In the Netherlands we have more girls studying then guy's, though most do not aspire managers positions. they are the ones that will make up most of the juridical and medical sectors as lawyers, judges and doctors in time.

He says:
"Then after World War 2, people developed an ideology of family values which involved the man having a job and the women, taking care of the kids, taking care of the household and pleasing her husband at demand."

This is a classic example of not having taken a history class or not pay attention in class. He thinks this ideology of the women being family caregivers came about after WWII? This has been around from the beginning of time, women were always seen as the primary caregivers and were given the duties of taking care of the household... you know, how in the old days men brought a roof and food on the table, the women take care of it and raised the children?... I'm shocked no one has pointed this out yet. -_-

As for the rest of his poor argument, although he has some good points, he lacks proper support and tends to blame the women... not all women are ambitious in the working world as they focus on their families, and sexism will always be there. Just like racism will always be there, sure you can cover it up and make it look like it doesn't exist, but just go look at the unemployment rates and you'll see Africans have almost double the unemployment rate of Americans (white)!

Rape is not a fault of women not taking defense classes or arming themselves... it is the lustful man who goes after her, who nearly all the time, preys on WEAK women, and these women can't do anything besides pray for getting a shot in the mans family jewels.

Domestic violence... I don't understand the women that remain in this household... it baffles me to be honest, why take the abuse? Just get up an leave.

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IMO the original poster of this over at gaia is a douche. I can't say I'm a feminist, but I am rather protective of innocence. As such I strongly believe that if you wish to start an argument about a topic then you should have at least experienced it once from both sides. I have several friends that have experienced these and I strongly feel for them. I've helped a few times when I could. So I guess I'm saying he needs to be raped by some macho while being kept in a basement for a week with a single meal of bread and water with a fist in the face for dessert each day, before he posts something like that again. Then I'd be willing to hear his new statement about these topics again.

FYI, I'm not saying I wish that to happen, If the mods wish to delete this post, then by all means please do, as I'm unsure how much I can actually say.

But for the time being I can't help but flame at him. How much you wanna bet he's into NTR? i.e. he's super weak and got knocked out before he could protect his girl (if he had one) and instead of trying to fix himself, he blames her for being victimized and he runs away? I've read a bunch of flaming poo like this during my psych studies. People like this piss me off because they don't know how to take a stand in the real world and only know how to use their mouths to incite stupidity among the masses. I at least can say I've taken a stand several times, and will do so again if and when needed.

Vulnerable? Yes. Useless? I wouldn't say so since they're needed for procreation. Now that I think more about it, it would be a scary world if women did have balls since there would be no need for males to procreate (we would be used just for pleasure, I guess). Shudder.

My opinion:

God Emperor Akhenaton is a:
- pompous tool
- troll
- insecure
- butthurt because a woman was better than him at something

Oh well, opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.

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tl;dr

Haven't read all the replies yet, so excuse me if I repeat anythingg already said.

Anyway. I would like to point out while some formal steps have been taken in the recognition of female equality, in the form of passing and abolishing certain laws, the problem is that our culture and society hasn't really changed at the same rate. The way our society and culture are hasn't really changed all that much since the 1920's.
There is still the general view that male characteristics are superior to characteristics of the female gender. Even in the case that a woman displays strong male characteristics such as a strong competitive drive, she will often get scorned for being unfeminine.
The real problem lies in our society that places different expectations on males and females.
Men are expected to pursue their goals, to be assertive in most everything. While it is expected of women to be more passive, nurturing and from an early age often get the impression that it is more important to be pretty than smart.
You can actually see this in the toys children get. Girls get dolls to dress and make pretty. Boys get lego's that stimulate creativity and spatial intelligence, which helps in understanding mathematics.

So, in short, the real problem lies in our society which as a whole keeps enforcing the gender inequalities. This isn't just the fault of men in general, both men and women are at fault too for maintaining the status quo.

One more thing I would like to add specifially on the domestic abuse thing.
I do agree that women who are being abused should just "man up" so to speak and leave. Being so dependant on a person to the point where you put up with physical abuse is a mental weakness, no matter what gender you are. Still, the most blame lies with the man in question and also the way society treats these cases, (though I think this is rapidly changing at the moment.) Still, the woman should be strong enough, mentally and emotionally, to get up and leave the bastard.

That is all.

