Hmmm... I did see that you made that statement, I was just making my stance on it. And I believe I said that making money off of it was wrong. I definitely agree with that. But, putting it out on the Internet makes it fair game. You can't control who gets it once it's out there. The only way to do that is NOT post it, not translate it, not put it out there. That's my point. People will break the rules regardless of rules, consequences, and all else. People still trade music illegally, still download illegal copies of software, books, and movies, despite people being caught and fined. There are still people out there making money off of these things, regardless, just because it's nearly impossible to control a world of "abstract" people. Should it be done? No. I agree with you on that. But it can't be controlled. You can only depend on people being kind enough to ask/follow rules. And, most of the time, they don't. That's just the way the Internet goes...

actually translating and publishing comics in the us is not fair use since most us comic companies make sure that their rights includes that so they can license their comics overseas. the manga comunity also licenses their manga to be translated into other languages. anyone who tells you scanlation is legal is wrong; it is in a little gray area of the law and there's no reason for the publishers to go and bring it to international court (the company would loose more than it would win). If you are a scanlator be proud of the fact that you are a pirate and you can be upset when someone steals from you (its the unwritten code you just dont do that to people) watermarking is a douchbag move that should only be used to send a message when someone does something like take your scans/trans or upload them against your wishes.

Ha ha ha.
"We can troll if we want to.
If we don't, nobody will"

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At last, we're finished with this controversial chapter.
Back to what we do everyday. See you guys at the next show.

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I gotta know... HOW does it send a message? Please tell me. As far as I can tell, watermarking done continuously to "send a message" does nothing but piss readers off. I've stopped reading two groups for their outrageous and consistently annoying use of "heavy" watermarking. If that's the goal, then, bravo! Achieved! But I don't think it is, so I would love to hear how it works in practice rather than theory. I'm not being a douche here; I'm being serious. I would love some proof that it works.

You can go f-ck yourself instead of asking others to do so.

Manick and Lamb have shown that they are morally upright individuals, unlike you and your idol.

🙂 Thanks I try.

So you did laugh, eh?
Oh, so there are more release mods now? Is that it?
So if there wasn't allot of good release mods out there, they wouldn't have thrown him away?

P.S
matias067 may not have been as loyal as he should have been, but he was well dedicated to get the job done. Probably the most dedicated staff member mangaupdates ever had.

Because I quoted some superman script of some comic/animated show, doesn't make me a fanboy.
It just makes me knowledgeable enough to get people to understand where I'm coming from.

I'm trying to make people see what matias067 was really supposed to be seen as = a hero.

I'm not matias067. I'm me.

I know the details. You don't have to explain a whole damn summary to me.
So in the end, you f-cking hope that he continues to support BAKAupdates with reporting releases?

They've just embarrassed the guy in broad daylight. There is no way for people to know which release he reported. What he will do on MU won't even be recognized (not like it did in past on MU though). Now he's been humiliated and there is no way he can recover or regain better circumstances in regards to how he is looked at. His credentials as a previous staff member has been demoted to the lowest of the lowest, never to be recognized as someone who helped thousands of people read the manga that was so hard to grab from scanlation sources.

But to be seen as a loser and a lowlife.

I'm funny? That better be a compliment because you're not amusing.

So, is this about scanlators? or is this about publishers?
I guess if the publishers behaved exactly the same way that the scanlators behave towards matias067, mangafox, mangahere ....mangaupdates would be forced to ban scanlators/scanlation releases to their site.

Here is a list of releases he has reported.

http://www.mangaupdates.com/releases.html?act=archive&added_by=118339

Matias was a good staff release moderator, and I'm sad to see him go. However, he made his choice, and people consistently reported violations. There's not much we can do. Losing him will be a loss, but it's something that had to be done.

-m

Scanlators don't own the manga they release. They only edit the manga, it doesn't actually mean they have permission to behave that it is their own. Plus, the fact that they release it for the public to take, means that they are already willingly contributing aggregating sites. They may not want to, but it has already begun. They should just deal with it.

The "Batoto" website will NOT change a DAMN thing.

No, I'm not mad. I'm GLAD!!!!
Yes, go f-ck yourself harder.