this is my first poll, so i dont know if it will work.

i think that Dark should be a genre, because it describes a manga FAR better than they currently are.

without going through my whole list, i will pic one manga this applys to, http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1598
Psychometrer Eiji

it has, this line in the description, but it just doesn't do it justice.

"A note of caution, this manga contains violent imagery and scenes. "

and i know that there are many other manga out there that dont have the Tragedy genre that are still very dark.

now in Psychometrer Eiji so far there has been (spoiler 1 is the things in the manges, 2 deals with the first thing, 3 deals with the second, and 4 deals with he third)

rape, murder, violence, now i know these are staples of a police things

the rape is of a friend and goes "unpunished"

murder of people know in the manga or start to like

now in manga in general there is violence, but this manga takes it form the its ok in a manga, to the point where its a bit hard to read

there is no genre that can describe this as well currently in place, and it is an important thing to know, because a manga doesn't start dark, or end dark its dark throughout, and Tragedy is more or less a sad end, not throughout the whole manga stuff that is just dark.

there are other manga out there that point out that there are dark and i will gladly put in more that i would attribute this proposed genre of Dark to, but i will leave with this.

the current genres are

Comedy Mystery Psychological Shounen Supernatural

the only warning is this

A note of caution, this manga contains violent imagery and scenes.

that warning prepared me for murders, not what is above in spoilers.

You can just make a tag, you know.

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a tag would be for something like, police, pirate, ninja, real world, that kind of specifics.

i have read a shitload of manga, so trust me when i say this, dark is an over all manga genre rather than a minor aspect that you would put in a tag.

Mature
Contains subject matter which may be too extreme for people under the age of 17. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

Adult
Contains content that is suitable only for adults. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity.

Smut
Deals with series that are considered profane or offensive, particularly with regards to sexual content

Tragedy
Contains events resulting in great loss and misfortune.

of those Tragedy comes closest, but its not used to describe a manga beginning to end most of the time, and in the past has had people try to remove it because the genre itself is a heavy spoiler.

a manga that is dark, is capable of haveing happy ends its just the over all theme is dark.

mature tells you it can be there
adult is mostly used for non porn manga with porn in it
smut is the josei equivalent to adult
tragedy tells you to prepare for sad end

but nothing tells you specifically that there is a heavy darkness to the manga.

I don't think it should become a genre...
All genres now are very specific... You can easily explain why a manga has, for example, a 'romance' or 'smut' genre by pointing out some certain events from the manga (just looking at pages where 'romantic' or 'smutty' things happen). But 'dark' is not very specific, it refers to general mood of the manga... and what one person considers as 'dark', the other may not.

lol

i'm surprised that you haven't introduce the "light" genre as a companion to "dark", because if there's a genre to describe the "heavy darkness" of a manga, then the natural follow-up would be a genre to describe all the manga with exceedingly happy stuff in them, right?

i maintain that this is what the whole category system is invented for

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i dont think dark should be genre.

if dark would be a genre, then you would also need a "happy" genre, a "mood changing" genre and so on.

It should be a category/tag. i would vote for that, but NO to genre.

A tag for something like "dark ambiance" or something would seem more appropriate. Like everyone said, every genre is pretty specific and "dark" really doesn't seem too specific. In response for the manga Psychometrer Eiji even though I haven't read it having the manga under the genre mature and psychological informs the reader that it's gonna be "dark" in my opinion. And making the genre for "dark" would probably cause some problems, 'cause then everyone may want something like "light hearted" and such.

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so how does one create a category "dark ambiance"?

Or can only the admin create new categories?

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so how does one create a category "dark ambiance"?

Or can only the admin create new categories?

I found it! This should be exactly what your looking for. You can add the series by clicking on "click here" underneath where it says "genre."

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lol

i'm surprised that you haven't introduce the "light" genre as a companion to "dark", because if there's a genre to describe the "heavy darkness" of a manga, then the natural follow-up would be a genre to describe all the manga with exceedingly happy stuff in them, right?

i maintain that this is what the whole category system is invented for

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i generally lurk until i have something to say, or to add.

but what you are saying is stupid. im no moron, adding light, because you don't need it.

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i dont think dark should be genre.

if dark would be a genre, then you would also need a "happy" genre, a "mood changing" genre and so on.

It should be a category/tag. i would vote for that, but NO to genre.

again no you wouldn't

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A tag for something like "dark ambiance" or something would seem more appropriate. Like everyone said, every genre is pretty specific and "dark" really doesn't seem too specific. In response for the manga Psychometrer Eiji even though I haven't read it having the manga under the genre mature and psychological informs the reader that it's gonna be "dark" in my opinion. And making the genre for "dark" would probably cause some problems, 'cause then everyone may want something like "light hearted" and such.

they are all specific? ill list all the ones as "bad" or worse than dark

Adult - vague
Fantasy - good genre but also vague
Historical - very vauge, at least if not more than dark
Mature - this one is more vauge

thats just one side and i left out the demographic genre's i can do the other side too, but its more of the same.

and also, there is a line that a manga crosses before it becomes dark.

mature and psychological to me dont state dark in and of themselves, especial when paired with Comedy and Shounen.

and because its hard to tell if people are taking this seriously or mocking me, would picking up a manga that is, lets say light hearted, happy in tone, or anything make people not want to pick it up? in all likely hood no, however when crap like what i have in the spoilers happens, id say alot of people would hesitate to pick it up.

