London riots
14 years ago
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@Brucie_kun people on the internet are saying that the riots outside london arent as bad as the ones in london and the police have it slightly under control
It is still worrying, it feels unsafe to go out anymore. I just hope the riots [lawlessness?] will die out soon.
apparently they refuse to send the army to stop them because it sends out the message that this is out of control
because you see,the situation is perfectly controlled [/sarcasm]
i swear just a few hours ago the riots where only in london and birmingham...this is insane :S
It would be bad for the econemy if they bring the army into it especially on your own soil. More people are getting arrested and more police are on the streets now I just hope it starts dieing down soon.
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here's one way to analyze the situation: too many angry people + fire = mass destruction.
D'oh!
14 years ago
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The riots happening now have nothing to do with the protest. It's called 'oppurtunistic violence'. Whenever there is a peaceful protest chavs (the scum of the earth in the UK) start rioting looting attacking the innocent people, buildings, police etc. Same thing happened when students were peacefully protesting against university fees rising.
This. England always had a surplus of hooligans that now have a chance to 'shine'.
Another thing that makes me wonder is that I've seen more articles about how 'the princess wore the same dress 2 times' then about these riots.
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14 years ago
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There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
14 years ago
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There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
He may of never even fired a shot at the police that's why there was a protest because his death was thought to be unjustifiable and they wanted answers.
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There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
You can't be sprouting shit like this when you don't know any hard facts.
I've heard that actually, through current investigations on this, it's possible that he didn't shoot at the police officer.
the-burden's link explains it well.
14 years ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYuMPw6Yi3k&sns=fb
A Malaysian student got robbed by the rioters. I feel sorry for him, his parents would be horrified watching this. How could people be so cruel??
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14 years ago
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it won't last long. simply because the public won't put up with it. the only reason why some are managing to get away with attacks is because the police have standards where'as these fools don't. if it doesn't stop someone is going to go too far and it might force he police to take their gloves off.
14 years ago
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There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
You can't be sprouting shit like this when you don't know any hard facts.
I've heard that actually, through current investigations on this, it's possible that he didn't shoot at the police officer.
the-burden's link explains it well.
I retract my statement given the new evidence that was not available until a few hours ago. My statement was made of the evidence given before this new revelation.
I do have to question why he was carrying a gun and what he did to cause a cop to shoot him twice. I know there are real dicks in the police forces all over the world but you had to have done something to get a cop to shoot you twice. I'm not saying what he did justified the shooting him but it's not always only the cop's fault.
As for the rioters they are stupid and when you protest not matter how righteous the cause there will be stupid people who join in and I think you have to account for that when you decide to protest. I'm under the impression that the riots are either still going on or last quite some time and if that is the case then there is other underlining reasons for the riots besides simple hooliganism and made that should be looked into.
Oh in addition if you carry around a gun capable of firing live ammunition then you should expect that you could get shot, after all you're carrying the gun mostly likely to shoot someone for any reason, even self-defense. Of course if he showed the gun to the cop or made movements toward it he is going to get shot.
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There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
You can't be sprouting shit like this when you don't know any hard facts.
I've heard that actually, through current investigations on this, it's possible that he didn't shoot at the police officer.
the-burden's link explains it well.I retract my statement given the new evidence that was not available until a few hours ago. My statement was made of the evidence given before this new revelation.
I do have to question why he was carrying a gun and what he did to cause a cop to shoot him twice. I know there are real dicks in the police forces all over the world but you had to have done something to get a cop to shoot you twice. I'm not saying what he did justified the shooting him but it's not always only the cop's fault.
As for the rioters they are stupid and when you protest not matter how righteous the cause there will be stupid people who join in and I think you have to account for that when you decide to protest. I'm under the impression that the riots are either still going on or last quite some time and if that is the case then there is other underlining reasons for the riots besides simple hooliganism and made that should be looked into.
I don't think I heard he raised his gun towards the cop. I think I remember hearing that the cop felt "threatened" though. This is all speculation though. We still don't know what really happened 100%, so really there's no point arguing over this until we get some hard down facts.
These riots are no longer protests. It's basically a mob of people attacking everyone. Although I still think this should be looked into, about why this escalated so badly and other underlining reasons behind the riots. I just hope they don't pass it off as 100% hooligans and not change anything, because things need to change.
14 years ago
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[quote=switchgear]There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
You can't be sprouting shit like this when you don't know any hard facts.
I've heard that actually, through current investigations on this, it's possible that he didn't shoot at the police officer.
the-burden's link explains it well.I retract my statement given the new evidence that was not available until a few hours ago. My statement was made of the evidence given before this new revelation.
