Instead of posting a note regarding the title change, shouldn't we treat Trigun and Trigun Maximum as seperate titles?

I know that TM continues Trigun, but doesn't that put TM in the realm of a Sequel of sorts? (As for example, it could be Trigun 2)

I ask because i've read all of Trigun, but only four volumes of TM, however both Trigun and TM link to TM, so I cannot add Trigun as a Complete manga.

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Personally, I think leaving the way things are is perfectly fine. Let's see what other people post...

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It makes perfect sense the way it is.
The author never intended the name changes and doesn't intend to put any form of distinction between both... just some legal stuff keeping him from doing it his way.
Story wise I don't remember any kind of element that would make you think that they aren't the same series...
So... Simply put? I agree with lambchopsil.

I agree with Stealth and lambchopsil. The way it is is the best way.

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It makes perfect sense the way it is.
The author never intended the name changes and doesn't intend to put any form of distinction between both... just some legal stuff keeping him from doing it his way.
Story wise I don't remember any kind of element that would make you think that they aren't the same series...
So... Simply put? I agree with lambchopsil.

Except for the fact that Trigun Maximum volume one restarted off at chapter one and is called "Hero Reborn", right? I am emphasizing "Reborn".

There is clearly a time skip between the original and the new series (Over two years, in fact. The last volume of the original states Vash forgotten and not really seen again in that time), it makes sense to make seperate entries and state they're related.

What if someone reads Trigun, but doesn't (or can't) continue, and they still want to put it as finished, they'd be unable to do so.

I think this may not be a big deal to some, but, they're technically considered seperate titles due to legal and publishing reasons. It makes sense to put them seperate, doesn't it?

As another example, Lone Wolf and Cub and Shin Lone Wolf and Cub are seperate titles, yet one does take place after the other. By the reasoning that they're the same because they're related, doesn't that mean that these two should be combined into one title?

Another would be No Need For Tenchi and All New Tenchi Muyo. One Continues the other, but they're seperate. It just makes logical sense.

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I'll chime in just to say Kaioh isn't alone.

I think it should be 2 different series, because if they are counted as the same series, then we have two different chapter counts. That of which one may have to figure out if they were to put it on their "reading list". (I wonder which count Maximum7 uses?)

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I'll chime in just to say Kaioh isn't alone.

I think it should be 2 different series, because if they are counted as the same series, then we have two different chapter counts. That of which one may have to figure out if they were to put it on their "reading list". (I wonder which count Maximum7 uses?)

Im pretty sure Max7 counts them as seperate, they always post the chapters as Trigun Maximum, just just Trigun, also, the chapters are based on the actual chapter of Max that they are supposed to be.

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Except for the fact that Trigun Maximum volume one restarted off at chapter one and is called "Hero Reborn", right? I am emphasizing "Reborn".

There is clearly a time skip between the original and the new series (Over two years, in fact. The last volume of the original states Vash forgotten and not really seen again in that time), it makes sense to make seperate entries and state they're related.

A time skip doesn't necessarily mean a new series you know... Just as much as a continuation wouldn't automatically mean it is the same.
There are a good number of manga with a time skip without actually considering that a new series.
Easiest one to remember now is Naruto (well the anime considers it something new while the manga kept it the same way). Berserk also contains several time skips but is still just one manga. Death note is also another one (the time skip is the start of a new arc) etc...
I've never read Lone Wolf and Cub, so can't say...
But seriously legally wise you are right they are different series with different publishing companies. BUT I think it's best to respect the author wishes. And I think I remember that he stated that he never intended the name change and consider both trigun and trigun maximum as the same series.
Well I don't have the info right now and I might be mistaken...

NOTE: And about the title reborn, I always though the author chose that title on purpose. As in Trigun is now reborn with a new publisher etc... And doesn't really relate to the story... He probably even changed his initial script a bit to get it to relate a bit.
(Well this is just my speculation)

i agree, if it werent for some legal issues the author ran into it would still be the same manga

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It's confusing if we group them into the same name. Evil Empire separated them.

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I think they should be seperated also. I read Galaxy Angel and during that time, there was a change in publishers or something so they had to change the name to Galaxy Angel Beta. Even if it is the same story and all, it should have it under the correct naming.

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the author wanted it to be all trigun, but he couldnt. so they are two stories now. bear with it, as the author does. i dont like it either
anyway you put it, trigun maximum is a sequel to trigun

They are 2 series with diferent names and both start volume count from 1. so they sould be separeted.

the fact that they are direct sequels doesnt change anything. theres a lot of direct sequels in everythin from manga to tv series, to movies. and it would be wrong to group them, watever the reason. its not a decision we should make. the information of the series should be shown as it is in reallity.

the FACT is that they are not the same series.

it would remain like this even without the time skip.

the fist time i went to get info on trigun in this site I became really confused because of grouping them together.

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Trigun is Trigun. Trigun Maximum is Trigun. They are the same story and I think they are fine as one. Just cuz you want it to look complete, when really only half is complete, is no excuse. Whatever the Author wanted is irrelevant, same for publishing companies. Same story = same story.

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um, separate, with heavy emphasis on the circumstance in the description/summary?