I get why you think that dark would be a good genre, but imo genres are meant to be vague and "dark" would make a better category. For example, Comedy is a very vague concept and is thus a genre encompasing several different styles of comedy including "dark comedy" and "slapstick comedy." Since "dark" is more of a specific mood that can occur within any given genre, it would make a better category than genre.

I think dark is better as a tag. As the post before mine stated, genres are meant to be somewhat broad and vague while tags are more specific.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea of a "light" category. Maybe you think it's useless, but I've seen many "looking for" requests asking for lighthearted manga. Anyway no one said you had to add it. It's just that some would say dark is no more of a genre than light. By the way, just because people disagree I don't believe anyone is mocking you.

Well, I doubt the mods will be adding dark as a genre. If it makes you feel better other categories have been denied as genres. For all practical purposes the "dark ambience" tag should be good enough.

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A tag for something like "dark ambiance" or something would seem more appropriate. Like everyone said, every genre is pretty specific and "dark" really doesn't seem too specific. In response for the manga Psychometrer Eiji even though I haven't read it having the manga under the genre mature and psychological informs the reader that it's gonna be "dark" in my opinion. And making the genre for "dark" would probably cause some problems, 'cause then everyone may want something like "light hearted" and such.

they are all specific? ill list all the ones as "bad" or worse than dark

Adult - vague
Fantasy - good genre but also vague
Historical - very vauge, at least if not more than dark
Mature - this one is more vauge

thats just one side and i left out the demographic genre's i can do the other side too, but its more of the same.

and also, there is a line that a manga crosses before it becomes dark.

mature and psychological to me dont state dark in and of themselves, especial when paired with Comedy and Shounen.

and because its hard to tell if people are taking this seriously or mocking me, would picking up a manga that is, lets say light hearted, happy in tone, or anything make people not want to pick it up? in all likely hood no, however when crap like what i have in the spoilers happens, id say alot of people would hesitate to pick it up.

There was no mocking you in what I wrote, I was commenting on the subject of the topic. Sorry you took it the wrong way. Just as waftingwish said, I don't think anyone is mocking anyone.

Anyway, I think everyone has a valid point. I've never seen "dark" or "lighthearted" before as genres, not like that couldn't be changed, but I still think they are better off as tags or categories. The tags best describe the manga we are reading and seem to fit better as they are.

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IMO the Mature genre pretty much covers it...

i wasnt calling to out specifically with that it was more just the end of the post and your quote was quited last.

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IMO the Mature genre pretty much covers it...

mature, in the sense that i see it, and how its used, doesn't describe dark, it describes an over all tone.

Mature
Contains subject matter which may be too extreme for people under the age of 17. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

violence, blood and gore, if it was a game, it would just be a M rating, if that makes sense, it doesn't say dark there. (edit: think of most action manga a T, i think that helps to make this comment make more sense)

sexual content and/or strong language, who is to say that the sexual content isn't 2 consenting adults, and that scene has a few panels longer than needed.

and strong language, i doubt there is anything that gets mature just for that.

the way that i see genres is they are modifiers.

lets go this way. as an example

i want an Action manga with Adult themes and a Mecha focus.

now beyond that there are tags that are overly specific. such as, an i will grab 4 manga at more or less random, and comment on them

* 4-koma - specific type of manga  
* Adapted to Anime - things about the manga  
* All Girls School - manga setting  
* Band - overly specific thing  
* Clubs - generic specific  
* Music - in many other places a genre of its own  
* Childish Appearance - character discription  
* High School - setting of manga, or character age  
* Otaku - specific character type  
* Demon/s - specific character type  
* Princess - specific character type  
* unorthodox male love-interest - specific character type  
* Adoption - thing about manga  
* Award-Nominated Work - thing about manga  
* Award-Winning Work - thing about manga  
* Child Care - overly specific manga topic  
* Childhood - age of characters  
* Neighbors - ok if i didnt know the manga this was from i would be wondering why that was there  
* Quirky Character - specific character type  
* Slapstick comedy - specific type of comedy

and just so i know and i suppose to defend dark is specific, or that it is vauge?

because its specific enough that you know what you should expect, and its also vauge enough that it isn't in any way spoiler. and as a genre modifier i think it works better than as just a tag, because a tag to me is something overtly specific, while a genre is more of an over all. and i think that dark is a better over all than a tag, because think of it, if you tell a friend about a manga or something like that its usually the genres first, and when ever i do i warn them if its dark or not.