I do have to question why he was carrying a gun and what he did to cause a cop to shoot him twice. I know there are real dicks in the police forces all over the world but you had to have done something to get a cop to shoot you twice. I'm not saying what he did justified the shooting him but it's not always only the cop's fault.
As for the rioters they are stupid and when you protest not matter how righteous the cause there will be stupid people who join in and I think you have to account for that when you decide to protest. I'm under the impression that the riots are either still going on or last quite some time and if that is the case then there is other underlining reasons for the riots besides simple hooliganism and made that should be looked into.
I don't think I heard he raised his gun towards the cop. I think I remember hearing that the cop felt "threatened" though. This is all speculation though. We still don't know what really happened 100%, so really there's no point arguing over this until we get some hard down facts.
These riots are no longer protests. It's basically a mob of people attacking everyone. Although I still think this should be looked into, about why this escalated so badly and other underlining reasons behind the riots. I just hope they don't pass it off as 100% hooligans and not change anything, because things need to change.
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Yeah i read the same article that the cop felt threatened I would like to know why he felt threatened. I hope they investigate it instead of just passing over it and covering it up.
I hope they don't just blame hooligans as well but I can see them doing just that and simply arresting a couple thousand people and calling it a closed case rather than finding out why all these people decided to become a mob. A mob doesn't just form for the hell of it, they usually have a common interest or reason. What the police and politicians have to do know is weed through the hooligans that are the face of the mob and find that reason.
14 years ago
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[quote=tactics][quote=switchgear]There should never have been protests in the first place. You shoot at a cop he is going to shoot back its common sense. it's not the cop's fault you missed but how is he supposed to know you aren't going to try again. People are just stupid.
You can't be sprouting shit like this when you don't know any hard facts.
I've heard that actually, through current investigations on this, it's possible that he didn't shoot at the police officer.
the-burden's link explains it well.I retract my statement given the new evidence that was not available until a few hours ago. My statement was made of the evidence given before this new revelation.
I do have to question why he was carrying a gun and what he did to cause a cop to shoot him twice. I know there are real dicks in the police forces all over the world but you had to have done something to get a cop to shoot you twice. I'm not saying what he did justified the shooting him but it's not always only the cop's fault.
As for the rioters they are stupid and when you protest not matter how righteous the cause there will be stupid people who join in and I think you have to account for that when you decide to protest. I'm under the impression that the riots are either still going on or last quite some time and if that is the case then there is other underlining reasons for the riots besides simple hooliganism and made that should be looked into.
I don't think I heard he raised his gun towards the cop. I think I remember hearing that the cop felt "threatened" though. This is all speculation though. We still don't know what really happened 100%, so really there's no point arguing over this until we get some hard down facts.
These riots are no longer protests. It's basically a mob of people attacking everyone. Although I still think this should be looked into, about why this escalated so badly and other underlining reasons behind the riots. I just hope they don't pass it off as 100% hooligans and not change anything, because things need to change.
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Yeah i read the same article that the cop felt threatened I would like to know why he felt threatened. I hope they investigate it instead of just passing over it and covering it up.
I hope they don't just blame hooligans as well but I can see them doing just that and simply arresting a couple thousand people and calling it a closed case rather than finding out why all these people decided to become a mob. A mob doesn't just form for the hell of it, they usually have a common interest or reason. What the police and politicians have to do know is weed through the hooligans that are the face of the mob and find that reason.[/quote]
it Could all be that most of these people don't have an once of respect for any authority. Whether it is police, teachers, PM's or Parents. all those taking parts are someone son/daughter, brother and so on. there is no more respect for authority anymore and this could very well be the reason for opportunist idiots to do this.
I guarantee you that there will not be a reason for this anarchy but a lot of excuses about, race, economy, peer pressure or council housing. say these are excuses because they will not improve anything it will more likely make things harder for the working class.
14 years ago
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They need to get the army in or at least introduce rubber bullets, all the police are doing is pushing them away to other areas.
14 years ago
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They need to get the army in or at least introduce rubber bullets, all the police are doing is pushing them away to other areas.
You do realise how bad it would be for our econemy if the army got involved? Countries would not want to invest into the uk if we're looking as if our country has gone under which it hasn't despite how bad it looks. People really don't understand how bad it is to put your own army into action on your own soil.
14 years ago
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They need to get the army in or at least introduce rubber bullets, all the police are doing is pushing them away to other areas.
the police haven't even taken off their gloves why get the army? it's not like guns are being fired and people taken hostages. It's a simple looting that money can fix. just who is going to pay for it is the question. the police are working over time as well.
