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so then we impose a time limit. a certain group can only claim interest in doing a series once, and it is a 1 month (or some other period) time frame which will automatically expire (and is not visible to viewers). This means that the group must start the series within that time frame or we don't keep that information anymore. (and they cannot re-place their interest using the system).

That's a good idea, though I doubt it would be an easy thing to implement. Just a timestamp on when they put their interest in would do the same for me (like, if I see someone interested in something for 8 months, I'll know they're not really starting it, or at least need staff to get it started). Lots of groups define their "future projects" as projects they just have scans for, so they wouldn't get a lot of use out of a system with a month deadline.

I think maybe, as someone suggested earlier, naming it "Groups interested in" would be a better way to keep it from seeming like groups are claiming a project, though I'd set it up as a separate thing (so it could apply to projects that are dropped by other groups). Though "interested in doing" is something entirely different from "future projects" (in my opinion) ~ I'm interested in doing a whole bunch of manga that I don't have staff for, but would like to do someday. I'm not about to call those future projects, though.

"Groups intending to scanlate" with the plural, might make the point that putting your group there doesn't mean you own it.

...I think I'm getting repetitive on this, sorry 😔

I really think making people sign up as a group in order to alter that kind of stuff is going to put a huge burden on the site, and will be too much of a hassle for groups, though. Not to mention the mess if the person in charge of such a thing left, and then someone else wanted to start doing it, staff turnover, etc...

Personally, even saying that something is a 'future project' doesn't mean you own it. I mean... it's planned to be done in the future... which isn't the present. Complicated as that may be. Now, if a group had a 'currently in production' list, I'd probably feel differently about it.

I also like the idea of having something about interested groups. For example, you could add your group like 'Joe Blow Manga (have interested trans, looking for joint)' and maybe get a partner who's also interested but maybe doesn't have the translation power at the moment. And it sidesteps the issue of 'claiming'.

This would also push MU further into an area of group-based networking instead of just listing new releases. Next thing you know people will be asking to customize their group's page. (btw, has anyone ever considered adding a contact email to the group pages?)

I like where this is going... This is sounding more interesting.

This is heading towards quite a large addition to the site directed at scanlation groups. Mangaupdates.com becoming a centralised locale (if it isn't already) for group organisation. As SnoopyCool mentioned, instead of letting groups tag a series they are interested in, let them fill out a small form with fields such as required job positions, an extension of the recruitment forum if you will. It might help individuals lend a hand, or smaller groups merge.

I'm not sure what type of plans you have for mangaupdades, I also don't know if theres a need to be worried about legal aspects, so I better stop here.

I agree that having more information tagged onto a "planned project" or "interested in project" would be cool, and would lean more toward the networking side. Detailed information like that could really bog down a project page, though ~ perhaps hide it under a cut/ roll-over?

I'm of the mind that putting anything on an intended project list here wouldn't make it a claim, it's just information for people to take into account. I get that that's what everyone's worried about, but it's kind of a non-issue for me.

My original suggestion was trying to keep it a simple, easy add-on. If the mods/coders want to go for something more complex (yet more helpful to groups), that'd be awesome as well. If you're leaning towards it, I really think this site could become the premiere group networking site because of the wealth of information in the database. But I think, if that's the case, you'll want to start up another thread to work out what people would want out to that ~ it could have ramifications far beyond just connecting groups interested in the same project. For instance, a place for groups who are closing to notify other groups and get projects continued (instead of dropped), etc.

I agree that having more information tagged onto a "planned project" or "interested in project" would be cool, and would lean more toward the networking side. Detailed information like that could really bog down a project page, though ~ perhaps hide it under a cut/ roll-over?

Interesting idea, but let's say I'm a group :

• I see that nobody have yet scanlated manga X
• I mark that I'm interested in manga X (although I don't have anything)
• Result : The system become a place to recruiting people .....

So display more informations doesn't help the users very much, unless he wanted to join a group.

Maybe we can implement that "more informations" system in the groups page's, or better, have a centralized center where all those informations will be displayed, and build a network between groups, so they can do joint project.

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• I see that nobody have yet scanlated manga X
• I mark that I'm interested in manga X (although I don't have anything)
• Result : The system become a place to recruiting people .....

Whatever way is decided, I think it just has to be clear at what "stage" of project planning a person should list their group. "interested in doing" may equal no staff, "planning" would be gathering staff, hopefully with scans, and future/working on would be actually in production. I'm not recommending having all 3, of course, just defining based on what's chosen and gets put into the system. A line about what qualifies would be all you need.

Letting groups say they're interested in a manga, but without any staff/scans, would not be the best way to go (in my opinion). I think it should have more serious groups who're in the planning/production stages, at least. Right near the end of production (ie about to release) would be more stringent.

Well, I was thinking that individuals could 'show interest' as well as groups, so If a group decides to start a project, they could pop over to the manga page and check if there's anyone they can scoop up. Colour coding their names by job position would help too.

Another thought is a "Looking for group" system, though I'm not sure if any of this group buisiness is the way you want to take mangaupdates. This system would just be another branch of the site, not part of each series page (though both ideas could run parallel). Basically you could have members of the site add manga that they want to help scanlate, as well as the job position and experiance, so that groups could search for people interested in certain projects or genres. The same goes to groups looking for members. The whole thing would be a flexible consolidated version of the recruitment forum, with searching functions, that would be easier to use and wouldn't put people off. But again, I'm not sure if you want to add these types of things to MU.

I've been following this discussion for awhile and I think there's some potential for this. Although, the way it sounds of giving people a choice as to what series they would like to participate in still reminds me of the Recruitment section. Plus, some people would use Manga Updates' search function to look for series that they are interested in but not everyone does that. I've seen some groups where they easily post in the Recruitment section of any manga site without checking who is currently working on what.

I don't know how lenient the Recruitment section is about having non-scanlation members post there asking to be recruited by a scanlation site. Franky-House and Manga Helpers have people all the time asking to be picked up but they never requested on what series they would like to do except in a certain scanlators' thread. I'm pretty sure MU would allow that already.

But, I like the idea of showing some kind of status as to what is being worked on or planned on.

I'm working on opening a new scanlation site. The thing is, I'm a one person team. I'm not going to be recruiting anyone and I won't be using IRC. So, there is probably no other way to let people know what projects I'm working on except through word of mouth. ^^; I'd be looking for readers and not members. 🤣

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I love this idea.
how about in the whole "Groups Scanlating" Section, it just says:

Group X (Future Project)

And on the Groups page where it says current projects, it can say "Future Projects" in brackets and whatnot. Maybe in bold/italics to make it stand out?

Or something like that. No need to make it so complex. -_- Time stamp would be nice but not really necesaary. A group can go to the group's website and ask themselves if they're still planning and whatnot.