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this idiots outlook on life is just so sad

if more like him/her sought help in early years
we could have a pretty nice little world

thank you you dumb piece of shit
it made me lol a little

its kind of a love song for the capitalistic world we live in
so i guess the majority of the western worlds ppl like what that idiot wrote
if they dont...they should consider changing how they vote

I think it's the reverse. It's not women who don't know how to be equal to the man that made them inferior, but because most people see woman as inferior the woman don't know how to be equal to man


Really? Most of the oh-so-called man in my class not strong, persistent, creative, competitive and can face their problems head on. Rather, it was the female. In fact the holder of 1st rank and our leader at the student council is in fact a woman



I dissagree with this opinion. Why? Because human or rather most of the living being created differenly for a reason. Woman and man have different interest in every aspect and equal right's job is to make sure that both men or woman have the same opportunity if they want a job. (ex : It's okay if a man wants to become a ballet dancer or a woman want to become a mechanist) The difference in job preference is more likely because of the different interest in job field

The complain about woman complain about being paid less is only for the case if their job the same or in the same level, not on a different level.(ex: secretary(men) vs secretary (women), but the man were given more money, not doctor vs nurse)

TL;DR
From the way he say it, it's more likely that God Emperor Akhenaton only have a little understanding and don't really understand the meaning of "Equal right between man and women"

So it's God Emperor Akhenaton's area of expertise to know whether a woman has really been raped or discriminated against or really whether she's just being a woman and lacks some tumors on the brain that would solve everything? Really, I don't know whether to laugh or sigh - wait let me ask my mystical mental balls (tumors?) to magic eightball up me the answer.



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Assuming the netherlands are like everywhere else inflamatory talk radio hosts never should be agreed with.

they just spout crazy for you to call in. if you are agreeing with them, you are crazy.

didn't read the post. reading it is unhealthy.

For the record, domestic abuse usually happens to those who can't fight back. What "man" is going to beat up a chick who can either ditch him, or kick his a** right back? If you compare domestic abuse and child abuse, it makes more sense. The victim is desperate for love and will try not to anger the abuser. They are dependant on the abuser and will do anything to please them. Does a child beat up their parents? Not often because the adults are usually bigger and stronger. It takes careful planning on both parts. One to oppress, the other to fight back. There is even an enormous feeling of guilt. Like "What did I do wrong?" and "Why is he/she doing this?" or "Could it really be my fault, instead, that this is happening?" These are some of the ideas going through a person's mind. There is also the shame of not being able to hold together a "perfect", tight-nit, nuclear family. That leads into another reason: the children. If there are children involved, divorce is even less likely because they want to protect the kids. As the ususal "primary breadwinner", the husband earns the money. This will incline some courts to give custody inorder to promote stability and ensure that the children are cared for. Plus, you can't forget that kids make great bargaining chips, or if need be hostages. All you have to do is threaten her cubs and that good ol' mothering/maternal instinct kicks in! This isn't just a phsyical thing or even a matter of "manning up". To say so is to overgeneralize and is an insult to anyone who has had to, or still needs to, deal with it. There is so much more I could say, but I think I've said enough to enlighten you guys. The rest you can learn on your own if you choose. And have facts when you do because I have mine from personal and professional sources. Not that I was abused, but I know people who were.

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urrgg was this man born with an extra chromosome or something?retards like him should shut up if they have no idea what they're talking about

sadly,im not in a mood to give a lengthy reply to everything he said
everything i wanted to say about the domestic abuse part has already been said
there is another thing ,however,that irritated me immensely
its his outlook on rape


how the hell does murder compare to rape?i dont understand,theyre two different things
when he says "we" does that include the massive numbers of male rapists around the world?
how does a man getting slugged at a bar compare with being nonconsensually sexually attacked?
when he says "take defense classes,get a knife,pepperspray or hundgun"did he forget the vast numbers of girls who get raped by their own fathers(or relatives)?a girl who has some kind of emotional attachment with the rapist wont be able to properly defend herself
and what about gang rapes??
also,normally a man's body is much bulkier and stronger than a woman's,so when a woman is pinned down(and most likely drugged or something) defending herself wont be as easy as he makes it out to be

Well, there are things I do agree with; And there are moments when I get this urge to hit someone.

First off all, No man is the same and No woman either. There are women who don't hit back and there are those who kick you all the way up. This person clearly generalizes women.

Seconds, Men and women aren't equal, yes that's true. Men can't give birth and (most) women are a lot less strong than men. But to think men would be worth more is complete and utter bullshit. Men wouldn't exist without women and women wouldn't without men. Women have qualities that outshine men's and reversed.

Thirds, since women are different than men, they'll take other jobs (most of the time) but the whole paying thing is about men and women who have the same job (like both doctor), and there if they have the same qualifications, experience and ambition (etc), they have to get the same pay (in my opinion).

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Statistics have clearly shown that in most cases the woman is raped by a family member or a someone she knows well. And if the woman does defend herself and (accidentally) kills the guy in the heat of the moment, she's likely to be charged with murder


And what about kids who get raped; I suppose this guy thinks that's their own god damn fault too?! "Stupid brats, should have been taking self-defense lessons" might be something he'd say about that. I think there's something seriously wrong with this guy's head.
Abusing those weaker than yourself is always a cowardly act.

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I agree with alot of this actually. There are a few stuff i disagree of course but it seems like he did his research.