I don't think that that is what scientology is (atleast that's not what Wikipedia says). It's something about people beings immortal spiritual beings or something.

Anyway....

Wow, a lot of people on this site are pretty irreligious or at least the ones that posted on this thread. First of all, to answer the question(s), I don’t think it’s good to believe in God because that sometimes halts progress and causes people to act really stupidly, I don’t think believing in God makes someone lucky, and no I don’t think believing in god make a person a complete idiot. And as for myself, I actually do care what people believe in. I know it’s stupid, but it annoys me to no end that people would believe in something as illogical as God (This is just my opinion) and actually hope that someday religion ceases to exist.




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If the entire world would believe in the same God(s); yes.
But since this is not the case I voted "no".

Why?
Well simply because there are simply still too many wars going on caused, based or influenced by (a difference in) Religions. Not to mention the unfathomable amount of bloodshed that the past has already seen because of that.

If you forget about that fact I would probably say yes, in a way that religion might give you some extra courage in life. Religion might also help as a social factor (meeting new people,...).

But in any case you should never be too 'extreme' in believing a certain idea. In my opinion you should always keep a clear mind on things; without letting your judgement, descisions & opinions influenced too much by your faith.

well, i dont know how to put it in a good word,

i do think that believing in God is good & very ESSENTIAL as we need a guide in this world..
what do you guys reckon if we dont have something like a mission (something like a purpose) in our life?

God creates everything, so, do you guys really thinks this whole universe just create itself? well, you shouldn't..
as even a pencil, we have to create it first.. we put the lead inside it & stuff it into a wood, so, then we have create a pencil.. then the question is, do the universe really creates itself? No, as simple as that..

religion is a guideline in our life too, so, dont telling it (religion) just creates bad vibes to us because its just us that makes ourselves bad..

Quote from hiei_luke:
"God creates everything, so, do you guys really thinks this whole universe just create itself? well, you shouldn't..
as even a pencil, we have to create it first.. we put the lead inside it & stuff it into a wood, so, then we have create a pencil.. then the question is, do the universe really creates itself? No, as simple as that..

religion is a guideline in our life too, so, dont telling it (religion) just creates bad vibes to us because its just us that makes ourselves bad.. "

Well, the universe didn't create itself, but it doesn't have to have been created by God, I mean there are other explanations. Also, people don't need Religion to guide them, they can live just fine without it. You also can't put all the blame on people, i mean religion had to have some influence on our bad actions.

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but how do explain, why the "other explanation" wants to create a universe if they are not God?



i'm sorry, but, isnt all religion, i should mean, the real + unchanged-from-time-to-time religion, tells us to be good & live to the fullest?
MOSTly, its people's desire to be bad, killing people & stuff.. i dont think any good religions tell us to do that..

I'm sorry, but that wasn't proper english and I didn't understand what you said. So could you repeat that please?


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what i'm saying is, you said earlier, that there is other explanation that can be said that the universe is not created by God.. so, what is your reasoning?


can you elaborate the "other explanations" is?

Wel yeah basicly we can give no logic explanation of how the universe is created.
How exactly this world we live in was created we don't know, but just saying "God" created it is an explanation that even primates could give us.

So either you believe there is a higher force (God) that governs this universe and saw to it that it was created; or you believe there is a more scientific & logic explanation to it wich we haven't discovered yet.
Either way it's a question of faith; of what you believe in.

But then again if God created the universe... who created god ? Everything starts somewhere right ?

God is like an advil or a tylenol, there is a time, a place, a people and a condition that needs it. For everyone else, don't bother unless you need it.

God is a very generalized form of support/explanation to many things that could not be explained in the past. In fact, Gods and goddesses were once used to explain the unexplainable, the sun, gravity, et cetera. In a scientific world such as today, God is not needed as an explanation to why or how, but it is still good to have a God for moral reasons. Now, not everybody needs a God, and that is fine, but a God is necessary for those who need one.

Now is it good to believe in God? There is no definite answer to that one. As somebody mentioned before, a lot of people have killed in the name of a so called God, but you're only looking at one extreme. People have also saved lives in the name of a so called God, so is it good or is it bad? The reason there is no answer is because there are too many instances in which believing in God has resulted in something good or bad.

Even though I hate overzealous religious people I think faith is a beautiful thing.

