I think the point is that Suzaku is evil enough now. I mean, he's at least determined enough to let nothing stand in his way. When he sold out Lelouch, he committed to doing anything within his power to correct his previous mistakes (i.e. killing his Father), while saving as many lives as possible. There's a difference in efficiency between Lelouch and Suzaku, but at this point the goal is virtually the same.

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Suzaku is like a Jewish man trying to take over the Nazi's from right under Hitler's nose.

Interesting point, but I don't think suzaku is trying to take over the Nazi's from under hitler's nose. Instead he is doing exactly what Hitler and the Nazi's did rise to power in germany, which was through legitmate means. I give Susaku props for doing a similar approach as the germans and getting so far. =D

I would comment on Nunally's blindness. It appears very suspicous to me that the geass incorperates the eyes and the one of the significant characters in the plot is blind. Furthermore Nunally getting blinded from trauma is just too simple. Isn't it suspicious how Nunally was blinded from the result of some one dying who was once close to the king (read spoiler)?

who also has a geass

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I think the point is that Suzaku is evil enough now. I mean, he's at least determined enough to let nothing stand in his way. When he sold out Lelouch, he committed to doing anything within his power to correct his previous mistakes (i.e. killing his Father), while saving as many lives as possible. There's a difference in efficiency between Lelouch and Suzaku, but at this point the goal is virtually the same.

He's not evil, neither is Lelouch, Suzaku just dropped his morals for the the ruthless Machiavellian approach that Lelouch employs. I'm not sure Suzaku is willing to sacrifice people like Lelouch is but Suzaku is now just as manipulative, deceiving and cunning as Lelouch. I wouldn't consider that evil but then again this anime is so great that you can't really consider any of the main characters pure evil. And yea agree with dwan744. Like the Nazis, Suzaku is winning support through legitimate means. Which means putting a historic context on this:
Lelouch is a dirty communist
Suzaku is a dirty fascist

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Suzaku is like a Jewish man trying to take over the Nazi's from right under Hitler's nose.

Interesting point, but I don't think suzaku is trying to take over the Nazi's from under hitler's nose. Instead he is doing exactly what Hitler and the Nazi's did rise to power in germany, which was through legitmate means. I give Susaku props for doing a similar approach as the germans and getting so far. =D

I would comment on Nunally's blindness. It appears very suspicous to me that the geass incorperates the eyes and the one of the significant characters in the plot is blind. Furthermore Nunally getting blinded from trauma is just too simple. Isn't it suspicious how Nunally was blinded from the result of some one dying who was once close to the king (read spoiler)?

who also has a geass

GO Zero GO!!!!!!

he's doing it legitimately? the king put him in his place in exchange for his certain spoilerific actions nothing else, how many followers u think da man has anyways.
sh*t nobody gave a damn when Lelouch's mom was killed. da only thing he has goin for him is dat not many ppl no about his plans.

imagine what would've happened if Lelouch broadcasted Suzaku's speech about taking over Britania and admitting killing his dad. everybody in Area 11 Britanian and Japanese woulda been after his head.

as for Nunaly she was pretty young, so its normal considering the magnitude of the attack and damage of the attack.

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Well the Ep №5 was rather unexpected 😲

BTW this season will contain only 13 eps. which means we're almost at half. 😢
This is also means that events will go even faster 😃

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That someone life today is mine
And i know how, and i know where
I am a Maniac as you can see

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Where exactly did you get you 13 episode information all sources I've looked haven't said the predetermined number as of yet.

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This season is 25 episodes... You should actually look at information next time.

I can cite an entire list of sources on this, and I'll do so if you really want me to.

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Wüt? @_@ It's 25.

And about the "Happy Birtday" comment from Lelouch, I think it was just because it really was Viletta's birthday? -.-

But it has a double meaning in the respect that she would be obliged to follow Zero from then on. Kind of a symbolic meaning for her 'rebirth' in the Order of the Black Knights.

P.S.: More Xing-ke!

I hope they won't downplay him like they did with Toudou. Because in the beginning he seemed all smart and experienced-like, but since he joined the Order of the Black Knights, his role faded into that of a pawn (AKA background character). That's how I feel about it. 😀 I still like Toudou too though.

