No offense, but Japanese isn't meant to be pronounced by English speakers... not at all. 🤢 The irony of it, that Japanese is the most popular in those countries.

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No offense, but Japanese isn't meant to be pronounced by English speakers... not at all. 🤢 The irony of it, that Japanese is the most popular in those countries.

yeah, Japanese isn't meant to be pronounced by those non Japanese speakers!

wait, what? which country is Japanese most popular in?

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

Well, weeaboos are mostly present in the US (and other English-speaking countries), since the manga/anime distribution is much more advanced there than in other countries. Like in my country, no one even knows what the term 'manga' contains. Hence that I say that Japanese (the original language of manga/anime) is more popular in those countries.

Also, English speakers pronounce 'e' differently than for example the Dutch. Actually they pronounce it as how Dutch people would pronounce 'i'. I don't really know the whole linguistic term for how you call that thing, but when a natural-born English speaker tries to say a Japanese word they usually butcher it. 🤣 Unless they've trained themselves in it, of course.

Well, that's my take at least.

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Well, weeaboos are mostly present in the US (and other English-speaking countries), since the manga/anime distribution is much more advanced there than in other countries. Like in my country, no one even knows what the term 'manga' contains. Hence that I say that Japanese (the original language of manga/anime) is more popular in those countries.

Also, English speakers pronounce 'e' differently than for example the Dutch. Actually they pronounce it as how Dutch people would pronounce 'i'. I don't really know the whole linguistic term for how you call that thing, but when a natural-born English speaker tries to say a Japanese word they usually butcher it. 🤣 Unless they've trained themselves in it, of course.

Well, that's my take at least.

really.....really? I don't think most of America or England even know those anime/manga. I mean seriously? I didn't even know what it was until a friend of mine said "Yo, you should read gundam, It's WAY COOL!" I knew he was a loser but now I know he is a loser otaku. Of course I never even touched gundam. The fact he loves it means it's baddd!!! 😲

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

Whenever anyone does this around me, I slap them.

HARD.

EDIT: The only exception is if someone needs to describe something and they have to use a Japanese word.

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i dont in RL 'cos my friends won't understand it anyway they just understands the word konnichiwa and kawaii. I almost died when i told my teach that i'm learning japanese and he started to say japanese words it sounded funny the way he say it lol. But i mix finnish and vietnamese when i'm speaking to my parents its just that my vietnamese isn't that great although I'm vietnamese. i'm always answering to my mom that "I don't know go ask my sister"

I think the poll is too biased.
Its either you use it all the time or you wont use it because it's dorky. =\

Anyway, I use japanese words to describe various things.

And What was it about English Speakers shouldn't be speaking japanese? Because their pronunciation on words are "different" and not all pronunciations are the same as japanese, saying that they can't or shouldn't speak it is BIASED.

why does it seem like everyone is insulting them. :[

I figured I'd put in my 2 cents (it's really just 2 cents 🙂 )
Just about the tangent of manga/anime being popular in North America relative to the rest of the world, I'm in Germany at the moment and am a little surprised at the available selection -- I didn't see Hayate the Combat Butler here, but on the other hand, I saw Parallel, DNA^2, Shinshunki Miman Okotowari among others which I haven't seen in North America as well as having more chapters available of certain series (Inuyasha comes to mind). France and Italy (from what I've seen online) seem to have at least comparable selections to North America (if not better).

I feel doing it to a limited extent is fine. I mean they use tons of English words in Japan, usually badly, I think turn about is fair play. Some of you seem to forget that English has already accepted some Japanese words into it's vocabulary, as well as words from just about every other language. Words like Tsunami, Samurai, Ninja, Typhoon, etc are all words used rather regularly in English. The latest is just the newest wave of words to hit English. Some will be accepted into it and some will fade away, it's a living language and as such is always evolving and changing. Go back a couple hundred years and tr to talk to a native English speaker, chances are you would have a fairly difficult time communicating. That being said, I feel those that endlessly repeat Japanese words because it's the "cool" thing to do are mindless sheep that need to get a life.

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And What was it about English Speakers shouldn't be speaking japanese? Because their pronunciation on words are "different" and not all pronunciations are the same as japanese, saying that they can't or shouldn't speak it is BIASED.

why does it seem like everyone is insulting them. 🙁

It was not meant to insult, it just is; for example, let's take the name sasuke. Normally you speak it out like sa-su-ke. But according to English pronunciation rules (whatever those are), they make the second u silent, turning it into just 'sas' and then have the last part 'ke' transform into 'kay'.

Bleh, it doesn't really matter though. You can't help it if you can't pronounce something correctly. It is completely taken out of context though when you suddenly use a Japanese word in an English conversation, it just doesn't fit in there. Unless you're talking about terms which have no English equivalent.

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And What was it about English Speakers shouldn't be speaking japanese? Because their pronunciation on words are "different" and not all pronunciations are the same as japanese, saying that they can't or shouldn't speak it is BIASED.

why does it seem like everyone is insulting them. 🙁

It was not meant to insult, it just is; for example, let's take the name sasuke. Normally you speak it out like sa-su-ke. But according to English pronunciation rules (whatever those are), they make the second u silent, turning it into just 'sas' and then have the last part 'ke' transform into 'kay'.

Bleh, it doesn't really matter though. You can't help it if you can't pronounce something correctly. It is completely taken out of context though when you suddenly use a Japanese word in an English conversation, it just doesn't fit in there. Unless you're talking about terms which have no English equivalent.

Actually, Doc, many native Japanese devoice the "u" in Sasuke as well, just like most drop it when saying "desu".

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Actually, Doc, many native Japanese devoice the "u" in Sasuke as well, just like most drop it when saying "desu".

Okay, then it's just me filling in that 'u' in my head, since that would be the normal Dutch pronunciation which I am used to. 🤣

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Actually, Doc, many native Japanese devoice the "u" in Sasuke as well, just like most drop it when saying "desu".

Okay, then it's just me filling in that 'u' in my head, since that would be the normal Dutch pronunciation which I am used to. 🤣

Lol, yeah I suppose so, in some areas of Japan they still pronounce the u every time, but it's a regional thing.

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Actually, Doc, many native Japanese devoice the "u" in Sasuke as well, just like most drop it when saying "desu".

Okay, then it's just me filling in that 'u' in my head, since that would be the normal Dutch pronunciation which I am used to. 🤣

The normal german pronounciation would be sa-su-ke as well, but was later on changed to just sas-ke.
But for most other cases it's ok to just pronounce the syllables as you would pronounce them in german (though the vocal length may be a problem in certain cases, especially the "u", which should be dropped in most of the cases)

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Actually, Doc, many native Japanese devoice the "u" in Sasuke as well, just like most drop it when saying "desu".

Okay, then it's just me filling in that 'u' in my head, since that would be the normal Dutch pronunciation which I am used to. 🤣

Lol, yeah I suppose so, in some areas of Japan they still pronounce the u every time, but it's a regional thing.

From what I learned in class, there are some cases where vowels take a softer roles, they are present but are very quiet and barely detectable, not noticable unless you're really fluent with the language.

Back on topic. No I don't use Japanese word in either real life or the internet unless in reference to the language or if the word has become part of the English language (e.g. Tsunami), I am refering to personal pronouns, or there isn't a translation (well... I still refer to manga as manga rather than japanese comics.... btw, is manga in the english dictionary 😕 )

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