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excuse me? do you need to be that sarcastic?


but, you know that everything in this universe that been perfectly & precisely created (such as, anatomy index, flower's petal & so on) would not be created incidentally or got any other explanations.. then again, it must be some higher power to do so, which we may come to a conclusion with, God..



why would God being created since He already created all this stuff (all of 'em).. that is not a reasoning.

But..
yes.. this is about a faith.. logically, God creates universe with purposes..

Sorry for the sarcasm but I just wanted to point out that it is in human nature to explain the causes of inexplicable things to the existance of higher forces.

In other words it's the most simple and basic explanation that requires the least amount of intelligence and effort; yet remains one of the strongest answers.



Actualy we can already explain all of those without relying on the power of god.

Human anatomy is actualy quite a mess sometimes; don't even think about calling it "perfect".

quote: "Everything is PRECISELY created..." Would you mind clarifying that; because I can't see what's so 'precise' about everthing ...

quote: "would not be created INCIDENTALLY" Since when does science say that everything is created incidentally ?? Actualy if I'm not mistaken most things are created by a strong "chain" of causality.

Flower petals? Are you referring to to why flower petals take such a form? Because that's also already known....

Also lets assume we can't explain all of that. Why "explain" it then by saying "ow yeah god did that". That also not logical.
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Why would god be created since he already created this stuff ...

Well if you reason like that why can't flower petals just create themselves?
Or why can't the sun create itself?
Yet we believe it's only 1 higher being that has created all of this.
Isn't it only logical then to wonder how this higher being called God came to existance in the first place ?

Hiei_luke, you are so full of openings it isn't even funny.

In a topic about God, you can expect a few people to get sarcastic, it helps get a point across at times.

Everything in the universe that you think fits perfectly or is created precisely such as flower petals and so on came to being through centuries upon centuries of evolution, and it was not a perfect, precise or flawless process either. Countless species have become extinct do to failure to evolve and countless creatures have died to give the beauty of a single flower that exists today. Flowers, the human eyeball, even multi-cellular organisms did not come together in a single day nor do they magically work together through some magic force. It was milleniums of trial and error that BUILT UP to what it is today. It isn't that god created multi-cellular organisms, it is that they created themselves through countless evolutionary steps. The development of a single hand did not come in one leap. It could've started as a lump, or a claw that eventually divided into several digits after many generations.

Science itself isn't a phenomenon that god created. It isn't because of God that 1+1=2, or that coincidently molecular theory explains any and all materials. It was a process that humans created through research and discovery that it came to be. For all we know, we could be completely WRONG and that all things are not made up of tiny spherical molecules with orbits, but something completely different! It is just that so far, molecular theory has been heavily scrutinized and built up upon and it has worked. The law of evolution is technically a theory. It is basically an accepted truth because it has been scrutinized so much and has still passed the tests with flying colors so it is technically considered a law. Everything in the scientific and theoretical realm is the creation of the human mind just like how everything in the biological realm is the creation of evolution.

As for the first life itself, one could argue that God may have had a hand in creating that life because the life or soul cannot be explained through scientific means, and in that sense it is God that created all life or at least the first life, but it is evolution that allowed the life to become what it is today.

Now, the whole what created God concept can be seen as both a reasonable yet flawed concept. The "something must've created it" idea builds upon itself to the point that there is technically no origin to anything, everything is just created in an infinite cycle of, well a higher being created this, which created this, which created this...in short, it is an excuse not an explanation. The concept of God itself would be better seen as a being or life that emerged from nothingness. In short, God created himself (whether God wanted to or not). It isn't impossible for something to come from nothing, after all the human soul itself is a similar enigma. There is no explanation to how the soul works or how it has reproduced endlessly, it just does as a human or animal mind. When you think of the soul, then from a scientific standpoint it must've had an origin or a way it was created, and the answer is simply, it created itself. It just came to be.

But i digress...for me, i don't believe in god unless i need someone to blame. because inevitably, god is a concept that can neither be proven or disproven. with that said, God can be killed in a similar fashion. God is an idea in our mind and if everyone was to suddenly forget that a god existed, just like that God is dead. With that said, the concept of God still exists today and if anything, it is expanding. So for a concept that has both positive and negative influences on the world, it has existed for many milleniums so believing in God can't be that bad of a thing, can it?

Is it good to believe in God?.....in my mind God = BS ridiculous