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Proper Protocol for Manga as ∑ OneShots

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11 years ago
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So not covered in the FAQ is how to handle Manga that is a collection or contains previously released OneShots. So what is the Format / Standard Convention, to make a manga hold a collection of stories each with there own name?

Most manga that are an authors collection have a "初 出" (First Appeared) in the back of the book. I think MangaUpdates should have something similar.

So if the 34pg My Guns have Mother of Pear Grips was released as a one shot, and later put it to a Manga; when I as a user of MangaUpdates search for it, I would like to be able to get the Manga (which is the listing I would prefer). So because of that, when I make/update manga entrees, I would like to make easy understood.

I used to add the Story Names as Associated Names in the Manga. However name conflicts can arise doing that with the OneShot title (If it already exists). I can prepend "Chap x - " to prevent the collision, that but its not that elegant.

What I've done for a few is to add "Chap x - " to the Manga's description for each story it contains. This is can be searched for, but a user would have to know to select when doing an advanced search. It works but I'm hoping there is a better established option. As soon as I'm told something better I'll fix these.

Now if the reason that I see no consistency and why its not in the FAQ, is that there is no established way to handle this I would like to propose a solution:

  • Add a "Collected in" / "First Appeared" option set to the existing Related Series system.

This would solve a lot of the problems by linking the OneShot and its later Manga release, making an easy path to move between the two entries.

Only two minor problems I forsee with such a system. First is that the Story names would not have a Chapter number. But that's really not that important and "初 出" listings in the book rarely have chapter numbers anyway.

The second issue is that every story would need to have its own Oneshot listing, which is great for things like release dates and detailed descriptions that don't work well in the collected manga's entry. The problem is that the FAQ states that each oneshot would have to be scanlated to be a valid submission (where the manga is specifically exempt from the scanlated requirement ). So any non-scanlated chapters could not get their own entry and thus couldn't be added as a related entry to (the currently allowed) manga entry.

So as the second part to my suggestion is that:

  • non-scanlated Oneshots are allowed to be submitted via the Add Series form only if:
    •   the submission contains a "Collected in" entry to an existing Manga in the **Related Series** section of the form.
      

Less wordy version:

Add to FAQ the proper way to list story titles in a manga entry that is a collection of stories* and deal with OneShot <-> Collections Manga conflicts*

OR

Add a new "Collected in" / "First Appeared" option set to the existing Related Series system, specifically for manga entries that area collection of stories. Also update the FAQ on how to use it.


... Last edited by larek 11 years ago
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11 years ago
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I have to leave soon, so I don't have time to create anything for the FAQ, but to answer your question:

If a oneshot is added to a collection, the series entry for the oneshot is deleted and its title is shifted to the series entry for the collection under the Associated Names field. All name conflicts are resolved by adding the author in parenthesis after the name. This is how it is handled for ALL series, not just oneshots and collections. And I must note that if the author is in the database, then the format of the name must follow the name of the author entry.

We will not add anything new to the Related Series field.


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11 years ago
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Ok, So to get a OneShot Deleted, add the name with author to show that it should be deleted. Right?

I look forward to the FAQ Entry

No problem about the suggestion, it was just that (a suggestion)

in the FAQ about collections,
Please include what to do with:
Each Story's Description
Serialized In (magazine) for each story


... Last edited by larek 11 years ago
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11 years ago
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Should we notify the titles of oneshots that need to be merged in a specific thread or through the "request change" option?


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11 years ago
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You can use this:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=452

Or submit a Change Request


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