I wish they wouldn't, but the sad fact of life is that many mangakas have changed their storylines, pairings, etc. based on polls and other opinion-stuff.

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I have heard/read that in Hana Yori Dango, Kamio Youko originally intended Tsukasa to be a side character, but due to reader response changed the plan & made him the lead. No idea if it's true, but it seemed like a credible source at the time.

It does make sense for mangaka to at least know what the readers are thinking. Even if they don't change anything major, I can imagine cases where the readers might not really "get" what the mangaka was doing in a particular scene/sequence/whatever, so they might include something else in a later chapter to make sure the point gets across. Or maybe reader response is that a particular character is really mean, and the mangaka may think, "Ack, I didn't intend for him/her to come across as being THAT mean..." and change how they write the character a bit.

To change a story based on how a character develops seems like a such a waste.Regardless of how the writer wanted the character to be, if they end up another way, and then they try to correct that won't it just make a story worse. And then to do that because some fans complained... that's retarded.

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It does seem like that at certain times.

Like in Naruto, I bet that Kishimoto was really going to kill Hinata. But then with the collective rage of Hinata fans worldwide on the net (and quite possibly TONS of letters being sent in), Kishimoto decided to bring her back. If that's true, then that last-second decision was pretty stupid seeing how he had Nagato bring everyone that he killed back to life in the end. 🙄

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Just because someone's head was chopped off doesn't mean they're dead. That's just silly.

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Thats not really... true There have been lots of situations where they DO kill people fan bases didnt want dead Gatchaman comes to my mind. Theres this blue one guy that died and at the end

they even kill the white one that was changed in the next series tho.

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It does seem like that at certain times.

Like in Naruto, I bet that Kishimoto was really going to kill Hinata. But then with the collective rage of Hinata fans worldwide on the net (and quite possibly TONS of letters being sent in), Kishimoto decided to bring her back. If that's true, then that last-second decision was pretty stupid seeing how he had Nagato bring everyone that he killed back to life in the end. 🙄

Someone was talking about madara/tobi

madara is over 150 years old and in one of the lastest chars he said he used the skill pain used to revive those killed in konoja for him so.. with that and the fact that he doesnt seem to have a real body... you cant rule out Yet that kishimoto can go in a future and say madara was using obito's body lol. Kishimoto plays safe and i found it the hard way with the "3 sharingan users left" he likes to leave some really small lose ends everywhere to help with futher changes/developments.

Lawlz I completely forgot about Hinata (she was dead for like 5 chaps) and Kakashi.

I know Akira Toriyama wanted to Vegeta to die at the end of the Saiyan Arc, but due to the massive amount popularity Vegeta gained, he decided against it. In fact, I think a lot of people were supposed to die, but then came the mighty convenience of the dragonballs. 🙄

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I have heard/read that in Hana Yori Dango, Kamio Youko originally intended Tsukasa to be a side character, but due to reader response changed the plan & made him the lead. No idea if it's true, but it seemed like a credible source at the time.

PERFECT example. Yes, Rui was actually supposed to be the male lead of Hana Yori Dango, but the fan popularity of Tsukasa ended up getting Rui pushed to the sidelines.

Despite the fact that there are a ton of characters in the series, I'm sure it's also no coincidence that the mangaka of Bleach somehow always manages to get the most popular characters involved in the storyline...

It's also a well-known fact that if a series is popular, the magazine it runs in won't let it end, even if that's what the mangaka wants. (Dragonball was supposed to end after the Freeza saga, for instance.) Editors also have a lot of influence on the direction a series will take--forcing mangakas to add more fight scenes, etc. if they think that's what the fans want. (Hitman Reborn morphing from a gag manga into a bishonen fighting manga was totally the mangaka's own decision...)

So yeah, given all that, why would it be far-fetched to think that the fans have direct influence on the plot of a series? I don't think Shonen Jump runs all those character popularity polls and whatnot just for their health...

if mangakas did tht...than naruto mangaka should hav killed Sasuke cuz not many ppl like him now anyways lol...well i dont 🤣

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I'm pretty sure they do. The fact that CLAMP has said in interviews that they make a point to not change their stories based on opinion polls probably means that its a pretty common practice to follow the polls rather than not. It sounds crummy, but I bet if you're a mangaka of a long-running shounen series and you're not sure which direction to take the story those polls are actually a lot of help. (I still wouldn't want to do it, though. "Don't like my story? Well then, you don't have to read it! HA!")

