Why I Hate Harmonix Games

17 years ago
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Are you saying everyone who's playing guitar hero is doing something stupid?
Yes, I am.
I think that instead of choosing something constructive and of real value, choosing a similar thing with no value at all is a good definition of something stupid.
I'm stupid then. And so is my mom.
I think it's pretty arrogant and hypocritical to call other people stupid just because of the games they play. If they don't want to spend months learning to play a real guitar and instead opt to playing a fake guitar for just an hour of their day, let them be. It's like saying we should just do the 500-meter dash in real life instead of playing a simulation of it in the wii. It just isn't the same. There's a certain fun factor involved that can't be replicated by doing it in real life.
The word we're looking for here is fun.
Everyone plays games for short term enjoyment. Some people just want that, and nothing else. And that's perfectly fine, be it in music games or whatnot. Real guitar takes real time and commitment to learn. Some people just want to have fun for an hour or two. My mom likes playing "Hit me with your best shot". It takes less than 5 minutes. Will she ever learn how to play the real guitar so she can play the song in actuality? Never. We're talking about 5 minutes here versus months of practice. Some things are for fun, some things are to be taken seriously.
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Get a band, problem solved
right, right. I because I remember how ridiculously easy it is to get a band. Getting a band and playing a party game with your friends. It's not the same. And you questioning my guitar playing skills? I'd rather not go into that.

17 years ago
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Because they're fun!!! And now I'm saving up to buy a drum set 😀
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17 years ago
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Now, now hate Harmonix not each other. I have yet to make a thread that has been locked. Dont want to start with this one.
Its fine to say you dont like the game and the reasons why, but to directly insult other people for enjoying the game is wrong and it leads to comments like the last few we've seen.
fallofkakashi you're excluded from that list since your last comment didn't directly insult anyone. You merely stated that you don't understand why people like play a pretend intsrument.
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owari333 you're excluded too cause you posted before me 😛
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17 years ago
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[quote=Razril]Are you saying everyone who's playing guitar hero is doing something stupid?
Yes, I am.
I think that instead of choosing something constructive and of real value, choosing a similar thing with no value at all is a good definition of something stupid.
Wow youre so right. i also like shooter games though. I guess i should just go out to apply for the army, and kill people in iraq. because the real life application of a videogame is just as, if not more fun, than the videogame.
also that would be constructive. instead of doing a stupid party game, having fun with my friends, i can learn to kneel in the dirt for hours, scared enough to piss my pants, until i finally see someone walk up, where he will either blast my head off or maybe ill manage to put a bullet in his eye at 100 yards.
Headshot!
How is murdering people and putting your life at risk constructive and of real value in any way?
And I'm quoting myself:
Quote from MajorMarmot
I like fantasy games, where you can discover unreal worlds; and war games, where you can shoot people with no social and legal consequences.
I should have added that you don't put your life at risk, but my point was that you can't do that in RL or at least it wouldn't be a wise life choice to try and do it.
And I stand with my definition of "stupid". It was a good one.[/quote]
im making the point that no videogame is constructive. they are for fun. basically exactly what razril just said. there is also just as much of a risk in making a band. lets say you go through all this work, practice for months, make a band, get on stage and then... you suck. you fail the song as guitar hero would say. maybe you messed up some notes, maybe stage fright. the crowd will know you suck and all the time will be wasted. or you could be playing guitar hero, and say "dude, i can just try again."
I don't get why you're comparing a real guitar with a guitar game. ._.
If you're looking for fun (with friends), guitar games are definitely the way to go. I'm not going to seriously learn how to play a guitar. o.O I'd rather play it just for fun with a friend.
There's an obvious difference between the two. =D They're on two different levels too. Playin a guitar is real life, guitar game is a game, in the end. Games are supposed to be fun, and real life is most of the time more bothersome than playing a game. ._.
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17 years ago
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Thank you TheRedSpade, Dr. Love. My sentiments exactly.
and Haiyeth, sorry bout that. I'm not trying to get your thread closed. I tried my best to make it as impersonal as possible, but being called 'stupid', I guess it struck a chord.

