Cool story bro. You wanna hear mine? It's a fairytale. Once upon a time, nobody gave a fuck. The end.

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Aunh~ Aunh~

amen bro. fucks not given.

The Deviant

I agree that this is the best sanction, but I've got the feeling that it solves the problem.
Well, the only thing a scanlation group can do is releasing a chapter page by page, this will give them trouble I guess (staff can impossible handle it, to update the stuff 17-30 times.)

Even after dead, we raise from the ashes for the sake of manga.

I think you are right. Matias deserves respect for what he did. Scanlators are just haters.

I think you should grow a brain.

How does it solve the problem? He's not banned off the site. He can still get scanlations and post them to aggregators without permission, only this time, not hampered by MU. It's all MU could do as a final resort to keep scanlators happy, but it's not necessarily fixing the problem. Rather, if I were him, and I was feeling vindictive, I'd do it with even more gusto, since nothing is holding me back at that point. Hmm... but that's IMHO.

That's right. However, he now has to do it sans his moderator powers. He could do it, but it would be easier if he still has the same level of access to updates as release moderators do.

If "scanlators are just haters" I wonder why you still patronize them by reading manga.

Don't feed the troll, guys.

Take it easy. I think she was just joking (I hope she was). As I was just joking.
I scanlate for 23 different groups. It is just funny to read replies on ridiculous controversial topics.

The truth of the who matter is that scanlators mainly want recognition for their releases on the manga they work on. Honestly, these online reading sites are there for good intentions, but they drag too much attention away from the real sources who actually provide their reading credentials. The problem is that most of these online reading sites fail to accept or respect the requests and circumstances that their main sources give them. These online reading sites ignore the responsibilities of keeping hold on what is right & wrong. These aggregation sites also ignore English & Japanese publishers who request some of their manga to be taken down. (Example: Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, etc.)

Do scanlators have the ULTIMATE right to tell these websites to stop distributing their releases to their reading public? The answer is no. The main reason is because scanlators are not in true ownership of the drawn material they release.

Are scanlators hypocritical to uploaders, online reading sites, and other fellow scanlation groups? The answer is yes. Although scanlators take extra effort to feed the manga fanatic hunger, they still fulfill a purpose which relates to almost any thief out there. Which is this: Doing things without permission, without authorization, without documentation, and without formal approval in regards to creators feelings.

Yes, some scanlators do gain permission from publishers, but that is only 1% of the scanlating population. So although aggregation websites also profit off the backs of scanlators - scanlators are also finding plenty of ways to do the same to publishers & creators.

Now, is making our own decision about our association with the scanlation community and these online reading sites really the answer to the solution? Doesn't everyone want someone to enforce the rules that must be ultimately followed? But then again, aren't rules meant to be broken? But I think if scanlators really want to be obeyed, they should gain permission from the publishers that are in charge of the manga they edit. They should also follow the examples of other watermarking scanlation groups (MangaStream, A-Team, Japanzai, XscansX). Also trying to get a message across. They have to provide links to publishing websites that provide the manga to buy or to creators website to show thanks. They can't take all the credit for themselves on the credit pages.

So in the end, the problem lies with how serious scanlators are willing to take their courage and shake the online reading foundation to crazy heights of recognition. they need to watermark their pages. ALL OF THEM. NOT JUST ONE. If not, no bad decision will be changed to a good decision.

...yeah, I'm going to reiterate a statement I made earlier: HOW does watermarking actually affect the aggregation? Explain this to me, please, I'm begging here. No one has told me HOW consistent and blatant watermarking solves this issue. Is there PROOF of this succeeding somewhere, or it just URBAN LEGEND? I mean, seriously, some scanlators have become ridiculous with this watermarking trend, and, from a leeching stand point, it DOESN'T serve its purpose. People still upload it. People still break the rules. People DON'T care, and watermarking it is nothing more than peeing on your "property." (I put that in quotes because, as you said, scanlators don't own it.) Seriously, I want proof that watermarking WORKS as a means of preventing unwanted distribution. Someone enlighten me. I'm not trying to be an asshole; it's just, as a fellow leecher, I have never seen it work. Ever. Please educate me.

Like basically any type of "insult," it depends on what the watermarking actually says.

I think it works....because the more people that complain about it, the more attention it get. How it actually affects people is another story though. I like how watermarks ruins the manga a bit, so people who wants to collect manga should actually go buy the real thing instead of just getting it for free and at a decent quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNDqAF03V8

Um, just in case that's directed at me, I buy a lot of hardcopy in Japanese and English. That's a "just in case." People complaining and people doing something about it are two different things. I can imagine the complaints, but it continues, both the watermarking and the sharing. So, even if people complain and whine, they are still doing what the scanlators' are trying to make them stop. It's an honor system, really. A sort of "Honor amongst thieves" is what we're going for. If people aren't honorable, then, they're not. Scanlation groups have even closed due to people STILL sharing regardless of their wishes, and it still doesn't work. It still doesn't stop the sharing. So, I can name groups where it doesn't work to back up my arguments... but it's hard to find positive proof of success. Well, MAYBE one... but that was obnoxious as hell, and, as a consequence, another group was formed to distribute that particular comic. It's funny, really. To quote Serenity, "You can't stop the signal." 😀