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Post #118126 - Reply To (#118122) by VampireBanana
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Nothing wrong with them as long as they have character. 🙂 As if the pretty females in many shounen/seinen manga are any different, though: a lot of them exist only to be helpless and to rely on the male, or to be exploited sexually. Yep, many will be totally strong and smart but at some point in the manga, all those brains skills will run towards their boobs and xxx levels or to their crying skills.

Same goes for a lot of bishies: however smart they are, somehow, they'll revert to stereotypical bishie behaviour like making the girl mad at him, manipulating the girl no matter how much she loves him/he loves her, etc., etc.

Ugh... all this has got pretty annoying, though.

They are gross... i mean, i guess the whole idea comes from the visual kei movement in music? Pleae correct me on that, I'm just hypthosizing. You know all those gaudy jrockers in their overly flamboyant clothing and makeup? (ex. Mana and Gackt, just to name a few)


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hmm, if you think about it, MOST shonen main characters would be one if they get a korean haircut, went to beauty salon every 3 days, and sacrifice all bodily muscle and fat they have. if they weren't so damn "shiny" in every damn series, they'd be more tolerable.


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hell yes

thats why i read manga b/c the guys are hecka gorgeous. i know it sounds shallow but if manga had no bishies i would never ever read manga. i mean c'mon. if the art sucks then i kinda lose intrest even if it does have a good story line. thats what books are for. duh.


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hell yes

thats why i read manga b/c the guys are hecka gorgeous. i know it sounds shallow but if manga had no bishies i would never ever read manga. i mean c'mon. if the art sucks then i kinda lose intrest even if it does have a good story line. thats what books are for. duh.

Wow. Reading manga just for the Bishies. THAT is an obsessive fangirl.


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hell yes

thats why i read manga b/c the guys are hecka gorgeous. i know it sounds shallow but if manga had no bishies i would never ever read manga. i mean c'mon. if the art sucks then i kinda lose intrest even if it does have a good story line. thats what books are for. duh.

Wow. Reading manga just for the Bishies. THAT is an obsessive fangirl.

once again, thank you for the compliment 😀


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hell yes

thats why i read manga b/c the guys are hecka gorgeous. i know it sounds shallow but if manga had no bishies i would never ever read manga. i mean c'mon. if the art sucks then i kinda lose intrest even if it does have a good story line. thats what books are for. duh.

Wow. Reading manga just for the Bishies. THAT is an obsessive fangirl.

once again, thank you for the compliment 😀

And thank you for interpreting that as a compliment.


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[quote=sleepless_sin]hell yes

thats why i read manga b/c the guys are hecka gorgeous. i know it sounds shallow but if manga had no bishies i would never ever read manga. i mean c'mon. if the art sucks then i kinda lose intrest even if it does have a good story line. thats what books are for. duh.

Wow. Reading manga just for the Bishies. THAT is an obsessive fangirl.

once again, thank you for the compliment 😀

And thank you for interpreting that as a compliment.[/quote]

you're welcome for thanking me anyway. i'll still take it as a compliment. besides you're a little biased anyway and a guy to top it off so it doesnt really make a difference. but seriously, lets stop with the quoting.


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Men are supposed to be as the spartans in 300. Violent, honorable and with lots of muscle.

Takes his lance AHU! AHU! AHU!!!!!


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yea thats just like guys reading manga for ecchiness.


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Post #118445 - Reply To (#118354) by MajorMarmot
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Men are supposed to be as the spartans in 300. Violent, honorable and with lots of muscle.

Takes his lance AHU! AHU! AHU!!!!!

Hahahaha, I think the japanese equivulant ur looking for are Sumo wrestlers, good sumo wrestlers can get ass so easily in japan.


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Men are supposed to be as the spartans in 300. Violent, honorable and with lots of muscle.

Takes his lance AHU! AHU! AHU!!!!!

Hahahaha, I think the japanese equivulant ur looking for are Sumo wrestlers, good sumo wrestlers can get ass so easily in japan.

i hear sumo wrestlers are players in japan...so it is true


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Men are supposed to be as the spartans in 300. Violent, honorable and with lots of muscle.

Takes his lance AHU! AHU! AHU!!!!!

Hahahaha, I think the japanese equivulant ur looking for are Sumo wrestlers, good sumo wrestlers can get ass so easily in japan.

My god! That's just so wrong in many ways 😔


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Men are supposed to be as the spartans in 300. Violent, honorable and with lots of muscle.

Takes his lance AHU! AHU! AHU!!!!!

Hahahaha, I think the japanese equivulant ur looking for are Sumo wrestlers, good sumo wrestlers can get ass so easily in japan.

My god! That's just so wrong in many ways 😔

hey dont be prejudice against fat people. besides sumos are more muscle than fat anyway. its not the fat you're thinking of.


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Nothing wrong with them as long as they have character. 🙂 As if the pretty females in many shounen/seinen manga are any different, though: a lot of them exist only to be helpless and to rely on the male, or to be exploited sexually. Yep, many will be totally strong and smart but at some point in the manga, all those brains skills will run towards their boobs and xxx levels or to their crying skills.

Same goes for a lot of bishies: however smart they are, somehow, they'll revert to stereotypical bishie behaviour like making the girl mad at him, manipulating the girl no matter how much she loves him/he loves her, etc., etc.

Ugh... all this has got pretty annoying, though.

They are gross... i mean, i guess the whole idea comes from the visual kei movement in music? Pleae correct me on that, I'm just hypthosizing. You know all those gaudy jrockers in their overly flamboyant clothing and makeup? (ex. Mana and Gackt, just to name a few)

Well, if it bothers you so much, then don't touch the manga?

I'm someone who reads anything from shounen to seinen, shoujo to jousei and even lesbian stuff, so... eh, this stuff doesn't bother me at all.

Besides, no... I don't think all of it comes from the visual kei movement but that the female readers tend to identify themselves through the male characters at times, hence the androgynous looks of the male characters. Much like how you had female characters who looked like males in the 70s to 80s: Rose of Versailles, eh... and a lot of other shoujo titles. So, I see it more as a shift in the way shoujo manga are drawn, that's all.


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Nothing wrong with them as long as they have character. 🙂 As if the pretty females in many shounen/seinen manga are any different, though: a lot of them exist only to be helpless and to rely on the male, or to be exploited sexually. Yep, many will be totally strong and smart but at some point in the manga, all those brains skills will run towards their boobs and xxx levels or to their crying skills.

Same goes for a lot of bishies: however smart they are, somehow, they'll revert to stereotypical bishie behaviour like making the girl mad at him, manipulating the girl no matter how much she loves him/he loves her, etc., etc.

Ugh... all this has got pretty annoying, though.

They are gross... i mean, i guess the whole idea comes from the visual kei movement in music? Pleae correct me on that, I'm just hypthosizing. You know all those gaudy jrockers in their overly flamboyant clothing and makeup? (ex. Mana and Gackt, just to name a few)

Well, if it bothers you so much, then don't touch the manga?

I'm someone who reads anything from shounen to seinen, shoujo to jousei and even lesbian stuff, so... eh, this stuff doesn't bother me at all.

Besides, no... I don't think all of it comes from the visual kei movement but that the female readers tend to identify themselves through the male characters at times, hence the androgynous looks of the male characters. Much like how you had female characters who looked like males in the 70s to 80s: Rose of Versailles, eh... and a lot of other shoujo titles. So, I see it more as a shift in the way shoujo manga are drawn, that's all.

I'm honestly a sucker for romance manga/animes where the main female character has some sort of orginal plot, unfortunately there's usually a bishie as well.


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