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15 years ago
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I do have a question though....why didn't Inoue just heal Ishida? Will this be something that her reversal powers don't work on (possibly making her even more useless to the story)?
Ryuken's theory was that whoever attacked Ishida would also attack Orihime right? Whoever that was may be able to sense their special "type" of non-shinigimi/non-hollow reiatsu. Having Orihime use her powers may have just put her in more danger allowing this "attacker" to lock onto her. And considering that Ishida was still alive, he may have served as bait specifically for someone like Orihime. Another possibility is that Ryuken didn't allow Uryuu to heal Ishida so that he can analyze the wound and learn more about the attacker. Of course I'm assuming that Kubo has this all thought out, but that has historically been false.....
Actually, I was kind of thinking that Ishida was wounded to get Ichigo to come to him and ask for help, similar to the Vizards. Just to show him that he is powerless at this point. This group knows about Ichigo's family, so I'm guessing that they already knew all about Inoue.
Uhh... Hello? aren't we analyzing this alittle too much? i mean Ishida chased the guy first. who knows? Ishida might not have gotten hurt at all if he had left the guy alone? so maybe they aren't targetting anyone? and ryuken is just miss-analyzing it cuz Ishida hasn't told anyone about anything, including the fact that it was him that chased after the runner. so Inoue or Chad might not be targeted at all? it was only Ryuken's Analysis that seems misleading and says that people are being targetted. but keep in mind he's using only 4 premises
- Ishida got hurt really badly
- the attacker had a strange human like reiatsu
- Quincy's are type of human creatures
- chad and inoue are also Type of human creature
that certainly does not = chad and inoue will get hurt.
because there is no premise saying that they will hurt all humans that have a strong reiatsu.
and just because Ishida got hurt really badly, we can't assume that other human reiatsu users will be hurt too. that's like saying "1 person got hurt by a man or a group of men called X so every single person will also be hurt by a man or a group called X" it doesn't make sense?!
to me it just doesn't make sense to come to the conclusion Inoue and Chad will be targetted
15 years ago
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[quote=orpheus17]I do have a question though....why didn't Inoue just heal Ishida? Will this be something that her reversal powers don't work on (possibly making her even more useless to the story)?
Ryuken's theory was that whoever attacked Ishida would also attack Orihime right? Whoever that was may be able to sense their special "type" of non-shinigimi/non-hollow reiatsu. Having Orihime use her powers may have just put her in more danger allowing this "attacker" to lock onto her. And considering that Ishida was still alive, he may have served as bait specifically for someone like Orihime. Another possibility is that Ryuken didn't allow Uryuu to heal Ishida so that he can analyze the wound and learn more about the attacker. Of course I'm assuming that Kubo has this all thought out, but that has historically been false.....
Actually, I was kind of thinking that Ishida was wounded to get Ichigo to come to him and ask for help, similar to the Vizards. Just to show him that he is powerless at this point. This group knows about Ichigo's family, so I'm guessing that they already knew all about Inoue.
Uhh... Hello? aren't we analyzing this alittle too much? i mean Ishida chased the guy first. who knows? Ishida might not have gotten hurt at all if he had left the guy alone? so maybe they aren't targetting anyone? and ryuken is just miss-analyzing it cuz Ishida hasn't told anyone about anything, including the fact that it was him that chased after the runner. so Inoue or Chad might not be targeted at all? it was only Ryuken's Analysis that seems misleading and says that people are being targetted. but keep in mind he's using only 4 premises
- Ishida got hurt really badly
- the attacker had a strange human like reiatsu
- Quincy's are type of human creatures
- chad and inoue are also Type of human creature
that certainly does not = chad and inoue will get hurt.
because there is no premise saying that they will hurt all humans that have a strong reiatsu.
and just because Ishida got hurt really badly, we can't assume that other human reiatsu users will be hurt too. that's like saying "1 person got hurt by a man or a group of men called X so every single person will also be hurt by a man or a group called X" it doesn't make sense?!
to me it just doesn't make sense to come to the conclusion Inoue and Chad will be targetted[/quote]
Xecution(?) wants something from Ichigo! First they place some seeds of doubt with the whole 'you don't know your family' thing and now they are attacking his friends to raise his anxiety. Plus I wouldn't knock the Doctor, he is a smart fellow...
