Maybe it's cuz I read too much of the Wheel of Time series, but I don't see why polygamy is bad if all sides consent. If they're willing, why is it bad for more than two people to love each other? It seems to work out fine for the Muslims if one looks past their other sexist doctrines..

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Well you see...i am unsure about the ratio of men to woman in china and the population count of women or men. I guess karma worked it out for them to have a lot of females? :S
I mean.. because chinese families usually want males as their children probably to carry on traditions etc. if you get w ...

http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2011/06/20/chinas-demographic-gender-time-bomb/

"between 1982 and 2010 nearly 20 million more males than females have been born in China. There is no sign that this pattern will return worldwide norms. The number of excess males will continue to grow over the next one or two decades".

karma/nature has definitely worked against the Chinese in this matter.

What is more American than Archie comics? And that whole bunch is very much Archie + Betty/ Veronica/ random girl of the week.

Love triangles are like the bread and butter of romance stories... as for real life? Dunno.

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Maybe it's cuz I read too much of the Wheel of Time series, but I don't see why polygamy is bad if all sides consent. If they're willing, why is it bad for more than two people to love each other? It seems to work out fine for the Muslims if one looks past their other sexist doctrines..

See, there are 2 problems with this. the current one is the fact that in reality the number of hetro females is roughly the same as the number of hetro males, so if one male takes multiple females that leaves several other males frustrated. and young frustrated males tend to make bad decisions.

In the anime/manga/fantasy world females tend to out number males 5-10 to 1. and chainmail bikinis provide enough protection.

the other problem is well, mostly outdated but when men were the main bread winner (which they still earn more than females) its not really enough to support MULTIPLE wives for most people. so its sort of a crime of negligence since the other wives wouldn't be getting enough support.

a third problem is likely with the inheritance laws. Which can likely be re-written but without addressing that it opens a large can of worms.

Women don't typically want multiple husbands.

As long as everyone in the relationship is aright with it, how does it matter??

The problem with polygamy, for me, is that often when you see the harem they appear utterly brainwashed, like fundamentalists' children. Most wives are raised in an environment where it's thought that they should be in a polygamist relationship, so they don't know any different nor are they really introduced to other types of relationships.
Also, I think polygamists can get monetary benefits to having many spouses, which leads to abuse of the system--if I remember, correctly.
But if you can find a group that sincerely seem to be happy with that style of relationship, then I think it is perfectly fine.

Also, gay marriage does NOT lead to polygamy NOR is it equivalent.

Gay marriage leads to ---------------------> GAY MARRIAGE.

Here's a good video, even though I don't agree with all of its views. Especially at the 2:03 and 5:08 mark!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npB4XfBTICA

Go to work, send your kids to school;
Follow fashion, act normal;
Walk on the pavement, watch T.V.;
Save for retirement, obey the law.
Repeat after me: I am free.

I believe polygamy is a fruitless idea that destroys the whole institution of marriage. How can a person belong to more than one? Maybe since I firmly believe in the romanticized ideology with marriage, that polygamy/bigamy is sickening and pointless in my eyes.

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Most wives are raised in an environment where it's thought that they should be in a polygamist relationship, so they don't know any different

You can say the same for the rest of society, where men and women are raised in an environment where it's thought that they should be in a monogamist relationship, so they don't know any different.

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As long as everyone in the relationship is aright with it, how does it matter?

Exactly. If all sides consent, it shouldn't even be a matter of controversy, to be honest.

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I believe polygamy is a fruitless idea that destroys the whole institution of marriage. How can a person belong to more than one? Maybe since I firmly believe in the romanticized ideology with marriage, that polygamy/bigamy is sickening and pointless in my eyes.

If so, then gay marriage would also be a "fruitless idea that destroys the whole institution of marriage." and "sickening and pointless in my eyes."
So, people should ask for your permission in order to be happy? Just because YOU think that way EVERYBODY else's should follow your line of thought?

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I believe polygamy is a fruitless idea that destroys the whole institution of marriage.

didn't marriage begin with polygamy? it's in the Bible, Torah, and Koran. i think monogamy occurred later, but correct me if i'm wrong.

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didn't marriage begin with polygamy? it's in the Bible, Torah, and Koran. i think monogamy occurred later, but correct me if i'm wrong.

Actually, marriage has existed in some form way before any of the modern abrahamic religions.
Marriage, in essence, was nothing more than a contract between two people; the man would provide for the woman whilst the woman would provide the man with offspring. That is basically what marriage was about.
Polygamy was indeed permitted, but only for those who could afford to support several wives, the exact rules regarding marriage differed by region.
If I am not mistaken, it was Greece that first made marriage exclusively monogamous.

On the subject of gay marriage leading to polygamy, that is about as stupid an allegation as saying it would lead to bestiality. I am not even kidding, there are US politicians who have claimed this, some even in the republican primary. (just can't remember who, either Santorum or Romney.)
These people need to be slapped until they stop being stupid.

Do but despise reason and science,
The highest of all human gifts -
Then you have surrendered to the Devil
And must surely perish. - J.W. von Goethe

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These people need to be slapped until they stop being stupid.

Seems like it would end up counterproductive to repeatedly jar their brains. I propose a taste of their own "cure", and shock the f out of them till they think straight(pun intended).
Or just lock them in a controlled environment, and brainwash them to our way of thinking.. apparently if you work the god into it somehow this method is deemed acceptable practice

Few favs
Comedy:
Kyou kara ore wa!!, Mx0, Angel Densetsu, Skip Beat, Ai Kora, The Devil King is Bored

Romance:
Hana to Akuma, No bra, Shinigami Trilogy, kindan no koi de ikou, Usagi Drop, Threads of Time, Girl Friends

Most under rated:
Kindan no koi de ikou, kyou kara ore wa!.
m0r l83r... maybe >_>

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I believe polygamy is a fruitless idea that destroys the whole institution of marriage. How can a person belong to more than one? Maybe since I firmly believe in the romanticized ideology with marriage, that polygamy/bigamy is sickening and pointless in my eyes.

If so, then gay marriage would also be a "fruitless idea that destroys the whole institution of marriage." and "sickening and pointless in my eyes."
So, people should ask for your permission in order to be happy? Just because YOU think that way EVERYBODY else's should follow your line of thought?

hey now no need to be so defensive. everyone is entitled to their own opinion...this topic has everything to do with morals and ideals, and im sure you know that morals and ideals defer from person to person, so there are bound to be people who are against the subject matter

Well in the bible the first marriage was between Adam and Eve and blessed by God. Polygamy was allowed in the first testament mostly due to the importance of having sons. That was then banned on the arrival of Jesus and the new testament which states at 1 Timothy 3:2 the requirements for an overseer, that he should be a husband of ONE wife. I'm typing this on my phone so I don't have any resources at the moment but whatever. Anyway if you're a polygamist good for you I don't really care, I just couldn't grasp the need for such an arrangement.

Well, I'm pro gay marriage, but polygamy.....

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I can't wrap my brain around it.

^THIS.

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Love,
Pika.

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And you will murder someone one day, pika. If you're my daughter.

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You can say the same for the rest of society, where men and women are raised in an environment where it's thought that they should be in a monogamist relationship, so they don't know any different.

I didn't say they didn't 😉
Myself-- I'm never getting married.

Go to work, send your kids to school;
Follow fashion, act normal;
Walk on the pavement, watch T.V.;
Save for retirement, obey the law.
Repeat after me: I am free.