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Post #202561 - Reply To (#202559) by tsuto
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So what do you think about it?

I think that power shouldn't be abused, even if it happens in real life I'm against it. Certainly most of us had experimented it in one for or another, so, feel free to tell your experiences if you feel like doing so.

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Abuse is up to the interpreter. What my seem justifiable to some members of society might seem to be abuse to others.

Thanks for the off topic, I'm not asking about what may or not be.

Discussing the validity of your inquiry is on topic. Without defining what abuse is, how can anyone decide if it's right or wrong?

Another hypothetical for instance: A police officer confiscates a registered firearm from a suspected gang member. The suspected gang member later gets in a fight in which he stabs a person non-lethally. If the police officer had not confiscated the firearm, the situation would have ended with a fatality.

Is that abuse of power? According to the law, it is.


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I don't mind as long as I am not the one who
gets stomped. I've never abused power.
I would feel bad doing so, but I won't nag if
somebody abuses somebody else.


Post #202565 - Reply To (#202560) by x0mbiec0rp
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[quote=ahoaho]Who defines abuse? What is it? What to me seems like abuse could be perfectly justifiable in your eyes.

You are saying everything can be justified based solely in your personal perspective? While you can have your own opinion about everything and it can be "correct" or "justifiable" for you. Society doesn't work that way.

Anyway, it's not a discussion about "definition".

Abuse is up to the interpreter. What my seem justifiable to some members of society might seem to be abuse to others.

For example, I could say that welfare is an abuse of government power, but to others, it may be completely acceptable.

By taking a question out of context, misconceptions occur.

Abuse of power isn't a realistic term anyways. It's more of a term to be used by those who are weak and can only call names. If you want to accuse someone of something, you should point to there specific crimes instead of saying that they can get things done, but sometimes they mistreat their ability to get things done (Like not feeding the power, or not giving it baths, or slapping it when it doesn't make your sandwich properly, or whatever).[/quote]
No one wants dirty power, lol.

But it seems you get what I mean, in the very least.


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Discussing the validity of your inquiry is on topic. Without defining what abuse is, how can anyone decide if it's right or wrong?

Well, it's all sophistry and I don't care about it. Enjoy looking for definitions of everything.


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Discussing the validity of your inquiry is on topic. Without defining what abuse is, how can anyone decide if it's right or wrong?

Well, it's all sophistry and I don't care about it. Enjoy looking for definitions of everything.

Enjoy looking at your world in black and white!

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Though I don't understand why you dismiss my points point blank instead of considering them.


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Though I don't understand why you dismiss my points point blank instead of considering them.

Because you like to make things much more complicated than they are... 🤣

It's a simple question of whether if given power, you would abuse it or not. No need to go around in circles. Since this thread isn't discussing about what is abuse, but how you feel about it...


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Though I don't understand why you dismiss my points point blank instead of considering them.

Because getting into a pointless discussion about superfluous matters like discussion about the definition of a term that seems to have been understood by most of the members posting in this thread, isn't something I wanted to do.

Please somebody lock this thread, it has gotten pointless, I apologize if needed.
Congratulations for "winning" ahoaho.


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Though I don't understand why you dismiss my points point blank instead of considering them.

Because you like to make things much more complicated than they are... 🤣

It's a simple question of whether if given power, you would abuse it or not. No need to go around in circles. Tince this thread isn't discussing about what is abuse, but how you feel about it...

But... but...

I have to over analyze everthing 🙁


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Though I don't understand why you dismiss my points point blank instead of considering them.

Because you like to make things much more complicated than they are... 🤣

It's a simple question of whether if given power, you would abuse it or not. No need to go around in circles. Since this thread isn't discussing about what is abuse, but how you feel about it...

But... but...

I have to over analyze everthing 🙁

You have way too much time... 😐 My head would hurt if I over analyze things...

Anyway, I'll let this thread live for a while and see how it goes first...

Also, to be relevant, I'm currently still an idealistic youth so it's the spiderman choice for me.


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Though I don't understand why you dismiss my points point blank instead of considering them.

Because getting into a pointless discussion about superfluous matters like discussion about the definition of a term that seems to have been understood by most of the members posting in this thread, isn't something I wanted to do.

Please somebody lock this thread, it has gotten pointless, I apologize if needed.
Congratulations for "winning" ahoaho.

When no knowledge is gained, no one wins.

The ambiguity of this topic is as stark as the superfluousness of my posts. How can I say something is wrong if that something is not defined?

If you want an opinion on the validity of 'abuse of power', I will say that any abuse of influence or power is up to interpretation on a case by case basis. There are some instances where the ends justify the means.


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Stop the underlying squabbling, and just make up with a hug.

Aho, try to consider Tsu's opinion at times,
and Tsu, know that Aho's just trying to do his job in his way.

I'll lock this thread, since it didn't bring any good 'till now, and it won't bring any in the near future.

Edit: Okay, saw my colleagues' post and let it live for now too.


On-topic: I find this subject to be too diverse - vague, even - to give a proper response to it, so I'll refrain from giving any opinion.

I do agree that you should sensibly use your power, and not just use it as you see fit and try to consider everyone's standpoint before making a judgement.


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On-topic: I find this subject to be too diverse - vague, even - to give a proper response to it, so I'll refrain from giving any opinion.

I do agree that you should sensibly use your power, and not just use it as you see fit and try to consider everyone's standpoint before making a judgement.

That's basically the point I was trying to make.


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On-topic: I find this subject to be too diverse - vague, even - to give a proper response to it, so I'll refrain from giving any opinion.

I do agree that you should sensibly use your power, and not just use it as you see fit and try to consider everyone's standpoint before making a judgement.

That's basically the point I was trying to make.

You sure have a roundabout way of saying it...so it's basically the first choice for you...

Anyway, let's leave this thread for the other posters now that we've placed our input...


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[b]On-topic[/b]: I find this subject to be too diverse - vague, even - to give a proper response to it, so I'll refrain from giving any opinion.

I do agree that you should sensibly use your power, and not just use it as you see fit and try to consider everyone's standpoint before making a judgement.

That's basically the point I was trying to make.

You sure have a roundabout way of saying it...so it's basically the first choice for you...

Well, suffice to say that I get carried away with language at times.

As far as it being the first choice; to a short extent yes. But this subject has so much room for grey area that I chose 'other'.


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Let's abuse my power and lock this even though it's not breaking any rules~

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