Even if Ishida may not have been hurt if he didn't follow the stranger that doesn't mean that the stranger isn't a shady character. He was on the roofs of the town doing something, something that he was willing to kill or harm another to keep a secert.
PSTSCRPT "1 person YOU KNOW got hurt by a man or a group of POSSIBLE EXTREMIST men called X so every single personYOU KNOW will also be hurt by a man or a group called X" It makes perfect sense!
PSTPSTSCRPT Don't use so many question marks, it makes you look doubtful and if you don't believe your words how do you expect anyone to.
An instant or an eternity. Both are the same, in the passing of an instant lies the beauty of eternity.
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15 years ago
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Looks like Kubo still has pacing problems, since this chapter could have been just half a chapter...
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15 years ago
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[quote=true_grave_unit][quote=orpheus17]I do have a question though....why didn't Inoue just heal Ishida? Will this be something that her reversal powers don't work on (possibly making her even more useless to the story)?
Ryuken's theory was that whoever attacked Ishida would also attack Orihime right? Whoever that was may be able to sense their special "type" of non-shinigimi/non-hollow reiatsu. Having Orihime use her powers may have just put her in more danger allowing this "attacker" to lock onto her. And considering that Ishida was still alive, he may have served as bait specifically for someone like Orihime. Another possibility is that Ryuken didn't allow Uryuu to heal Ishida so that he can analyze the wound and learn more about the attacker. Of course I'm assuming that Kubo has this all thought out, but that has historically been false.....
Actually, I was kind of thinking that Ishida was wounded to get Ichigo to come to him and ask for help, similar to the Vizards. Just to show him that he is powerless at this point. This group knows about Ichigo's family, so I'm guessing that they already knew all about Inoue.
Uhh... Hello? aren't we analyzing this alittle too much? i mean Ishida chased the guy first. who knows? Ishida might not have gotten hurt at all if he had left the guy alone? so maybe they aren't targetting anyone? and ryuken is just miss-analyzing it cuz Ishida hasn't told anyone about anything, including the fact that it was him that chased after the runner. so Inoue or Chad might not be targeted at all? it was only Ryuken's Analysis that seems misleading and says that people are being targetted. but keep in mind he's using only 4 premises
- Ishida got hurt really badly
- the attacker had a strange human like reiatsu
- Quincy's are type of human creatures
- chad and inoue are also Type of human creature
that certainly does not = chad and inoue will get hurt.
because there is no premise saying that they will hurt all humans that have a strong reiatsu.
and just because Ishida got hurt really badly, we can't assume that other human reiatsu users will be hurt too. that's like saying "1 person got hurt by a man or a group of men called X so every single person will also be hurt by a man or a group called X" it doesn't make sense?!
to me it just doesn't make sense to come to the conclusion Inoue and Chad will be targetted[/quote]
Xecution(?) wants something from Ichigo! First they place some seeds of doubt with the whole 'you don't know your family' thing and now they are attacking his friends to raise his anxiety. Plus I wouldn't knock the Doctor, he is a smart fellow...
Even if Ishida may not have been hurt if he didn't follow the stranger that doesn't mean that the stranger isn't a shady character. He was on the roofs of the town doing something, something that he was willing to kill or harm another to keep a secert.
PSTSCRPT "1 person YOU KNOW got hurt by a man or a group of POSSIBLE EXTREMIST men called X so every single personYOU KNOW will also be hurt by a man or a group called X" It makes perfect sense!
PSTPSTSCRPT Don't use so many question marks, it makes you look doubtful and if you don't believe your words how do you expect anyone to.[/quote]
they are POSSIBLE EXTREMIST this could mean they may not be extremists at all. we don't know enough to assume that. and even if its someone you know that got hurt by a group of people how does that lead to the conclusion other people you know will get hurt too? hypothetically speaking, if someone we knew got hurt by a serial killer, it doesn't mean everyone we know WILL get hurt by the same person. it could just be that 1 person that you know that gets hurt.
