Ah Minato. So heroic~

It's a wonder no one made this topic earlier all things considered 😛

The chapter was nice overall but i don't know why the front page with the uzumaki family daily routine had more of an emotional impact O.o

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I love the cover page. All the other coverpages can't compare honestly.
I really do feel for Minato and Kushina... I wish they had gotten to really be with Naruto while he was growing up. :/

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I love the cover page. All the other coverpages can't compare honestly.
I really do feel for Minato and Kushina... I wish they had gotten to really be with Naruto while he was growing up. :/

That cover page actually broke my heart x.x'
All the things that could of been....

If there was a real evil in the universe it would be the illusion that man creates to defend its Forsaken Ideals.

I kept staring at the cover page for minutes.....It's a pity that they died,I mean they would have been a great family.='/
Was nice to see Kakashi,Gai,Kurenai and Iruka so young.
really,I don't have any complains about this chapter.
and it made incredibly happy to see Minato beat Tobi/Madara,he just showed that the Uchihas aren't gods,even if many of them think so.

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This chapter was sad. The two page color spread that shows the kind of childhood Naruto will never have, and the sacrifices that Minato and Kushina did for everybody...

I really hope Kishimoto keeps writing moving stuff like this, cause he's shown that he has the talent to write real well.

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Just because someone's head was chopped off doesn't mean they're dead. That's just silly.

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I was interested in Minato's comment about them needing the kyuubi to be sealed in Naruto to maintain "the balance of tailed beasts." I assume that means the balance of power among the ninja villages (with each one having their own tailed beast)?

It was nice how we got to see that one brief bit with Iruka's parents since we'd been told before they were killed during the kyuubi's attack. Glad Kishimoto didn't forget about that. (Speaking of, is it just me, or so far doesn't the kyuubi seem to have caused all that much damage? I mean, Minato contained it pretty quickly, all things considered. Given how much Naruto was once hated, I was expecting the whole village to have been flattened, a la Pain.)

And sorry, but I've got to complain about Kurenai's father telling her "But, my dear daughter, you are also a woman. If nothing else, survive long enough to give me a grandchild." It makes it sound like a woman's primary duty to the village/her family, before even being a shinobi, is to be a baby-making machine. Don't know if that's how Kishimoto intended it (I wouldn't put it past him), but that's how it came across to me. 🙁

madara didnt kill his parents.... it was their choice(lol they are so strong they have to kill themselves)... who cares tho? 😛 . With naruto's new "im Mahatma Gandhi" theory not much hate will be seen comming from him and well not like that makes it any interesting anyway.... with sasuke hate we have pleny.

I bet next chapter will be tha end of this nice flashback I wonder when this cute arc will end. Maybe 3 more weeks.

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Well brid... Can males give birth? Of course thats a girls only job And as Kids are tha kings its no wonder thats a REALY important job in their village. Im not trying to sound mean tho my english suck so try to read this with an open mind. Its not machism its just reality only girls give birth and only girls are important to keep humanity going, its no wonder we have to protect them.

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Sinde note:
Well brid... Can males give birth? Of course thats a girls only job And as Kids are tha kings its no wonder thats a REALY important job in their village. Im not trying to sound mean tho my english suck so try to read this with an open mind. Its not machism its just reality only girls give birth and only girls are important to keep humanity going, its no wonder we have to protect them.

Only women can give birth, but only males can impregnate them. It's a 50x50 job. So shouldn't men be protected to preserve the human race as well?

(Sorry, ETA in case it comes up: one guy can impregnate lots of women, sure, but the resulting generations would be incredibly in-bred if that were to happen. Ideally, for the best survival of future generations, you need as much genetic mixing as you can get, which means keep lots of women AND men around.)

Try and think of it this way: would you have thought it totally natural if Kurenai were male and her father had said, "But, my dear son, you are also a man. If nothing else, survive long enough to give me a grandchild"? Because guys get told all the time not to do certain activities because it might impede their ability to have children, right?

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madara didnt kill his parents.... it was their choice(lol they are so strong they have to kill themselves)...

Madara did, at the very least, kill Kushina. Although it didn't occur immediately, as soon as the Ninetails was extracted she was as good as dead because when Jinchuuriki lose their beast they die. Minato's death is more debatable. Kushina could have sealed the Ninetails within herself with the last of her power, and as she died she would have been a temporary vessel as a new Jinchuuriki was found.

