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But you can also ask the members in the "I'm Looking For..." section, no? If you want them that badly.

Plus, you even get an extra bonus. And that's the opinion of other people. They can prevent you from reading a complete waste of time harem, no?

But there are also some inconveniences with the "I'm Looking For..." section.

1- You don't get as many answers as using the search engine.
2- People usually recommend the most popular manga or their personal favorites. (Example: xombiemonkey always recommends Love Hina, I always recommend Berserk 😛 )
3- There are some great manga out there that almost nobody has read it.
4- There are some old manga that rarely pop up your mind.

That section is really useful, but it is awesome being able to use both.

Note: I apologize in advance for orthographic or grammatical mistakes in my post. I know that it is not an excuse but English is my third language.

Edit: greydrak@ We said basically the same thing... I'm sorry, I didn't see your post when I was already answering.

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It all goes in a totally wrong direction...

You're all thinking of defining manga genres as the way to make the search results more accurate.
Adding more and more genres is not a solution, like some ppl have already noticed.

There is another way to deal with it, but I think it may be too late to add it.

Key words.

Theoretically, adding 4-5 key words to each series could make the search a lot easier, whatever your search may be ( 'fashion', 'love triangle', 'medicine', 'writers', 'yakuza', etc. ) without adding new genres and messing with the current system.

As for now, the search engine allows you to find a title with a certain key word only, if the word is present in the manga's title or summary ( it's easy to check, type for example 'glasses' in the series search and then check manga that doesn't have 'glasses' in it's title ).

The problem is...what to do with all the series in the database? I'd say, let ppl ( or at least some ppl ) add the key words for as much manga as they can ( I could do that for about 600 titles myself )and even if not all titles have their key words added, in the end there's still gonna be some positive change.

If this idea was discussed before, don't bite my head off, please. It's the middle of the night here where I live, I don't feel like going trough all the threads in this section...again... 🤢

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Where did you get the idea that the genre's list is a "filter"?

....from here? [url]http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?act=genresearch[/url] the advanced search by genre page?

That is, as you said, the advanced Genre Search feature. Why do you call it a filter? The filter feature is located in the User Control Panel section. I thought that you were talking about the genre's list when you mentioned the addition of more genres and subgenres and that you were referring to this site's filter feature when you were talking about filtering, but now I don't even know what to think.

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As far as I know, its function on this site is to categorize series into major classification groups to make their identification more feasible, not serve as a personal criteria reference service for what it should be suppressed or removed. The filter and highlighting feature (as I understood) was not made to serve as a personal censoring feature, that should be "fed" by adding more and more needless genres to refine any personal tastes you may have when blocking or searching for a series, but to facilitate the identification of your favorite genre in the Releases page (in the case of the highlighting feature), and to serve as an extreme way to keep very certain unwanted genres from showing in the aforementioned section (in the case of the filter feature.)

You do know that you don't HAVE to highlight all the genres, right? Let's say that you don't like the harem genre....well....don't use it. How does it harm you the fact that is just listed there?

Again, where did you get the idea that I was suggesting the highlighting of every genre? I was just merely naming the function of the highlight feature, since you were talking about filtering earlier and this feature is tied with the filtering function of the site. But now I realized that I was wrong, since you weren't even talking about filtering, (you were naming the advanced Genre Search feature "filtering") so all of what I said was unnecessary since we weren't even talking about the same thing. (But where did you get the habit of naming the advanced Genre Search feature "filtering"? that word doesn't even show up in the whole section!).
Now, you ask me how does it harm me the fact that harem is listed on this site. The answer, of course, is that it doesn't harm me in any way. In fact, somebody can put made up terms as genres or write incoherences in the series description. Or this whole site can go down and still, it wouldn't put my well-being in any danger at all. But doing that would really damage this site and the function it realizes.
This whole conversation is not about what is good or harmful to me, but what is most beneficial to this site. (Again, where did you get the idea that we were talking about me here?).

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If the main function is to have accurate information, what about all the great features that MU has? highlighting, filtering certain genres, checking your progress in certain series against the actual releases, reading list....etc.

Yes, what about them?

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There are other manga information sites, but what makes MU really great, is the fact that it lets you organizer your manga collection and personalize the information you receive. I think

Nobody is saying the opposite. Why are you bringing it here?

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And this is a general comment, but if information is accurate but not useful, what purpose does it have?

I think that we are having serious communication problems here. As I understand, you are saying that accuracy is not useful on this case, so it doesn't have any purpose. Accuracy, according to the Oxford English Dictionary 3rd Edition, is being "correct in all details" (It distinguish that being accurate is not the same as being precise, since precision just contains a notion of trying to specify details exactly, while Accuracy means ‘correct in all details’.)
So, if you don't consider the condition of being exact, correct and true important in an information site, I don't even know why we have been discussing the inclusion of new genres this whole time. After all, if you think that accuracy doesn't have a purpose, does it even matter if you include new genres?

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A fine point was raised about love hina being a "love comedy", however, a quick wiki also points to the english genre it is listed under. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Hina
"Bishōjo, Comedy, Harem, Romance, Ecchi"

Just a comment. The link you provided listed love Hina as "Seinen", so I wouldn't trust it so much. Now, when I said earlier that Love Hina was listed as Love Comedy, I wasn't saying that love hina is a Love comedy, I was commenting that the Japanese have a genre called "Love Comedy" (Lovecomi for short) and that Love Hina happens to be described under it by the Japanese. I'm not saying that Love Hina is not a Love Comedy (because it is) but that wasn't what I was talking about before.
Clarifying that point, I'd like to point out that Bishoujo is not a genre. Bishoujo is a term, used to describe a pretty girl. Again, it is not a genre, but a feminine character type. And Ecchi used that way is not appropriate either, but that's another extensive topic that I don't wish to treat here.

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This isn't the first place that it's popped up at either, but it is still understandable to people what it means. Doesn't that just help to provide information to people who are interested in manga on a manga information site..?

In first place, the example you provided is pretty bad. It's full of inaccuracies and errors but leaving that aside, are you really asking if listing harem over there provides information to people interested in manga? Sure it does, the mere act of writing something provides information. But as you answer yourself in your next sentence:

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I know that some series are really hectic with the abundant genres under its file

The listing of gratuitous subgenres hinders the main function of this site. And how could people keep the information accurate and "clean" when you are asked to use endless and needless genres and subgenres to describe a title?

And about the rest of your commentaries regarding the accuracy of searching results, Indreju's excellent suggestion covers them all.

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Indreju@ That would indeed solve this problem.

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The thing is, guys, that this is still an info site. And not particularly manga series info, but scanlations info.

Not like I wouldn't love to see MU with a new feature...sigh

Anyway...it's not up to us.

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