New Poll - Yaoi vs. Yuri
10 years ago
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If only you could see my folders...
If only you read those stories...
I'm female btw, since the poll wants to know.
10 years ago
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Pansexual (I don't care about gender) female; my world revolves around slash and BL. o/
Not even exaggerating, tho.
Lol, I suppose us fujoshi are more ubiquitous than I thought. I like yuri and all, but good yuri is damn near imposible to find; I myself only know 3 worthwhile titles. And while there's a crap ton of terrible BL out there, there's some great stuff out there.
My tastes tend to veer off into darker and more twisted territories, and slash fic and BL has an abundance of that~
10 years ago
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The correct term is Boys' Love. The term "shounen ai" is outdated and refers to an old genre of sad melodramatic shoujo manga where the boys are girly looking and asexual, and it usually ends in tragedy. In Japan, "shounen ai" just refers to pedophillia. (That said, the terms "yaoi" and "bara" are also misconstrued in the English-speaking fanbases. Yaoi mostly only refers to the smutty porn-without-plot gay doujinshi, and "bara" is a slur equivalent to "pansy".) Rather than "yaoi", just "BL" works better, while gay comic artists just call their work "gay comics" (gei komi) or "Mens' Love" works too.
You can find most of this information on wikipedia.
10 years ago
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I personally don't read BL for the smut at all. Since I'm a girl without a D, I can't find cis gay male smut relateable, and thus can't get off of it. I'd take the 24 volume epic fantasy gay romance over smut, every time.
Lol, rape/abuse in BL isn't really easier to avoid. So much apology rape, and it's everywhere. The "No-no-no-yes" formula is terrible, though I suppose KSB to be the exception that pulled it off (somehow).
As for stuff like DRAMAtical Murder, it's mostly unapologetic about most everything including rape, so forgiving that isn't even relevant. (W/e, Clear's routes are the only worthwhile ones for me).
I think it's just easier to stomach for many of us since men don't have as much history/frequency of being raped or physically abused by their partners. Gender roles are also usually not a factor, so...
Apology rape just shouldn't be tolerated in general, especially when romanticized.
10 years ago
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Queer as Folk is just damn wonderful. Goddamn shame about the cancellation.
Ai no Kusabi is pretty meh. Though it's only an OVA, I like Tight Rope best (as well as the manga).
I couldn't get into Banana Fish at all. For more realistic BL, Kyuugou's work is pretty great--the oneshot "Reply" is my fav of hers. Mizushiro Setona's Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese was a bit overmelodramatic, but I loved it. The best BL-like titles I know with all-around quality I know are No.6 (novel, preferably) and most of Sugiura Shiho's works. I generally dislike older BL titles, as they tend to be excessively cheesy.
I think Girl Friends and Collectors were the only GL titles I really enjoyed... The art looks kinda.. er, but I added Honey & Honey to my reading queue.
10 years ago
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Citrus has great art, but god it was goddamn awful. It was an even bigger disappointment than Akuma no Riddle.
10 years ago
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Female, and I love (non-supersize) futanari. Bible Black, mmmmn.
10 years ago
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Edit: tthrrrrp. Never mind me then.
.... beside agreeing with this:
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I love (non-supersize) futanari. Bible Black, mmmmn
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@Baniita the queen of posting: Male manga/comic characters have a surprisingly high tendency to be sexually abused too. The definition of "manly men" Aculard + Guts are victims of homosexual rape. Over the pond we have Batman/Superman who were "only" reverse raped but still. This are the 2 biggest heroes ever and 2 seinen icons. Case closed. Then we have Spartacus on Starz (Caeser!) and Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones. Even mass market videogames like Far Cry 3 and MGS: Ground Zeroos jumped on the train and failed abysmally recently. We live in some "edgy" times and over saturation can only lead to being numb to what comes next.
I should have said that i also like Tokyo Babylon but that is OG Clamp and they are like Joss Whedon and make everyone "bisexual". A bit like Touchwood.
Even Buffy tried out to be a lesbian in the canon season 8 comic for one arc but then she also wanted an abortion in season 9 but then it turned out that she was a Buffy-Bot (don´t even ask). Quality i say. So my final opinion is this: No more sales stunts!
Rape or sexual experimentation or whatever as "high drama" is bottom of the barrel and even the best writes like to jump down that rabbit hole. Hello Alan Moore!
Edit: Baniita´s pick NightS is a decent read and i up-voted Realistic Homosexual Relationship/s but the author needs to branch out more.
I also read EU/US comics and am a librarian.
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10 years ago
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How about we, for once, NOT turn this into a discussion about rape?
10 years ago
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Well, my gender is outside the binary so I don't feel like I can vote this time.
10 years ago
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Unholy fucking god, please stop with the chain-posting.
It's actually fine in the News forum since it has a tree view
A just ruler amongst tyrants
10 years ago
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Oh, that's right. I always forget about that viewing mode. I tend to use the normal forum look even for the news feed threads and thus forget about the alternative.
10 years ago
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I enjoyed the FAKE-ova, and the Gravitation and Yami no Matsuei-anime, but those had actual stories. I don't like looking at guys being "friendly", but the story always takes precedence amd I rooted my ass off for the couple in Gravitation at the end.
But I voted neither, because I'd rather have my romances be standard guy/girl. Two guys - too much dick. Two girls - a lack of dick.
(A sidenote regarding the results of the last poll - "Haha, well, aren't you all a bunch of supersmart people. Compensatory narcissism. Lol.")
