This is a thread about the importance of money.
I was wondering if everyone of you is a capitalist and lives only for money or if you have another view.

As for me...I don't care much about money...of course it's important to earn enough money in order to be able to live properly.
I think money destroys our society! People kill each other because of money! People betray each other because of money.
It's because people think they can achieve their happiness with money that things like this happen.
I think most of you would betray their friends if they could get a million dollars/euros or whatever...or not?

The less you spend, The more you have !

No serriously, i haven't a job yet so and i study aboard so my parent and my economy pay my study and daily life.
That's why i only buy food ( the cheapest one ) and try to spend 600 euro or less for my living.

I think money destroys our society!

But lol, what if there were no money ? how would we live ?
Do you think any people will study for years to be a doctor ( for exemple ) if they have no profit in the end ?

I think money is a necessity and i don't mind people killing each other for that if that make my life better !

We should pay each other with respect and love, of course.

Yes. Why not? 😐

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Define capitalist for me, because clearly you have not studied basic economic principles.

If your question is "Do you live for money?" rather than "Are you a capitalist...?" then my answer would be:

No, I do not live for money. I desire only enough money that I will have the economic freedom to provide for myself and [potential] spouse. And that I will be able to do as I please (I'm low maintenance.)

In regards to your reasoning as to why money is a terrible thing, I implore you to explain an alternative that would keep society functioning. First of all, your comment about money should actually be changed to 'wealth', and then I might add that religion has led to just as many deaths as wealth has. Does that mean religion is a terrible thing? Religion allows just as many good social connections as it does bad ones, and has improved the overall moral health of the world (even if it does so through questionable means.)

Also, it is not wealth that is the culprit. It is people. If people weren't corrupted by greed it wouldn't be an issue. However greed takes many forms... Whether it's wealth, or whether it's a man lusting over his friend's wife. Both are forms of greed, and the existence of the object/person desired is not to blame.

Welcome to th real world. Money can buy u frnz,though not real ones. But its harder to get real friends or loyal love than to earn money so why not try hard to earn money? I work in an underemployed job but cant leav it coz i need to survive. Dont diss money,diss the misuse of it and plz dont use borrowed dialogues. If u dont hav money,n ur loved ones hav a painful terminal disease,watcha gonna do?

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Yes. It's the way the world works, and even though I think differently and wish differently, you can't live without money, that's how it is. You can take away trade, but we're human, you know?

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Like most say, you can't live without money.

Why else do we go through goddamn exams and education? To get a job. Why do we need a job? For money.

Our whole lives are built up and around money.

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The less you spend, The more you have !

No serriously, i haven't a job yet so and i study aboard so my parent and my economy pay my study and daily life.
That's why i only buy food ( the cheapest one ) and try to spend 600 euro or less for my living.

I think money destroys our society!

But lol, what if there were no money ? how would we live ?
Do you think any people will study for years to be a doctor ( for exemple ) if they have no profit in the end ?

I think money is a necessity and i don't mind people killing each other for that if that make my life better !

Money itself is just a place holder for favors. Consider it an IOU. You work, therefore you get a certain level of IOU that you can exchange for other things. In the past when currency was less dominant, there was trade. Your favor comes in the form of your product. So if you produce food, that is your favor, and others will try to win your favor by doing work for you or trading for their favors. It is only when bartering and trading evolved that currency was born, but before that it was done through work. When you were taxed, you gave food not money.

Theoretically, a world could exist without money, but then again, theoretically I could be the king of Canada. Nevertheless, the moneyless world is based on several key assumptions that are far too impossible to achieve. One of such assumptions is that no one is lazy, that everyone will work.

Nevertheless, money makes the world go round. You can buy anything and everything with money, whether it is friendship, love, or even happiness. It isn't the SAME friendship that one would receive from natural relationships developed between two people, but it doesn't make it any less significant. What people often forget is that friendship isn't some form of undying love for one another, friendship is a relationship in which people share something, whether it is an interest in a hobby, the exchange of money, or favors. There are always going to be those who say "nuh-uh! My friend's aren't like that!" but they simply haven't taken the time to think about it yet.

Why does one do something for a friend? Whether it is a simple thank you, or an "i owe you buddy" or to have a favor returned at a later date, they still desire something. If you do something and your friend doesn't say thank you, you get angry. You get pissed. you say, he could've at least said thanks. Immediately, if you even so much as think that, which you most definitely will, your friendship is based on exchange of favor and gratitude. Friendship isn't necessarily the bromance or sisterhood that is glorified on television, it is the exchange of something, and so a friendship based on money isn't that much different. You offer gifts and presents, and in return you have expectations of them. Similarly, money can buy you friends in a parallel sense, in which you do not pay your friends to be your friends, but you purchase similar products, therefore by the products you two become friends. This is commonly seen by both genders, whether it is fashion apparel, video games, or similar hobbies.

In the end, there isn't a single relationship, romance, or friendship that doesn't touch upon money somewhere. Similarly, there isn't a single bought relationsihp, bought romance, or bought friendship that doesn't have some non-monetary connection. The question is the degree of it, but in the end when a friend must make a decision between friendship and money, money is going to win because in this day and age, money = food, shelter, clothes, survival, whereas friendship = favors. One might have a friend who'll put them up and let them stay for a few weeks, or even months, but eventually the favors will end, whereas someone who makes money can keep living, alone, unhappy, but keep living.