Also, how do we know if Xcution and the man who was reading a book while in town that hurt ishida are together? i think i've seen this done in other story lines as well. where a mysterious group shows up plants doubt and we find a man that hurts the main cast. but it could turn out that Xcution and the man that hurt ishida are enemies with each other. we know absolutely nothing about Xcution and that guy that hurt ishida. for all we know they could be possible allies, or possible enemies.
ALSO! i mentioned ishida might not have gotten hurt if he had never chased after the man. and yes the man is incredibly shady and suspicious. but he may not have targetted ishida as a person to kill he may have just attacked and pummeled him because ishida was chasing him. yes i totally agree with you both the group Xcution and the man is extremely shady. and its because they are shady that we know nothing about them, so we can't assume anything yet. including the conclusion Inoue and Chad will be targetted.
15 years ago
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I'm getting tired of all the suspence, it feels like a diferent manga.
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inoue and karin moments were the best! The rest...boring.
Are you guys for real? This arc is 100x more interesting than anything in the 'Aizen is a broken God arc'
Nor is 'We don't know who our enemy is arc' that much fun.
The only action so far was Ishida getting slashed. I know Kubo is trying to get the whole suspense thing going, but he should pick up the pace instead of wasting pages for pointless things.
15 years ago
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Highlight of this chapter was definitely...
Yuzu possibly having a brocom~
15 years ago
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they are POSSIBLE EXTREMIST this could mean they may not be extremists at all. we don't know enough to assume that. and even if its someone you know that got hurt by a group of people how does that lead to the conclusion other people you know will get hurt too? hypothetically speaking, if someone we knew got hurt by a serial killer, it doesn't mean everyone we know WILL get hurt by the same person. it could just be that 1 person that you know that gets hurt.
Also, how do we know if Xcution and the man who was reading a book while in town that hurt ishida are together? i think i've seen this done in other story lines as well. where a mysterious group shows up plants doubt and we find a man that hurts the main cast. but it could turn out that Xcution and the man that hurt ishida are enemies with each other. we know absolutely nothing about Xcution and that guy that hurt ishida. for all we know they could be possible allies, or possible enemies.
ALSO! i mentioned ishida might not have gotten hurt if he had never chased after the man. and yes the man is incredibly shady and suspicious. but he may not have targetted ishida as a person to kill he may have just attacked and pummeled him because ishida was chasing him. yes i totally agree with you both the group Xcution and the man is extremely shady. and its because they are shady that we know nothing about them, so we can't assume anything yet. including the conclusion Inoue and Chad will be targetted.
Aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. You yourself are over analzying now. A 3rd person party is possible and the appearance of the sauve man from Xcution and the man who attacked Ishida could just be at the same town nearly the same time for plot purposes. So if it is a 3rd party and not Xcution(the name itself and the convient time of Ishida attack is suspect) then it just proves that Chad and Inoue are targets. They would be the big bads in this arc that want something to do with the special reiatsu people. Plus just because the guy Ishida chased didn't engage doesn't mean anything, a trap, a feint, playing possum are basic tatics in combat.
Xcution guy see's some amazing power in Ichigo, the same one Ishida said he felt for a moment, and wants it or his help or blah. I'm sure with reasonable confidence it is something like that.
PSTSCRPT I always forget something! Your serial killer comparison supports me! If a serial killer targets a friend(a person with a weird reiatsu) then his MO would be reiatsu people who all happen to be your friends like Inoue and chad. Lol this is kind of fun.
An instant or an eternity. Both are the same, in the passing of an instant lies the beauty of eternity.
-Ginen Shounen
Because I am a small man, my heart is moved by what's in front of my eyes, not by what the whole world needs.
-D.Gray-man
15 years ago
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I'm not liking Ichigo's sisters.
One is becoming a bitch(in my opinion) and the other? I don't even....
15 years ago
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I'm not liking Ichigo's sisters.
One is becoming a bitch(in my opinion) and the other? I don't even....
Is there any particular reason!!
