Exactly what the title says... I read somewhere about how much money sites like OneManga and MangaFox make and I thought to myself, what if they used that money to purchase licensing for the manga hosted [the one's not already licensed].

You can have the scanlators continue [paid if they want] and all money would go to running the site and maintaining licenses, a small amount to pay scanlators if they so choose. You could also offer "print on demand" services for the manga series that have finished volumes scanlated. Plus Advertisements, you have a hefty sum of money that could potentially go to licensing some often overlooked series. Not to mention, with all the companies going bankrupt and stopping their prints of their series this could be a way to get licenses for those series again and have them continue.

Just a thought that went through my head.

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Isn't that what crunchyroll does for anime? It seemingly works. But publishers in Japan don't seem convinced that online distribution methods would work despite the evidence.

Sarcasm just doesn't work over the internet.

Sites like mangafox, mangareader and mangastream (yes, MS too) turns enough revenue to match that of the actual publishers in japan based on their traffic with likely ad revenue versus the public stats the publishers put out. Ironically, the online readers have minimal costs, so it may be very possible that their profit stream is greater than of the actual publisher.

Licensing the series is actually one of end goals of Batoto, though we fear we'll most likely never reach that goal. Also, just because it's licensed doesn't mean you can't get license for it as well. I think most of the licenses are non-exclusive since many titles do get multiple licensees. But, obviously less fruitful when you need to share a pie.

So, I don't think even "pay" is required to promote the idea of licensing series.

But, I think the idea of having to paying just for a chance in the future is too much risk for me to open my wallets. What will happen when they fail? Where does that money go? There are too many questions unanswered.

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Only if they released physical volumes.

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No. I might as well just buy the books for the one's that are licensed then..

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Only if they released physical volumes.

That's what "print on demand" is. You order the volume online and they print you a fresh copy right then and send it to you. Now a days they have a set number they publish and then order more when their stock starts to get low.

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No. I might as well just buy the books for the one's that are licensed then..

The point is most of the series that are scanlated [the ones that would be on the site] are NOT licensed... The point being the site would use the money to BUY the licenses for those UNLICENSEd series. This way it's allowing series that would normally go unnoticed to be translated...

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Sites like mangafox, mangareader and mangastream (yes, MS too) turns enough revenue to match that of the actual publishers in japan based on their traffic with likely ad revenue versus the public stats the publishers put out. Ironically, the online readers have minimal costs, so it may be very possible that their profit stream is greater than of the actual publisher.

Licensing the series is actually one of end goals of Batoto, though we fear we'll most likely never reach that goal. Also, just because it's licensed doesn't mean you can't get license for it as well. I think most of the licenses are non-exclusive since many titles do get multiple licensees. But, obviously less fruitful when you need to share a pie.

So, I don't think even "pay" is required to promote the idea of licensing series.

But, I think the idea of having to paying just for a chance in the future is too much risk for me to open my wallets. What will happen when they fail? Where does that money go? There are too many questions unanswered.

That's cool... Though paying for a reader really wouldn't be necessary with all the advertisements, paying a small monthly fee would make things easier in the long run if you started to get trouble from advertisement groups and such.

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No. I might as well just buy the books for the one's that are licensed then..

The point is most of the series that are scanlated [the ones that would be on the site] are NOT licensed... The point being the site would use the money to BUY the licenses for those UNLICENSEd series. This way it's allowing series that would normally go unnoticed to be translated...

I must have read it wrong. Thanks for clearing it up! O:
Still no.

I would not because I don't trust anyone on the internet to do what they say with the money. Furthermore, a lot of scanlators are not that good... I won't pay for a lot of the lazy LQ scanlations I'm seeing these days. I'd rather just buy the Japanese manga.

What kind of moron would pay to read stuff we can already read free? This question is pointless even if its used as an angle to possibly get more series licensed and continued. Think of a diff way.

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What kind of moron would pay to read stuff we can already read free? This question is pointless even if its used as an angle to possibly get more series licensed and continued. Think of a diff way.

Ok.... This is justa thought not an actual plan or action. I was thinking that people, given the chance, would want to do the right thing and make things legal [plus keep the scanlating community intact].

Apparently I was wrong on that...

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I would not because I don't trust anyone on the internet to do what they say with the money. Furthermore, a lot of scanlators are not that good... I won't pay for a lot of the lazy LQ scanlations I'm seeing these days. I'd rather just buy the Japanese manga.

I actually agree with that... I don't trust people on the internet either. But this is just an idea, no plan to implement. I would like to think the best of people when it comes to this, but I doubt it'll ever work out.

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Nope. I will never pay to watch/read Anime/manga.
the only thing I support by paying is PC gaming.

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What kind of moron would pay to read stuff we can already read free? This question is pointless even if its used as an angle to possibly get more series licensed and continued. Think of a diff way.

Chill out. My goodness.

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I wouldn't pay just because I prefer scanned releases over licensed, published volumes. I don't like what some American manga publishers do (well, mainly Tokyopop, but that's gone now....), but the publishers nowadays are getting much better with their quality, I think. I wouldn't necessarily want to pay for the unlicensed manga series to acquire foreign licenses, but I would buy the actual licensed, released volumes for series if I like what the American publisher did. Just not the licenses.
I wouldn't pay for any online service anyway. That's just how I am.

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What kind of moron would pay to read stuff we can already read free? This question is pointless even if its used as an angle to possibly get more series licensed and continued. Think of a diff way.

Chill out. My goodness.

My view...
I wouldn't pay just because I prefer scanned releases over licensed, published volumes. I don't like what some American manga publishers do (well, mainly Tokyopop, but that's gone now....), but the publishers nowadays are getting much better with their quality, I think. I wouldn't necessarily want to pay for the unlicensed manga series to acquire foreign licenses, but I would buy the actual licensed, released volumes for series if I like what the American publisher did. Just not the licenses.
I wouldn't pay for any online service anyway. That's just how I am.

Not sure why people are misunderstanding this... The American Publishers [TokyoPop, VizMedia, etc.] will not be buying the licenses, the Online Reader Site would. They would buy the license for series BEING SCANLATED, then ask the scanlators if they could use their scanlations. So basically you have nothing really changing from now, just that the money earned will go to make scanlation legal.

That's the basic gist of it.

The series that are being licensed have NEVER BEEN LICENSED anywhere except Japan. Why would you pay money to get a license for a series already being licensed? That's dumb... Unless it's used to purchase the licenses of series that have been drooped by their English Publishers. Then you can continue those series for the fans that want to read them.

You get a license to translate the series into English [or other language] and then you ask the scanlators if you can use their scans for it [I mentioned a payment before]. You can have quality checkers and proofreaders, etc. when a volume of a series is "scanlated" you can offer it up for purchase with a "print on demand" option. Money goes to website maintenance, aquiring more series licenses, and misc expenditures [paying scanlators, proofreaders, etc.].

Again it's just an idea....

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no
because here,noone pays attention to manga anyway
the only mangas you can find(in a few stores only) are deathnote,naruto,bleach and one piece
theres only one manga store over here and the prices are very high
for ONE volume i would have to pay the equivalent of a normal novel
plus noone here even knows of the existence of manhwas
the only way manga readers like me can read mangas and manhwas is through the internet,if that too is gone then we wont be able to read mangas anymore
i know that some mangakas deserve more recognition and attention but im sure there are many readers like me who only have access to mangas through the internet

if there were more manga stores and the prices were reasonable i would have happily bought mangas,i already spend alot of money on novels

If it's not only AVAILABLE to US and Canada citizens, maybe. But if not, no. No matter how much I want to support, if I can't read, then it's kinda worthless