http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/05/24/toronto-parents-raise-gen derless-baby

I was just wondering what people think of this issue and if it's in the best interest of society if more families were like that.

I don't think it would be good for society at all.... ._. Just my opinion...


Erm. What.

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-There are cases of boys who testicles don't drop from the abdomen until the child is 9-10. Before then, they look like girls and are usually treated as such. From my understanding, they don't experience an unusual level of social dysfunction.

- However, there was also a case of a man who was born with some female attributes as well as male attributes. The doctors and parents agreed to operate on him to remove the male parts and raise him as a girl. I say he, because he was rather scarred by the experience and turned out to be more in tuned with being a man. He underwent surgery and had a family, but fell victim to his depression and committed suicide. Despite having the attributes of being a girl and being raised one, he simply never was one.

I believe that gender definitely is influenced by society, but it is not entirely a social construct as some schools of thought theorize.

I don't really get the point of having kids hide their gender. This is different from letting a boy play with dolls or wear dresses, which I could understand letting happen because kids go through phases and I don't really see the harm in having a girl be a tomboy or a boy play like a girl. But what's the point of keeping the gender secret?

they seem to mean well and they did not do any harm to the baby, but what i found more interesting is ubschooling, now that could do some damage to a child's future

i agree with @KaoriNite
the kids shouldn't feel like they're abnormal or different
i think the best way to raise a genderless child is just letting him/her be.....he/she should take their time before deciding because obviously there's no going back.
my friend knew a girl who had this problem,her parents let her reach the age of 16 before making her go through surgery to remove the male parts
but ofcourse this might be hard because the child will probably be victim of bullying and such

EDIT : oh i just read the article...so...the child is not literally genderless?if thats the case then this is utter shit,and wth....home schooling?
they're destroying storm's future in every aspect,the child will probably grow up to become socially awkward,i mean,school plays an important role in developing children's personalities.and so what if their first child is being a little bullied i mean thats normal ,instead of focusing on jazz's problem they're destroying storm's(haha what kind of name is this) future

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The 'unschooling' thing is definitely a bit more iffy. A few notches too new-agey. I know plenty of people who went through homeschooling just fine thanks to moderately intelligent parents, but it generally isn't a good formula as they end up missing a lot of crucial aspects of the entire educational institution (mostly the social bits- acting responsibly, socializing, properly understanding when not to voice your opinion.) Those are pretty crucial aspects for success in most fields, too...

But that's not what this thread is about.

I don't think it will make a difference. We can talk about gender roles or whatever, but there does seem to be a sort of genetic component for a lot of transgender types, so I imagine this kid will come up with the appropriate method of identifying itself, even though that may not be simple for everyone.

I mean, really, what does it matter? I'm frankly more worried about why its parents would name it "Storm."

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Reminds me... One couple a few years ago tried to name their kid "@"... pronounced in Chinese as "Ai Ta" ("love him/her") if you draw out ending consonant, as many East Asians do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-475724/Chinese-couple-tr y-baby.html

Makes me wonder how daring some other parents might be. Maybe I should name a future child after a single non-alphanumeric character!
' Apostrophe
~ Tilde
* Asterisk (or Star)
& Ampersand
- Hyphen
/ Slash

Those should make for some easy signatures... Yeah...

Who are you?
"The name's Mark...... Question Mark."
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"Yes."

Moving back to the topic: parents these days are struggling so hard to make their children "unique" in any way possible, because they have no faith that their children will be able to set themselves apart from the crowd on their own... whether that be giving them funky names or homeschooling them and manipulating them into being screwy characters, or a combination thereof.

Omg i live in Toronto, and i've seen the kids!
he was wearing a pink dress! (not against it or anything...)
and the reason they are home schooled was because they got bullied.

Also i think they are treating their kid as an experiment!

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It says they are unschooled though.......... @_______@

They are gonna be NEETs!

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Apparently "unschooling" is a radical form of homeschool in which the kids aren't actually taught.

Mindblowing educational value, clearly.

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From what my parents told me, the kid get to go to 'value village' and pick out anything he wants (for example dresses) and his parents are completely okay with it,
So the kid wore it to school
and got bullied.
who knew
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personaly i think his parents should put some common sense into him
hes going to grow up and be very screwed up

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Imagine what a blast unschooling would be.
Well, up til the kid realises you need a modicum of intelligence to succeed in the modern world.

Even more worrisome than semantic knowledge and technical intelligence is the social skills they will be missing.

No doubt the parents will overfeed their children platitudes like, "Don't worry what other people think. All that matters is what you think. You go ahead and keep wearing that pretty little dress if you like it."

It doesn't bother me personally, but the overall self-centered attitude that instills in kids: blatant disregard for others' opinions (regardless of whether others' opinions are close-minded or not)... I wonder if that's healthy.

If I really didn't care what the rest of society thought, I'd be walking around naked all the time. It's far more comfortable.

Well, you'd get arrested for that one, so I'm not sure that it's a matter of what they think

Doesn't stop you at home, though.

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