When it seems that nothing drives the plot besides the drama/romance of brats.
& When it does the poses/word phrasing/etc cliches to make the characters seem "cool".

too much old people ... just a little dry and hard to relate

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another oen (only for manga released outside of japan) censorship: not the hentai one but other contents. Just noticed today when i bought DtVB 1 that the swastika on a german vampire was ereased. I know, we germans hat it to be considered as nazis, but this is a little to dumb. Here is the original page: [url]http://www.mangareader.net/825-36038-12/dance-in-the-vampire-bund/chapter-5.html[/url]

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i think as you become more of a mature reader
and you've read a pretty fair amount of manga

little things start to turn you off

such as art sloppyness, not enough detail, too much detail, tiny conversation bubbles with 100 words in them, pages congested with conversation...especially irrelevant conversation

why because i am the president of the student council of course

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not enough detail, too much detail, tiny conversation bubbles with 100 words in them, pages congested with conversation...especially irrelevant conversation

That might be the problem of translating a piece into another language, the limited vocabulary of the translator, or other the failings from the group.

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and I don't know you. Make sure it doesn't leave the building."[/color]

Reading this thread (and agreeing with so many of the posters) I kinda wish everyone could link to one manga that did NOT turn them off so I can track down said manga and read it.

sigh

In shoujo:

-whiny main character

-character whose one and only personality trait is being cheerful

-character who has an interesting personality for two pages (in which I actually start to get interested in the story) at which point they promptly drop any pretense of being anythign other than a flat cardboard bore

-characters who are overly interested in fitting in, such that they suppress all of their actual personality. this is fine if it is then shown that this is NOT a good thing but in mangas where doing this then gets them the boy EWEWEW.

-student/teacher relationship. basically, no. won't even pick it up. unless it's Oresama Teacher. =D

-love triangles in which I

1. can tell immediately who the girl is going to end up with and
2. completely don't agree with her choice.
   which is... almost every love triangle out there.

-The boy saving the girl. I've seen it done once or twice where it didn't make me wanna retch but usually it's so overdone, dramatic, dumb, sappy in a bad way, did I mention dumb... (Kaichou wa maid sama lost me by chapter 2, I think it was) (Tokyo Crazy Paradise forever won my heart by having him get stuck in traffic while on his way to save her. I didn't even mind him saving her in the end. Of course the fact that most of time it's her saving him also makes a difference)

-Main character where a huge deal is made about them being flat. Basically, I'm not, thus it's hard for me to sympathize, and the frst two times maybe it was interesting but by the tenth i was bored.

-Sexual harassment. It's not okay.

-Too much angst. This isn't a cut-and-dried rule... See Skip Beat for when I can stand it... If the angst makes sense and there's other things like le cough a semblance of an actual plot cough or humor than fine

-humor that isn't funny dear lord spare me.

-bad boy love interests. oh great, he's an abusive obnoxious lying jerky rapist, so romantic.

-love at first sight! URGH! okay, this can be done decently, as, say, /attraction/ at first sight. but having the character commit herself to stalking this man to the ends of the earth after all of two seconds = one hurled manga across the room

Shounen:

-there is no plot. there is just endless fighting and powerups. (hi, bleach)
-there is no plot. there's just a lot of girls and public baths.
-all the characters are made of cardboard. all the girls have stereotypical moe personalities and nothing else

• the series drags on way past the point when it should have been mercy-killed. (basically, shounen jump. with exceptions.)
  -there's a timeskip. all the characters reappear as stripper wannabes.

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[quote=Blique]...shoujo girls going after the bad boy...

LOL

I'm actually the opposite on that subject. The story is more believable when the girl does go after the bad boy. It's a fact of life: Girls love the bad boy.

How is it a fact of life that girls go after guys who treat them like accessories and look down on them? The female population isn't made up of masochists. Unless you have a different definition of "bad boy".

I can explain it to you...or, how about we meet and I can demonstrate it. I've got five days off coming soon and I haven't decided where to vacation. Or, you can come on down to Vegas when you get the chance. We'll hit the strip, where women from all over the world come to on a daily basis. You can try the whole respect them for minds and not look down on them tactic and I'll try it my way. Lets see who gets laid by the end of the day.

