the kyuubi's power with that frog key. this power will prove meaningless in the face of an uchiha who can easily tame the beast that rules naruto. and once its unleashed won't sasuke just take it from him. sasuke will need that power to defeat both the sand and the leaf, if you don't think the sand will come to the leafs aid, reread the series. this will lead to two possible outcomes: naruto is freed from the kyuubi or naruto becomes possessed by the kyuubi and turns into the uchiha's number one dog. if he's freed we will get to see him fight at full strength. if he is possesed we will get to see the kyuubi fight at full strength... good times!

i hope it goes back to naruto too.

Itachi gave Sasuke the chance to decide for himself, and I'd have to argue that's what he wanted, he was probably always tortured over having to make the decision and then standing behind that decision, by allowing Sasuke to live and removing Orochimaru from the equation, and making sure Madara couldn't used his sharigan without activating the Mangyoku he implanted he ensured Sasuke would be uninfluenced by others and make his own decision. Sure I think Madara has his hand up Saksuke's rear and is trying to use him as a puppet, but remember Sasuke is very good at seeing through deceptions, so I think he's choosing to be a puppet to acomplish his goals.

And like I said I'm not convinced Naruto's final card in using the Kyuubi, quite the opposite, I think it will either eilliminate it or some how banish it, if it invovles it at all.

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but remember Sasuke is very good at seeing through deceptions, so I think he's choosing to be a puppet to acomplish his goals.

shrugs Can kind of buy that, but don't know if there's much canon evidence that Sasuke can see through deceptions-he seems to get played by 'em more often than not.

Though I wonder if this whole plan will ever come to fruition, or if history won't repeat itself. (Guess that whole which is gonna be the greater theme: friendship or destiny?)

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sasuke is spitting on his brothers grave. not only is he intent on destroying konoha, the thing his brother cherished more than his own life, more than his own clan and more than his own family, he is also siding with the man who itachi detested more than any one else.

Yeah, Sasuke is seriously retarded. I've never heard of such flawed logic before. He totally took a big dump on Itachi's grave.
Also why the hell is Sasuke so strong now...Another Nuke Sharingan? As if it wasn't enough that he killed Itachi (even if Itachi was sick or whatever).
Naruto only knows 2 jutsus,I don't see how he can win...
1.Kagebunshin
2.Ransengan and variations
Don't see how Rasengan or any variation will help him get close to Sasuke who knows a ton of jutsu.

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that is sort of what the key will do, it will unlock the control the fourth and naruto have over it... it just might end up banishing naruto instead of the kyuubi.

all the supposed truths we know about itachi's past have only come from madaras mouth. he might have just killed his village cause he was nuts. sasuke's best friend was never naruto, it has always been itachi. sasuke witnessed his brother die at his own hands hence he unlocked his solar mangekyou.

if you think about it, sasuke has always been the most afraid to be alone, thats why he was easily manipulated by madara. he can't act for himself.

lets skip school

itachis goal wasnt to protect the leaf village it was to prevent the village from being weaken to a state that any organization can come and take over he was trying to prevent a war from breaking out, well acording to madara thats what he was trying to do so if you look at it this way sasuke is not starting a war he is completely wiping out the leaf village so i dont necesarily see how he is "taking a dump on itachis grave" he is doing the same exact thing itachi did just basing the foundation of his plans on his emotions instead of some old peoples orders.

Shmoke!!!!!!

im not sure you're disagreeing with me, rather our semantics are different. i see a war as a wiping out. and i see sacrificing his clan as a means to protect his village. when itachi first appeared in the manga kisame noted on his sentiments toward the village. itachi even explicitly said we're not here to start a war when in actuality they could have wiped out the entire village if they had wanted implying he had no desire to destroy konoha.

lets skip school

mix of Itachi's mangekyou and Sasuke's mangekyou.

just AWESOME 😃

then again we don't really know Sasuke's original pattern

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he could have destroyed konoha but as madara said he mainly went back to send a message to danzou incase he tried to lay his hands on sasuke so if he tried to destroy konoha then he would have had to go through sasuke sooner or later. and a war would usaully pretain to a large army vs another large army if you really think about he has no grudge with the people of konaha just the higher ups which he will have to kill many soldiers in order to get to them but the way i see it hawk is more likely trying to preform a coup d’état rather than kill alot of inocent ppl, although this is mainly my opinion to each his own.

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he could have destroyed konoha but as madara said he mainly went back to send a message to danzou incase he tried to lay his hands on sasuke so if he tried to destroy konoha then he would have had to go through sasuke sooner or later. and a war would usaully pretain to a large army vs another large army if you really think about he has no grudge with the people of konaha just the higher ups which he will have to kill many soldiers in order to get to them but the way i see it hawk is more likely trying to preform a coup d’état rather than kill alot of inocent ppl, although this is mainly my opinion to each his own.

Still you can't really take what Madara said wholesale, you have to suspect anything thihg where he's stating Itachi's feelings and thoughts there's really no way for Madara to have really known them as was see by how he was surprised when Sasuke had the mangyoku the Itachi put there.

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sasuke is spitting on his brothers grave. not only is he intent on destroying konoha, the thing his brother cherished more than his own life, more than his own clan and more than his own family, he is also siding with the man who itachi detested more than any one else.

Not really. Madara stated that Itachi cared about his brother more than Konaha. If The Clan attacked, then konaha, as well as the Uchiha clan would get wiped out. Itachi did it so that the clan would get wiped out and Sasuke would still be able to live in konaha, which was strong enough to keep him safe. Now that sasuke is strong enough to kill anyone that may cross his path, Itachi's mission is complete, partially. Itachi may have hoped that sasuke live a safe life, which is why he didn't want sasuke to know the truth.

But seeing as how Sasuke now knows the truth, of course he would want to get revenge. So part of Itachi's plan failed, which was to make sure sasuke didn't know so he could live a happy life. The point im trying to make is, even sasuke decided not to attack Konaha, how do you expect him to continue living a "happy" life knowing how Konaha ruined his life

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Im pretty convinced that Madara was being truthful (mostly, if not entirely) considering the whole Sasuke/Itachi flashback with Itachi putting his fingers on Sasuke's forehead and doing that same thing right before he died.

I still think that Sasuke will eventually return to the side of Konoha, simply because I dont see either him or Naruto dying and thats pretty much what would have to happen to end the series unless they become friends again. Most likely when they fight next, Naruto will win somehow and give Sasuke some speech about how he has shamed his brother and stuff since Sasuke will probably tell Naruto at some point before, during, or after their fight, what Itachi was actually doing and all that stuff. Then I think that Madara will have Akatsuki attack Konoha shortly after the Sasuke/Naruto fight ends since the village will be weakened but not defeated by Sasuke and his gang. Then Naruto will joint with Sasuke and together they will beat Madara and Akatsuki.

Thats my bet on the outcome, I give it about 150-200 chapters to the end if it goes as I am guessing.