Minato seemed to reason that Naruto had to be the new Jinchuuriki as he was the only one capable of defeating Madara. Things get kind of confusing here though. It seems the only way to do this was to sacrifice himself as this would create a seal that would seal half of the Ninetails chakra within himself (? or perhaps just eliminate half of the Ninetails chakra?) and the other half within Naruto (Minato says that a "Non-Jinchuuriki" cannot handle the full chakra of the Ninetails) This must imply that very few people have the ability to house the Ninetails in full, hence the reason Kushina was kidnapped earlier on as she was a rare person able to do it.

So if it is true that only Naruto could defeat Madara then it was indeed necessary for Minato to sacrifice himself, and thus yes Madara did kill both of Naruto's parents.

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Sinde note:
Well brid... Can males give birth? Of course thats a girls only job And as Kids are tha kings its no wonder thats a REALY important job in their village. Im not trying to sound mean tho my english suck so try to read this with an open mind. Its not machism its just reality only girls give birth and only girls are important to keep humanity going, its no wonder we have to protect them.

Only women can give birth, but only males can impregnate them. It's a 50x50 job. So shouldn't men be protected to preserve the human race as well?

(Sorry, ETA in case it comes up: one guy can impregnate lots of women, sure, but the resulting generations would be incredibly in-bred if that were to happen. Ideally, for the best survival of future generations, you need as much genetic mixing as you can get, which means keep lots of women AND men around.)

Try and think of it this way: would you have thought it totally natural if Kurenai were male and her father had said, "But, my dear son, you are also a man. If nothing else, survive long enough to give me a grandchild"? Because guys get told all the time not to do certain activities because it might impede their ability to have children, right?

Okay, so Kishimoto may be a sexist but I honestly don't think he meant it to come out sexist this time. If Kurenai were an only child and she got killed, who would keep the bloodline going. Her old man looked, well, old. He was just thinking about his family and how to best keep his daughter's ass put in a safe place. I'm just saying

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Okay, so Kishimoto may be a sexist but I honestly don't think he meant it to come out sexist this time. If Kurenai were an only child and she got killed, who would keep the bloodline going. Her old man looked, well, old. He was just thinking about his family and how to best keep his daughter's ass put in a safe place. I'm just saying

I kind of took it that way too, as a parent trying to protect his child. It's sort of a major, major theme in Naruto. In half the story arcs, you have some older ninja sacrificing him/herself to save future generations. --Hell, the more I think about it, the more I realize that this sums up nearly half the story arcs in Naruto. (The Third, Chiyo, Asuma, Jiraya, Minato/Kushina...)

I'm guessing the small side-story with Kurenai and her dad was meant to echo the main story of Naruto and his parents.

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madara didnt kill his parents.... it was their choice(lol they are so strong they have to kill themselves)...

Madara did, at the very least, kill Kushina. Although it didn't occur immediately, as soon as the Ninetails was extracted she was as good as dead because when Jinchuuriki lose their beast they die. Minato's death is more debatable. Kushina could have sealed the Ninetails within herself with the last of her power, and as she died she would have been a temporary vessel as a new Jinchuuriki was found.

Minato seemed to reason that Naruto had to be the new Jinchuuriki as he was the only one capable of defeating Madara. Things get kind of confusing here though. It seems the only way to do this was to sacrifice himself as this would create a seal that would seal half of the Ninetails chakra within himself (? or perhaps just eliminate half of the Ninetails chakra?) and the other half within Naruto (Minato says that a "Non-Jinchuuriki" cannot handle the full chakra of the Ninetails) This must imply that very few people have the ability to house the Ninetails in full, hence the reason Kushina was kidnapped earlier on as she was a rare person able to do it.

So if it is true that only Naruto could defeat Madara then it was indeed necessary for Minato to sacrifice himself, and thus yes Madara did kill both of Naruto's parents.

I think its not that naruto is not "non-jinchuuriki", he is and he has special chakra (inherited from Kushina) and could handle the full force of nine-tails, its just that Minato didn't want to take the risk of Madara gaining access for full nine-tail force from Naruto plus He, himself, couldn't handle it. Minato only had power to seal half of nine-tail chakra permanantly with his special seal along with his soul even by sacrificing his life. What Minato did is he divided nine-tails power in half permanently. Even if MAdara does get better of Naruto, what he will get will be only half of nine-tail force, the other half is gone for good.

So NAruto only has half the power of the nine tails and the other half is gone, doesn't that make thge nine tailed beast he has weaker the octopus and perhaps some other tailed beasts...or is the nine tailed beast so strong that even at half the power its better than the others.

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