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I agree with all you say, bro.
But come back when you're a scanlator and actually know what you're saying.
Love this line of logic, do you also think you can't say a manga's bad because you're not a mangaka?
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Hm... that's some silly stuff you're spouting there Jigero(not just the quoted part
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). What if scanlators were to pick up that "Who the F*** cares?" motto and just release LQ chapters, or worse nothing at all? What would you read then?
You missed my point, My point was bitching and getting mad about a site that does not effect you or your fans at all in any negative way. then proceeding to take it out on your fans is just retarded.
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Speaking as a scanlator i can only say that i don't give a rat's ass about the money earning part, I've got plenty of income from my own job for that. The thing that pisses me off is that we work our asses off and sometimes spend hours on a single chapter just to get it out nice and clean and then we barely get any thanks from the fans cause they use an online reader and don't even bother visiting our website.
Again who cares, You have your loyal fans, you have people who come to your site. The people who use mangafox don't effect you negatively in the slightest. If anything it makes more people aware of your work and who may eventually start visiting your site after they become more aware.
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So in the end we work for free to bring you guys all your favorite mangas in as good a quality as possible and the manga readers get all the fans posting on their forums and all the cash revenue made from the ads. That just sucks.
Who cares how they view your work, if they want to view it that way let them it's their loss not yours. Does Adobe come to your house and take away your copy of Photoshop because you're using it to clean illegal scans of manga instead of editing photos like it was intended or even complain about it?
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We're not in it for the hundreds and thousands of fans, we're not in it for the money, we're not in it for any other reason than releasing manga that nobody else would release like we do.
If that's true, then you have nothing to complain about.
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Oh, and another thing... don't badmouth us about this when you're probably fully aware that you wouldn't like somebody else stealing your work just to profit from it. Nobody likes that. Deny it and you would only be a hypocrite.
But your idea of "stealing work" is like a burglar complaining that another burglar stole the stuff he stole and then fenced it.
my idea of "stealing work" as a graphic designer is literal money out of my pocket. So sorry I can't sympathize with you.
Sure not getting thanked is regrettable but then again who cares, your doing this for your fans, who will thank you and your fans aren't the ones who are passing off your work as their own.
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I dont agree with groups punishing fans either, but mangafox shouldnt be allowed to exist. theyre basically profiting off tons of mangakas works! that's what is irritating. it gives the whole scene a bad name. like we're taking authors work and making a profit.when the internet popularity of anime and manga is what got it to its fame here in the states in the first place. No group wants their work contributing to that. Admittedly, what scanlation groups do isnt really legal, at least we dont profit off of it.
I'm pretty sure the Mangaka would find scanlators just as damnable as mangafox. also there are plenty of Scanlators that make money off ad revenue on their sites and ask for donations or do commissions.
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To the Jigoro troll who posted like 2 posts in total...say what?! 2 posts, lolz
I love how people think "oh some one has an opinion I don't like there for they are a troll"
Also really? Using post count to legitimatize some ones argument? do you also plug your ears and scream "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" when ever some one proves you wrong too?
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To the site-admin...or was it site-mod: Please stop acting like a typical leecher, it's embarrassing. No, we know that scanlating is illegal. The difference is that we do not earn anything on it. If anyone should earn on it, it should be the mangaka, right? That is what we are bitching about. That there's someone out there earning on what we do for free.
My group got no donation button on our site. I'm against all form of earning money on someone elses work. Our work on each and every chapter is: We clean, we translate and put in the text. We release and let people who can't enjoy the manga because they can't Japanese be able to enjoy it.
Saying that this is how the world works only shows the people doing it that it's alright because you aren't fighting back and just give up. That's the same as putting you down and just waiting to die...that's just to sad
If this was a murder investigation, and the mangaka was the victim, Scanlators would be screaming to the cops " WE ONLY SHOT HIM IN THE GUT, MANGAFOX WAS THE ONES WHO KILLED HIM I'M INNOCENT RIGHT!?"
If you really care about the mangaka so much STOP SCANNING THEIR WORK.
Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the work you guys do, just stop pretending your some kinda modern day robin hood absolved of any wrong doing, because you're not. You're an evil just a necessary one.
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Stop thinking that if one scanlator group dies then another can take over. Stop thinking that we will find in whatever you throw in our heads. Stop thinking that the title will eventually get picked up. Stop thinking we will continue scanlating manga for you when you never visit us and give of any gratitude. It just doesn't work that way...it never did.
So go ahead and stop, no one is telling you not to, your obviously scanning for the wrong reasons. If your just gonna have a hissy fit because of something that doesn't directly effect you and abandon and piss off your loyal fans, what the hell are you doing here?
This is a hobby bro not a job, I build Gundam models because I like it and it helps me waste time, I don't do it so all my friends will praise me and think I'm all cool cause I paint really well, and I don't quit doing it just because a couple people didn't complement me on them. If you're just doing this to get praise and internet notoriety and your not enjoying it just quit man.
Last edited by Jigero at 3:10 am, Aug 8 2011