As for the doctor comment, doctors were not born from money. they were born out of necessity. If you eliminate money, you eliminate a lot, including education, but people can learn naturally. What society will do is simply retrace the steps of history, studying the human body through trial and error, making theories, and guesses. Similar to how farmers, shephards, and tailors did not exist for the sake of money, they simply existed out of neccesity, and when you eliminate money, everything will still return to doing it for the sake of living.

Do I "live for money"? LOL, not even close...

So so SO many things are more important than money.

Obviously money is necessary in our current society/culture. I'm not disputing that it's a very handy means of exchange.

However, US culture/society (and likely many others, but I've only lived in the US so it's the only one I'm qualified to discuss) is epically over-focused on having money and stuff. New this, new that, latest fashion, brand names, etc....it's really stupid... I'm certainly not immune to it - getting new stuff is fun, after all - but it often gets really excessive & people spend way too much on stuff they don't even get much use/enjoyment out of.

I have found that I have a choice - work long hours at a job (or jobs) that aren't things I would do without being paid so that I can afford a bunch of stuff that I then don't have time/energy to enjoy, or work much less hours & have less money & stuff but more time to do things I enjoy & be with people who are important to me. Guess which one I choose?? 🤣

My household is classified as "very low income" but you know what?? We are NOT poor. We have all the necessities and quite a few of the luxuries and by living carefully, buying second hand, etc. we are doing just fine. 😃

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So most of you DO live for money. I respect that.
Maybe I have a different opinion because I am a religious person.
I don't care much about money because I don't give a shit about this world. I believe in the afterlife. Money doesn't bring me any benefit when I'm dead. Money is just a tool to live in THIS world...nothing more.
But that's meaningless for you since none of you (or very few) believe in the afterlife.
Of course that doesn't make me an emo^^ I still enjoy my life and try to make the best out of it.

I live for others.
Only that way can you be eternal.

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Wait, what?
You mean "capitalist" is someone who lives for money?
I've always assumed it was independent/private business/trade...something ~

Anyways, on topic here.
I don't live for money. I want to have enough to live comfortably (well, with luxuries included :3), but it doesn't mean my whole being strives to make more money...

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So most of you DO live for money. I respect that.
Maybe I have a different opinion because I am a religious person.
I don't care much about money because I don't give a shit about this world. I believe in the afterlife. Money doesn't bring me any benefit when I'm dead. Money is just a tool to live in THIS world...nothing more.
But that's meaningless for you since none of you (or very few) believe in the afterlife.
Of course that doesn't make me an emo^^ I still enjoy my life and try to make the best out of it.

Oh my... How silly.
You think you're the only religious person out there? Or here in this forum for that matter?
You are being disrespectful, despite you saying that you aren't.

But please tell me:
Do you live in a house?
Do you pay for it?/Somebody else does?
Do you eat out? Do you buy food?
Do you wear clothes others have made/bought?
Do you use money?

Answer this and tell me you don't live money.
Using it doesn't mean living for it.

You say you enjoy life.
And why so?
Why do you bother thinking of the life you have here, when afterlife awaits you?
Really. Why bother?

Same with money. It's somethig you need for all the "fun" you as well might have.

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I think most of you would betray their friends if they could get a million dollars/euros or whatever...or not?

Just because one lives for money doesn't mean one would betray one's friends. That's a shitty outlook you have on humanity but everyone's got the right to their own opinion. If betraying my friends was the condition for those money then no, I wouldn't do it. But that doesn't mean I don't live for money. It's just that I also live for my friends.

I live for money, since I don't have the choice not to. This world in itself revolves around money and without it you can't do anything. Especially nowadays when the nature is so messed up one can't even "live off the land" so to say.

In a better world maybe it would've been different but as things are now there's nothing but to suck it down and bear with it... that is to say if one actually wants to live (as opposed to die). It's easy to fool oneself and others by saying one doesn't care for money since it can't buy friends or happiness. But fact is, most often it's the ones who already have money who say it. Those who've actually lived having to worry about how to afford a roof over their heads, food on their table (or floor if they can't afford any furniture), electricity, running water a.s.o would probably be a bit more careful about saying stuff like that.

Anyway, my conclusion is however: Just because one lives for money doesn't mean one is greedy or stingy. Money makes the world (read: humanity) go around and that's an irrefutable, yet so heartbreakingly sad, fact.

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Wait, what?
You mean "capitalist" is someone who lives for money?
I've always assumed it was independent/private business/trade...something

lol...sorry for being stupid 😛

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Oh my... How silly.
You think you're the only religious person out there? Or here in this forum for that matter?
You are being disrespectful, despite you saying that you aren't.

But please tell me:
Do you live in a house?
Do you pay for it?/Somebody else does?
Do you eat out? Do you buy food?
Do you wear clothes others have made/bought?
Do you use money?

Answer this and tell me you don't live money.
Using it doesn't mean living for it.

You say you enjoy life.
And why so?
Why do you bother thinking of the life you have here, when afterlife awaits you?
Really. Why bother?

Same with money. It's somethig you need for all the "fun" you as well might have.

That does make sense. I didn't consider these facts.