Dropped or not?
18 years ago
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I believe anidb actually does it based on user subscriptions...As in, you members are the ones to say if it's dropped or not.
A just ruler amongst tyrants
18 years ago
Posts: 185
Quote from RilleL
The problem is that you can't know for sure if the manga is dropped or not. Sure, if the latest release was 3 years ago, the manga is probably dropped but you can't know for sure. My suggestion is that you change it to dropped only if you're certain.
As the others said the only ones that should do that are the scanlators themselves since only they know for sure if a project is dropped or not.
Quote from RilleL
Maybe it's better to just have a dropped or not option, like my original suggestion, where dropped = no scanlation group whatsoever is scanlating this (or no release in 3 months).
The problem with that is that it seems like M-U is pressuring the groups into releasing faster, which is not a good idea. (That option looks like its saying "You better release faster because otherwise I'm gonna say that you've dropped the project...")
And besides, that'd be terribly misleading since some groups take years in releasing a single chapter. (And that they took that long doesn't mean that the manga has been dropped, but just that it's not high in the group's priorities).
Quote from RilleL
And the idea is for us users here in mangaupdates to have an easy and fast overview over the information of a manga. Looking up the scanlator(s) and checking their website defeats this purpose.
But mangaupdates is also compromised into bringing the most faithful and accurate information as possible to its members and trying to impose itself unrealistic objectives as those also defeats that purpose.
Quote from leoak
like the idea of having something that says if a manga is dropped. Some scanlators don't have websites or forums and not all of them update their drop list.
Exactly. If the scanlators don't have a website or forum how do you think that we could say if a manga has been dropped or not?
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Maybe it'd be a good idea to contact Anidb.net and ask how they manage their status list.
You're aware that Anidb is an anime site, don't you?
Quote from reanimated838uk
Same thing could be said about the reading lists. It'd only take a few minutes to check the website for releases. But if your keeping track of hundreds of manga, that's going to be seriously difficult to maintain an eye on.
No, it's not the same thing. The purpuse of reading lists is not to inform you about the releases (that's the function of the "Releases" section of the site) but to keep track of the status of the manga you read: Which one you've finished or you wish it'd be scanlated, which one are you reading (and in which chapter are you on), etc. The release option (as well as the statistical one) are just additional features.
Quote from Juneau
Or it could be automatically changed to active for a few months if anyone adds a release...
I don't know whats viable, I'm not familiar with it.
It already does it for scanlators, I think that is done automatically? I don't know if the same thing can be applied to the manga.
The scanlator information page says "inactive", which is a very different thing. You can perfectly say that a manga is inactive, but that it has not been dropped. The two terms may look equal, but they are not.
Quote from RilleL
Yes, i know it seems like an impossible task, but that's why the N/A option exist. I expect most of the series to be this.
Even you accept that it's an impossible task and that most of the series wouldn't even have that area filled up. So again, why do you want to implement such an unreliable, untrustful and unrealistic option?
Member18 years ago
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Quote from NeoFireHawk
Quote from Juneau
Or it could be automatically changed to active for a few months if anyone adds a release...
I don't know whats viable, I'm not familiar with it.
It already does it for scanlators, I think that is done automatically? I don't know if the same thing can be applied to the manga.The scanlator information page says "inactive", which is a very different thing. You can perfectly say that a manga is inactive, but that it has not been dropped. The two terms may look equal, but they are not.
I decided that showing that a manga is inactive and showing that a manga has been dropped we're similar enough not to create a new topic, thus i posted here, I wasn't talking about dropped in the quote.
18 years ago
Posts: 185
Quote from Juneau
I decided that showing that a manga is inactive and showing that a manga has been dropped we're similar enough not to create a new topic, thus i posted here, I wasn't talking about dropped in the quote.
If that's so, then it's a much feasible idea than the one suggested before...but since M-U already lists the date in which each release was made it's kind of pointless to have an option that says if a manga is being actively scanlated (since you can just see the last release date), don't you think?
That feature would only be useful if the release dates are unknown to us (but since they are unknown how could you possible know if a manga is inactive?)
Member18 years ago
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Quote from NeoFireHawk
Quote from Juneau
I decided that showing that a manga is inactive and showing that a manga has been dropped we're similar enough not to create a new topic, thus i posted here, I wasn't talking about dropped in the quote.
If that's so, then it's a much feasible idea than the one suggested before...but since M-U already lists the date in which each release was made it's kind of pointless to have an option that says if a manga is being actively scanlated (since you can just see the last release date), don't you think?
That feature would only be useful if the release dates are unknown to us (but since they are unknown how could you possible know if a manga is inactive?)
Yeah, for that reason it's a very low priority idea, another suggestion would be to add the date of release field to the "Latest Release(s)" table on the series info page itself, so you can check the dates without navigating to the release page. Though again, it's not particularly important, the only reason it came to mind is because I was looking for lots of new manga on a particularly slow computer, so loading that extra latest releases page each time to check if it was active or not began to add up.
18 years ago
Posts: 173
Quote from NeoFireHawk
But mangaupdates is also compromised into bringing the most faithful and accurate information as possible to its members and trying to impose itself unrealistic objectives as those also defeats that purpose.
And that's why i said that a N/A option should exist and that you only change it if you're certain.
Quote from NeoFireHawk
Even you accept that it's an impossible task and that most of the series wouldn't even have that area filled up. So again, why do you want to implement such an unreliable, untrustful and unrealistic option?
So your point being, you should only stick to easy, short term solutions instead of doing a slower, but fruitful one?
Is it so unreasonable for an information site that keeps track for manga releases for scanlation groups, to actually show if the manga has been dropped or not? I sure as hell don't think that...