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It's also a well-known fact that if a series is popular, the magazine it runs in won't let it end, even if that's what the mangaka wants. (Dragonball was supposed to end after the Freeza saga, for instance.)

If I recall correctly, it was supposed to end way earlier than that, right when Pilaf first collected the dragon balls. But yeah, those polls, letters, volume sales and other things make editors decide whether the series should go on or not. Some mangaka are powerful enough to do whatever they want, despite what editors say (Like Yoshihiro Togashi), but most of them have to listen to what the editors want or else.

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It really depends on the individual situation, I think...

I've seen free talks where the mangaka writes something like "Thank you all for letting me continue my story right up to the end!" (popularity allowed the story to continue to the planned end rather than ending abruptly?); I've also seen things like "I'll be sad to say goodbye to the characters as well, but this is the way I've always intended the story to end" (ending as planned rather than stretching it out even though fans want more?) as well as "How will it all work out...I'm not quite sure myself!" (mangaka doesn't have the story planned out yet?).

Mostly I read shoujo, which may suffer less than shounen from It's-Popular-So-It-Must-Continue Syndrome. 🙄

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It really depends on the individual situation, I think...

I've seen free talks where the mangaka writes something like "Thank you all for letting me continue my story right up to the end!" (popularity allowed the story to continue to the planned end rather than ending abruptly?); I've also seen things like "I'll be sad to say goodbye to the characters as well, but this is the way I've always intended the story to end" (ending as planned rather than stretching it out even though fans want more?) as well as "How will it all work out...I'm not quite sure myself!" (mangaka doesn't have the story planned out yet?).

Mostly I read shoujo, which may suffer less than shounen from It's-Popular-So-It-Must-Continue Syndrome. 🙄

I actually think shoujo suffers the most. A lot of times mangaka will be "asked" by their editors to change their stories before they go into serialization, mostly due to what will be more marketable. Marmalade Boy is the only one that comes to mind atm. Almost all of the chars genders were reversed and the ending was changed.

And it's funny how CLAMP mentions not catering to fantagonism (terrible pun 😐 ) when their biggest series is complete fanservice. 🤣

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^take a closer look at her comment, it was specifically related to length, Most, though not all, of the more popular shoujo series barely pass 8-12 volumes, while shounen quite frequently runs much longer. It's hard to say if that is, in fact, specifically related to popularity, but it's pretty hard to deny the possibility.

And the process you're talking about pretty much happens all over the business, not in any one demographic- it's a standard editing practice. It's just that shoujo manga tends to have those little author's notes all over the place where these situations are quite often made light of. Other demographics have those more infrequently, or at least feature them less prominently.

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Good God, I hope not! I thought all mangakas had their stories planned out from the beginning and stick to it? 😕

Some are good enough to have the story planned out from the get go, Oda from One Piece has stated that he already has the ending worked out for the series, hence the quality and pace of the series hasn't dropped significantly at parts like naruto and bleach.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even though he has the ending planned out doesn't mean he's not changing things.

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Oda originally planned One Piece to last five years, and he had already planned out the ending, but he found himself enjoying the story too much to end it in that amount of time and now has no idea how long it will take to reach that point.[24] Nevertheless, the author states, as of July 2007, that the ending will still be the one he had decided on from the beginning and he is committed to seeing it through to the end, no matter how many years it takes.[25]

i don't but following the manga bakuman i discovered that there are manga artist that look for more of the oppinion of viewers and basically what sells

why because i am the president of the student council of course

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Editing a work before its even out doesn't count. That's still part of the brain storming and has no direct or indirect input from fans.

That aside, I don't think most changes are large. Toriyama was pulling Dragon ball out his ass. He didn't particularly want to end it after pilaf. It wasn't until the piccolo saga he did.

And I especially think its resistant when it comes to pairings. I seriously don't want to see that become an excuse for people. Sometimes the story might change based on what the author wants, not just fans. Strawberry 100% is a good example. I've seen some people say he ended up with the first girl, even though he actually ended up with the second, that he dated based on a misconception.