People who use computers are not musicians?
14 years ago
Posts: 830
Personally, I prefer real instruments but I'm biased since I play one. When I studied music, though, we studied lots of different types, including experimentalism (which can be the most random stuff,like modern art. I swear, there is one piece when the orchestra pick up their instruments and hold the pose for 5 minutes and then put them down. It's called 5 minute silence and is considered one of the best pieces of experimental music, without even a note being sounded!)
Anyway, I diverge, I have studied a lot of music and I have to say that computers can be just as much a musical instrument as a voice is. I think the difference comes when someone knows what they are doing. I can play a flute, that doesn't mean I can compose an amazing song.Just like someone who can use the software can't always make great music. Whatever your tool, it comes down to raw talent.
The pen is mightier than the sword...and considerably easier to write with.
14 years ago
Posts: 2707
you can be a musican if you use computers. There are many people who can´t sing or play an instrument but if they are capable enough they can make great songs on the computer. And if you listen to melodies which where made on computers or if you listen to some vocaloid song you can´t say that these people are not musicans
Member14 years ago
Posts: 37
Arbitration should really depend on the quality of the content that emerges from computerized projects. If people find the differences between computer generated music imperceptible from instrumental(digitally enhanced) music, there's little point in criticizing somebody based on the tools they use.
14 years ago
Posts: 326
I think they are certainly still musicians. Anyone who makese music effectively is a musician. However, I think there is a certain beauty that is lost in translation from real instruments to digital creation of sound. Effort and toil and emotion are going out the window in much the same way that pencils have been made obsolete in terms of writing because computers prove to be (complex, but) easier to manage. Something is lost - a kind of beauty, I think, and a much more personal interaction with one's medium, but I think it's still music, and it takes all kinds.
14 years ago
Posts: 846
Uhm, he must not have heard of music software like Sibelius which are used by professionals for arranging say... orchestral pieces(the type you hear in Hollywood movies).
Frankly, why would anyone bother to write and arrange their score by hand these days? It's such a goddamn pain especially when you got part of the timing wrong. So, you're supposed to re-write it all again and again? Writing score by hand is okay for non-complicated pieces but when you're talking about pieces with more than 3 to 6 instruments all going on at the same time, plus a damn chorus, I don't think anyone wants to go through that ordeal, thx. 😛
Even all the professional musicians I used to know, whether they created modern music or not, all preferred computers 'cos of the ease of recording, of creating that standard of sound quality everyone's used to, etc.
Btw, I've recalled a certain well-renown music artist who heavily works with computers. Enya 🙂
14 years ago
Posts: 47
Quote from Alaena Night
I think they are certainly still musicians. Anyone who makese music effectively is a musician. However, I think there is a certain beauty that is lost in translation from real instruments to digital creation of sound. Effort and toil and emotion are going out the window in much the same way that pencils have been made obsolete in terms of writing because computers prove to be (complex, but) easier to manage. Something is lost - a kind of beauty, I think, and a much more personal interaction with one's medium, but I think it's still music, and it takes all kinds.
You just havent heard any electronic music which is able to create those feelings evidently. People like Brian Eno, David Sylvian and a score of others are able to make hard hitting beautiful music using electronic means.
