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Koi ga Bokura wo Yurusu Hani  
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Description
A story about two college friends with girlfriends, who fall in love and engage in a relationship which is then scrutinized by all involved.

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Associated Names
恋が僕等を許す範囲
戀愛允許的範圍
Koi ga Bokura no Yurusu Hani
Koi ga Bokura o Yurusu Hani
Koi ga Bokura wo Yurusu Han'i
The limits that desire allows us

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Latest Release(s)
v.3 c.13 by Nakama & Memory For You (3165d ago)
v.3 c.Side Story by Nakama & Memory For You (3165d ago)
v.3 c.12 by Nakama & Memory For You (3239d ago)
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Status in Country of Origin
3 Volumes 1996 (Complete)
2 Volumes 2009 (Complete)

Completely Scanlated?
Yes

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Average: 8.3 / 10.0 (250 votes)
Bayesian Average: 8.14 / 10.0
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June 25th 2013, 2:41pm PST


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1996

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Weekly Pos #878 increased(+101)
Monthly Pos #1546 increased(+73)
3 Month Pos #1910 increased(+288)
6 Month Pos #2262 increased(+220)

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On 187 wish lists
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Beautiful and classic   
Rating: 10.0 / 10.0
by mahiru
October 26th, 2013, 10:28pm
...minus the scanlation/translation. I know they tried their best to distinguish between love and desire but it was still a bit difficult to digest the rest of the dialogues.
That aside, this is definitely a must read for a mature audience. Motoni's works are always beautiful and I've teared up reading a number of them already, this one included : )
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ummm   
Rating: 5.0 / 10.0
by shanden123
June 21st, 2013, 2:35pm
okay its a yaoi but it wasnt arousing. its like reading a shojo.. the plot on the other hand was interesting, quite different, something i never read before.. i understood why it had 13 chapters cause it seems it wasnt the type to drag on are else it was gana be dropped or become boring..
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Beautiful Feelings   
Rating: 9.5 / 10.0
by dreamerlisa
June 16th, 2013, 1:23am
This is a story with truly beautiful feelings, regardless of it being yaoi, I'm so touched by how the two main characters feel for each other. In the end, a relationship is always about what you feel.. this is Motoni sensei's best work, and probably the best yaoi I've ever read
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Better with age   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by CuthienSilmeriel
September 7th, 2012, 9:15am
I first read this when I was still a teenager and had a very naive view. I felt the manga was confusing and illogical, that the characters were unrealistic and basically hated the whole thing.

I just re-read it with the benefit of a few more years and a whole pile more experience behind me. I LOVE it!!! Seriously, what seemed so convoluted and nonsensical before makes perfect sense to me. Yes, the whole situation is messed up, but that is the point! Relationships are not fairytales, people are misunderstood, feelings change, and often people are too scared or concerned to find happiness. I especially liked the way all of the characters were willing to sacrifice personal happiness for the happiness of the one they loved.

One of my favourite parts was seeing the difference between the way Reiko (the older woman) and Miku (the younger woman) handle the who situation. Miku loved like a girl. filled with dreams of marriage and unable to fully appreciate the consequences of her initial decision until it was too late to turn back the clock. She loved wholly and deeply, but without truly understanding her boyfriend, like she was more in love with the idea of love than with Fujio. Reiko, however, had the bittersweet love of a woman who no longer feels like she will be young forever, and is starting to feel the clock tick, so does not want to relinquish her tentative grasp on her boyfriend even know she knows full well that he will never be hers. Her willingness to compromise more, to support the males more fully, and her resignation in accepting the leftovers really defines her as a cool-headed, experienced business woman and sets her apart from Miku.

As for the boys, their reluctance to admit their feelings due to the expectations of society was very beautifully potrayed. The need to have rules and boundries, the desire to keep their girlfriends as justification, and the slow acceptance was what really defined this manga for me as outstanding. Sure, they acted in a strange way, did stupid things and were very frustrating at times, but that is love. People do not act rationally or logically when feelings are involved, especially feelings that have been repressed for so long. Both of them were desperately trying to wash away feelings that were only running deeper each passing year, they were unable to completely cut ties with each other and yet could not accept each other because they knew their passion would overrul their sensibilities. Watching them slowly break down the walls that have been in place for years was very moving.

I think it is a shame that English can not fully convey the delicate meanings of this manga, a lot is lost in the translation which can make the whole thing seem very confusing. I felt this could have been more appealing with a better translation.

Over all, this is a manga well worth reading. Just stick with it, it is worth the struggle and the whole things become clearer after a second reading.

P.S. To the people who are bothered by the fact a woman was made to get an abortion. SPOILER ALERT It turns out the woman was lying about being pregnant in the first place. I know it hardly justifies his attitude, but at least the woman was actually traumatised in that way.
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definitely different   
Rating: 9.0 / 10.0
by yarn
August 30th, 2012, 3:53am
It's basically a story of a bunch of sex friends who are (or rather, think they are) happy with their casual relationships. If focuses on two bisexual guys who are sleeping with each other. Each of them has a 'girlfriend,' and they're chill about what their bf's are doing together. The rest of it's all crazy drama as they all try to figure out what they really want out of relationships. [Hint: Maybe "going casual" isn't the best sort of relationship after all]

I rated it highly because it feels very *real.* It's like a soap opera. And when done right, that sort of thing can be interesting, as in this case. The characters have to travel a lot way and work through lots of fights and arguments and "acting out" to settle things.