To your credit: A bad boy doesn't equate to a wife beater or a low life. It could be the class clown. The jock that egged the Science Teacher's home. The rebel who cuts class and smokes in the restroom. It's not the Badness of the badboy that women love and crave. It's the sexual confidence and what it possibly entails (Alpha male traits, ability to protect them and provide for them, the ability to lead men and other women) that women are attracted to. Oh sure, as women get older, they start realizing that a 'nice guy' is better for the long run (emotional stability, financial stability, loyalty...etc...) but while they're young, hot, and desirable, most women are out having mind-numbing dirty sex with the 'Bad boys.'[/quote]

uhhh...
"most women"?
Maybe the kind of women who go looking for one night stands in vegas, but I hardly think that's an unbiased sample.

The reasons I drop a manga after I've decided to give it a try:

Poor characterization. In a really good story, even the villain should have understandable motives. When I can't understand or sympathize with what the hero is doing, I lose interest. Though I loved Hot Gimmick by the same mangaka, her Seiten Taisei lost me because I could not see what the teacher was thinking by fooling with that girl.

Episodic drama. I don't mind episodic humor such as Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei or Saint Young Men. If it's a drama series, though, I like it to have a plot arc, and if after a while it doesn't appear to be going anywhere, I'll drop it, for example Jiraishin and EatMan.

No bishounen. Sorry but I am that shallow. If there's no eye candy it's really hard for me to follow the series, even if all the other elements are in place. Monster is a tremendously compelling manga, but if Tenma wasn't such a looker, I probably wouldn't be reading it.

In yaoi:
--Guys that look too young, too girly, or aren't good-looking enough. I love yaoi, but if one of the characters is obviously too young to give informed consent, I stop reading. I like both of the guys to look like men, albeit outrageously attractive men. 😃
--Plot-free sex. Yaoi literally means "No climax, no point, no meaning", but if it's only sex with no characterization or plot, I tune out. The best mangaka like NITTA Youka and MIYAMOTO Kano give us more to enjoy than just the naughty bits.

I have a pretty high tolerance for a stereotypical plot. It's what's done with it that counts. An original character, an unexpected plot twist, or beautiful art can lift a tired idea into something special.

Lameass, weakass,smallass, main character that acts big ot always trys to do the right thing. I quickly drop the manga.

Long ass story plot, like Naruto.

Bad drawings or sketchy drawings.

Indecisive characters.

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If the art is just too horrible to bear.
If the plot is cliche without any twists
If the main protagonist can't do ANYTHING (eg. useless, whiny, annoying, can't even defend him/herself)
If people fall in love for no reason at all (especially if it's someone they just met, and even more if the character is ugly because that takes away the only other plausible reason of 'an appealing appearance', I'm not trying to discriminate but I'm only trying to talk realistically) and love that doesn't make sense in general.
Just waaaaay too long, I refuse to read anything that's already over 500 chapters when I start it, but I'm one of those people who generally have to read everything till the end.
Too much ecchi, I NEVER read manga for ecchi, I mean they're friggen DRAWINGS and also I'm a girl and I'm straight so generally for me, it's just disturbing seeing panty shots. I only read ecchi manga if they have an OK plot.
I also tend to stay away from shounen/shoujo-ai because most of those story lines are too revolved about the relationships and don't have a story.
If there are overly long fighting scenes that shouldn't be there (so if the character just likes picking fights)
Stories in which the cast is too large or too many supporting characters become main characters, because I just get confused about who's who and when you're waiting that month/week for the next chapter you tend to read another manga and since the cast is so big, you forget who's who.

1.) NTR - i wish there was a unread function for that in my brain

2.) commodification - romance and sex as consumption goods, like it is depicted in nearly all Shojô Manga

3.) story and scope are clashing - e.g. Wolf Guy - Wolfen Crest (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=40128)

4.) rape - especially, if there are no repercussions for the rapist

Those are the worst turn-offs i can think of right now.

Ugly art

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Try-hard slapstick comedy.

When a male character's reason for doing something is "because I'm a man"... like in Bakuman, where "men have dreams women can't understand" and bullsh*t like that. I really don't like such blatant gender unequality, shounen manga or not.

I also cannot stand "falling in love with the rapist". I find that disrespectful in the extreme.

When there are no strong female characters. It's fine if not all of them are strong, but I can't relate to to them if they're all weak and wimpy. Especially if it's in a fighting manga of some kind and the women are supposed to be fighters themselves.

Extreme uke/seme personalities. It's too unrealistic, unless the two in question are explicitly shown to be in a sub/dom relationship.