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Alright. Since you believe in evidence and reason, you should have no problem explaining to me in detail why pedophilia should be considered a disorder while homosexuality should not; And with "explaining" I don't mean telling me that organization X says so.
Pedophilia is an attraction to a group which, by their very nature, cannot give proper informed consent. Either for sex, or for any other sexual act.
Even for any romantic thing, things are massively unequal ...and the kids don't really understand notions of romance, anyway.
It is an attraction to a group that it is harmful to have any romantic and/or sexual relations with.
They cannot have a proper romantic and/or sexual relationship.
Any attempt they might make, to have a romantic/sexual relationship with someone they are attracted to, would unavoidably be harmful, predatory and abusive.
Homosexuality is no different from heterosexuality, aside from gender.
There are no issues of consent or any emotional or physical harm.
...not that you can't have homosexuals causing such harm, or having consent issues, but that is not a feature of the homosexuality itself and it is no different from heterosexuality. Homosexuals and heterosexuals (and bisexuals, of course) can have romantic and/or sexual relations, without any such issues, as is the case with most of them.
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Then state it again, I don't feel like searching for something you might have written half a dozen posts ago.
You don't feel like searching? Well I don't feel like repeating. How about that?
Besides, you'd try to deny it anyway, regardless of what group or person is mentioned and no matter the amount of evidence.
It's not like you've admitted that you were wrong about, for example, AfD. I showed clear evidence, you ignored it.
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I am sure you can tell me the dates and locations of a few of the demonstrations those people "sometimes do".
I could, but...
I'm getting tired of this off topic nonsense. You'd refuse to acknowledge any of it anyway.
Just google it. (not that you will, of course) It's not hard to find.
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Such as? It's about time you get to the point and specify your accusations rather than just talking in vague, unverifyable terms.
I have pointed to specifics before, and you didn't listen then. Why should I think that you will now?
Besides, it's completely off topic, so it's no good to go on for so long, about it. (which is why I've ignored/skipped some of your arguments, like on the issue of the supposed "cultural marxism")
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Bolded for emphasis. For someone who reportedly believes in "evidence and reason", you seem to have trouble grasping the concept of causality.
...and you seem to have trouble grasping the difference between things that are directly caused by something, and things that are very much indirect.
Also, you seem not to be able to compare like to like.
You say pedophilia isn't a disorder, if it causes no
direct discomfort to the pedophile ...all the while completely ignoring any and all
indirect issues.
Yet for a murderous psychopath, where there is no
direct discomfort, you insist on mentioning discomforts, that are
very much indirect.You are comparing apples to oranges.
All of this makes your argument... lets see...
Special pleading,
moving the goalposts,
false analogy (well, more like false anti-analogy)...
Speaking of fallacies, on the whole "the media sees anyone as racist if they wave a flag or speak against muslims" point:
"
Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated
regardless of contradiction." (emphasis mine)
Last edited by zarlan at 12:51 am, Nov 22 2014