17 years ago
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okieee, well then, putting everything else aside, i don't really like games like that, but I'll play the singing ones to see what its like to sing in front of my friends.
i do like to sing, but i suck at it T.T

17 years ago
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Quote from Razril
Thank you TheRedSpade, Dr. Love. My sentiments exactly.
and Haiyeth, sorry bout that. I'm not trying to get your thread closed. I tried my best to make it as impersonal as possible, but being called 'stupid', I guess it struck a chord.
Understandable, Im just trying to stop things from escalating. Just try to remember this is an opinion thread so there is bound to be friction. Best to ignore it and move on. 😁
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17 years ago
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Quote from Dr. Love
I don't get why you're comparing a real guitar with a guitar game. ._.
If you're looking for fun (with friends), guitar games are definitely the way to go. I'm not going to seriously learn how to play a guitar. o.O I'd rather play it just for fun with a friend.
There's an obvious difference between the two. =D They're on two different levels too. Playin a guitar is real life, guitar game is a game, in the end. Games are supposed to be fun, and real life is most of the time more bothersome than playing a game. ._.
There may be a difference between the two but people like my friend who play guitar are going to compare it to the real thing
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17 years ago
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...i hate those games cause they don't really interest me.
plus, the music from all of them sucks.
i think there was only like, three good songs from all of those games.
Blasphemy!!!! There were three Black Sabbath songs on those games!
Raining Blood
One
Freya
Cowboys From Hell
Texas Flood
Pride and Joy
Spanish Castle Magic
La Grange
Freebird
Hangar 18
I can play all of the songs on my guitar.... except for hangar 18 and the freebird solo. And I still play guitar hero. So calling people stupid who play that game when they could play a real guitar is stupid.
And as far as getting a band, I have been looking for 3 months, and have yet to even find a drummer.
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17 years ago
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Quote from fallofkakashi
okieee, well then, putting everything else aside, i don't really like games like that, but I'll play the singing ones to see what its like to sing in front of my friends.
i do like to sing, but i suck at it T.T
Lol in a way karayoke is like Guitar Hero, your singing songs sung by famous singers. The only differance is no one cares if you suck cause its all good fun.
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17 years ago
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I dislike Guitar Hero, because you can't upload any songs to it from a CD.
And I freakin' hate Frets on Fire. It doesn't seem to work on laptops...TT_TT

17 years ago
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I dislike Guitar Hero, because you can't upload any songs to it from a CD.
And I freakin' hate Frets on Fire. It doesn't seem to work on laptops...TT_TT
That will be a good day in my opinion when you can upload your own songs (and not have to go through so much crap to do it). I'm tired of waiting for DLC, especially when most of the DLC are songs I don't care for to much
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17 years ago
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I like rock band cause when you play with your friends it's really fun. GH and RB are meant to be party games I think. RB more fulfilling than playing games like mario party or any other party games. I think rock band is a great party game and should be played in a party. playing RB alone is really boring.

17 years ago
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Quote from Razril
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Are you saying everyone who's playing guitar hero is [b]doing something stupid?[/b]
Yes, I am.
I think that instead of choosing something constructive and of real value, choosing a similar thing with no value at all is a good definition of something stupid.
I'm stupid then. And so is my mom.
I think it's pretty arrogant and hypocritical to call other people stupid just because of the games they play.
Yes, calling another person stupid, and specially a girl, would be a terribly rude thing to do, and calling her mom stupid, that's just wrong.
But....when exactly did I call you and your mom "stupid"
Quote from MajorMarmot
But playing a fake guitar in your room, when you could play a REAL guitar in your room, it's just plain stupid.
In this sentence I am calling the action of playing a fake guitar in your room "stupid"
Quote from Razril
Are you saying everyone who's playing guitar hero is doing something stupid?
Here you are clearly asking about DOING something stupid
Quote from MajorMarmot
I think that instead of choosing something constructive and of real value, choosing a similar thing with no value at all is a good definition of something stupid
And I answered your question saying "something stupid" not "someone stupid"
I never called anyone stupid (definitely not your mom), and I paid special attention to that.
And you shouldn't be offended about that, everybody does stupid stuff. I do stupid stuff all the time, right now I'm having an argument with a person that I have never seen about a game that I have never played....that's not something smart.
Do you think that Einstein never did anything stupid?
I'm sure he did, tons of stupid stuff....indirectly helping to build a weapon of mass destruction was incredibly stupid of his part.
Does that make him stupid, of course not, he was a freaking genius.
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Get a band, problem solved
right, right. I because I remember how ridiculously easy it is to get a band. Getting a band and playing a party game with your friends. It's not the same. And you questioning my guitar playing skills? I'd rather not go into that.
You have never been in a band, have you? It's not that hard.....I have, a lot of my friends have....and you don't need to try to be the next rock star, you just have fun and play for some people.
And I don't know anything about your guitar playing skills, or how often you practice, or how hard is the song you're trying to play. But taking months in playing a single song.....is way too much, specially if you are not going to play it in public, and you don't have to synchronize with the rest of the band.
Anyway, I was trying to counter argue what you said about learning a song in guitar hero in 5 minutes and taking months to learn one in a real guitar, because I know that it takes weeks, not months....after you have had a proper study of the instrument, obviously....
If you want to keep having this discussion, let's do it by PMs, I think this is enough spamming.
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