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And about the "Happy Birtday" comment from Lelouch, I think it was just because it really was Viletta's birthday? -.-

...Wow, do I feel like an idiot. That never crossed my mind. 🤣

Anyways, I also feel that Toudou has been a bit downplayed since his introduction, however the same probably won't happen to Li. Toudou's always been more of a secondary character, and Zero just kind of downsized him because their goals are the same but he's got more of what it takes to pull it off. Li's starting off strong and he's got his own agenda.

I'm kinda still wowed about the ending of 5. lol

Once again, my report after the raw.

-_-;;, I can't beleive how much of an idiot Suzaku is. Yeah, Rollo resolved it, but he should've realized from the ~30 second pause alone where Nunnally was just going "onii-sama! onii-sama!" that Lelouch knew who she was. It actually took him Lelouch assaulting the carrier and attempting to steal Nunnally to realize it.

I'm not sure if Charles called V.V. "Nii-san" or "V-san" I'll have to check on that later. Either way, their contract is apparently "killing a God".

Rollo-Nunnally showdown is definitely going to happen. Nunnally will probably win it too.

Karen's new Guren mod is godly. She'll be the one to beat Suzaku in a mech battle towards the end, naturally.

Nunnally has intellect, and is capable of rational ideas and the like. She also seems to have realized that Lelouch is Zero at the ending.

EDIT: I forgot to put this until I finished the sub. Rolo's time limit seems to be 5 seconds, but in addition to this, there's probably a cool-off period before he can use this ability again, otherwise he could have kept Suzaku under his influence for longer. Yay logic.

Other predictions:
-Lelouch becomes lost for two episodes trying to decide his purpose if Nunnally cares about Suzaku more than him and hates Zero. Conclusion will probably involve CC on some level, but mostly the need for liberation as a whole. My guess would be that this arc determines that everything he does is no longer just for Nunnally, but for the sake of equality. This may open up the possibility for Rollo killing Nunnally towards the end, but we'll see.
-Lelouch also goes an murderous anti-Suzaku rampage at some point.
-Chinese federation is in the palm of the Black Knight's hands thanks to the Empress being a little girl who's only friend is Kaguya, and Li's absolute devotion to her. We'll be seeing a lot more from them in the very near future.

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Finished watching episode 6.

First thing, is that I'm going to have to agree with Crenshinibon that Suzaku's an idiot. If he wasn't going for the shock factor, and the resulting pause, then what was he looking for? For Lelouch to shout "Nunnally!?" Too bad I'll have to take back the credit I gave him last episode.

And some interesting revelations in this episode. Kaguya and the Tianzi's relationship as well as Charles and V.V.'s contract. The former will be interesting to see how that plays out. The latter I wonder what purpose it would serve.

And Guren got such an epic upgrade. Though the fight was short, Karen basically proceeded to fight on par with two Rounds, disable them, and then move on to own Lancelot. Now that's an epic win. Although she did have the element of surprise, suddenly gaining the upgrade in mid-battle.

As for predictions, it seems like Lelouch will be doing some major contemplation during the next episode or so. I'm guessing it'll have something to do with his purpose for being Zero now, given that Nunnally will be trying to reestablish the Special Administrative Zone of Japan (and she has already said that his methods, to her, were wrong) and his thoughts in the preview.

And as for the plan Nunnally is proposing itself, it'll be interesting to see the public reaction. The first idea certainly didn't end up going too well and I'm guessing the public hasn't forgotten the massacre it turned out to be and'll be very hesitant to go along with this new plan. Though Nunnally'll probably address this issue when the time comes.

I agree. Suzaku is a complete moron not to realise for the epic pause and the fact Lelouch didn't even move for practically an age. What else does he need? I don't like him anymore anyway since he wrongfully sold of Lelouch for power in my eyes but still, I expect him to have a least a modicum of common sense and deductive ability when trying to purposfully trick someone.

I'm very interested in the friendship between Kaguya and Tianzi though, I have so many scenario's running through my head as to where that might go it would take an age to list them all. Also, assuming Nunally has realised that Lelouch is Zero, what she plans to do now she's governor.

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The pause was obviously just a filming technique in order to increase the tension. IRL, that would have probably just lasted 2-3 seconds.

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