If you want a nice, rosy story about sweet lovin' this isn't it. DON'T READ THIS STORY IF YOU LIKE PERFECT CHARACTERS. They are REAL characters. The kinds that make you want to shake them and slap them over the head. And there be lots of yellin' and slappin' and hurt feelings in here.

And if you only like "pure yaoi" (a.k.a. "no naked women") then you should probably steer clear too. Like I said, the guys are bi, they have their bedroom times with their gfs.

Notes to other reviews: Out of fan-translations I've seen, this is nowhere near the worst. Besides, what do you expect from unofficial translations you didn't pay a cent for?

And for the review about the abortion: yeah, the guy's a jerk; these are regular messed-up characters, and any way, you must not have read very far because **SPOILER** the gf lied about being pregnant so yeah, like I said...

... Last updated on August 30th, 2012, 4:02am
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what is love?   
Rating: 9.5 / 10.0
by chocoripeyes
June 28th, 2012, 6:08pm
this whole series revolves around that single question. if you don't have the patience to sit along with the characters as they figure this out (3 volumes), then this is not for you.

i really liked this series. i agree, the translation can use some improvement but i can tell it's not easy translating this so i'll let that pass. this series does not give any simple & direct answers to the definition of love but the answer will shine through if you are reading and understanding the characters.

i admit it's a bit slow in the beginning because you are just getting introduced to the characters and the story but as the story develops, things start making sense and fall into place.

earlier reviewers have said that this series is full of dysfunctional, stupid characters with no relationship skills -- i beg to differ. They're "dysfunctional" and "stupid" BECAUSE they're strung up between the tough concepts of 'desire' and 'love' (central themes in this series). If you've EVER been in love with anyone and have actually BEEN in a relationship with them you would be able to understand this. Since when did "love" go together with things like "common sense"?

There is no straight forward narration crap like "He is a manipulative, jealous man" blah blah blah that you see in 2nd rate manga...the characters are defined by their actions and their histories, not defined by the manga-ka's laziness.

Bottom line: I recommend this. Go for it! (and the artwork is amazing btw!)

If you like The Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese and The Carp on the Chopping Block Jumps Twice, you'd like this series.

... Last updated on June 28th, 2012, 6:27pm
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I'm lost   
Rating: N/A
by jpgosh
May 18th, 2012, 8:47pm
I really don't understand why this manga has such a high rating. The translation is bad and made me unable to enjoy it and follow the plot. Maybe it is unfair to rate it low because this is not the mangaka's fault, but the translator's. However, can't read Japanese so I'm stuck with the scanlated version, which in my opinion sucks.
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Grammar   
Rating: 7.0 / 10.0
by Ebony2448
January 18th, 2012, 1:55pm
I kind of really liked it but ended up deleting it because the translations sucked. It was very interesting though, and I loved the art, but the grammar brought a lone, solitary tear to my eye... ~_T

... Last updated on January 18th, 2012, 1:55pm
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Therapy, seriously... -___-   
Rating: 5.0 / 10.0
by mlat26
September 24th, 2011, 10:38pm
Is a bit of a dysfunctional mess, actually a lot.....In my opinion they all need psychological help, and their morals are not the most commonly seen around, which for the average person would make reading this manga a little frustrating and confusing. It was hard to read at the beginning and I think some things are lost in translation, which takes away quite a lot and makes it confusing for the reader. Koi and Ai, I'm still racking my brains trying to get complete understanding of the meaning(I've Googled a lot) I guess I need a better knowledge of Japanese to grasp the concept better and maybe the English language doesn't have appropriate terms for those words to be translated properly.

If you feel like smacking and kicking the character a bit while reading, it is an understandable feeling D: I wanted to beat the crap out of them a lot(pardon my French) They lacked a lot in the IQ area, or maybe in common sense? I'm just glad I finished reading it and the ending wasn't tragic, if the mangaka had killed someone off I would have definitely had meltdown -_- I feel a bit drained, but I guess there might be people out there that go through similar circumstances?? I hope not sad I'm a fan of monogamous relationships so I was uncomfortable for most(all) of the manga. Gave it a five 'cause, not sure really. But if you want to read a different kind of YAOI manga then try this one. Happy Reading!!

P.S. For some reason I always end up disliking the women in YAOI mangas -_- they are just....So what if they are both men? butt out D: Love is all you need go find a straight guy <3

... Last updated on September 24th, 2011, 10:40pm
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Couldn't read it   
Rating: N/A
by MaZzAx
January 18th, 2011, 10:50am
I couldn't bring myself to read past the first few pages because: *SPOILER*
He made a girl abort a child? Anyone who forces somebody to feel like they need to do that is a terrible person so I felt I couldn't read on. If there is more of a story to that situation then hey my loss but I just couldn't get past it.
Shame though, if it weren't for that it sounds like a really good manga from what everyone else is saying.

... Last updated on June 5th, 2011, 6:40am
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