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lambchopsil
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3:07 am, May 20 2016
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Over the last couple of weeks, there's been some disputes between the scanlation group Yo Manga and the aggregate/scanlation group heymanga.xyz.

  • YoManga accused HeyManga of using their raws without credit and hosting their releases without permission. And apparently the hosting is automated, as I've seen it happen within minutes of the release going up...
  • HeyManga ignores the accusations and threatens with DDoS
  • YoManga's site goes down due to DDoS (although no one can pin it on HeyManga)
  • When YoManga comes back up, they start hosting HeyManga's releases without permission (and removing HeyManga's credit pages)


So it's basically like fighting fire with fire. Neither side appears to be letting up. Even earlier today, YoManga put up HeyManga's releases of Si-Eun.

In response, we've removed all of both groups' releases from MangaUpdates.

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yuno19
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3:35 am, May 20 2016
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I've been interested in reading their web manhwa release. They're so colorful and their lines are clear, but I've never get around to it. Maybe because I have some sort aversion against form/paneling that isn't for traditional printed book/magazine. Are they any good?

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cclark777
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3:47 am, May 20 2016
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Based off of the evidence I think you made a wise choice


Tmp341
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4:02 am, May 20 2016
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Man. Some mangas stay raw like forever, never find even a translator. But those groups are fighting. And if the accusations are correct, you did the right thing. eyes

VawX
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mmm...
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That's like double cancer action, better remove them before they spread, nice move mmm...

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heymanga
Post #680040 - Reply to (#680036) by VawX
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Hi guys,

I am owner of HeyManga and I would like to give you the full story coverage(from my side).

What happen is I do "repost" manga from Yomanga with their credits intact. Then I start doing H-Mate and I never use their raw, I brought it directly from the Korean website.

You do notice that I do translate for more than 10 titles and some is not even listed on YoManga.
The reason why I do this is because I enjoy reading Korean Adult Manhwa with Storyline. But YoManga was slightly slow, so I start to take on more projects and pay a professional korean to do the translation work.

What happen is then YoManga got ddosed and they accuse me because I once had a heaty argument with Leguron, this clear up after "Sam" the owner of YoManga believe its not me.

Then they receive this DDOS threat from some people (I think they offended a lot people) and they accuse its the doing of HeyManga.

I myself had business and projects and I was really busy, I send warning to Sam to ask him to put my credits up and if he not going to do it, I am really going find some way to teach him a lesson.

But WE had never took their RAW, while they took our translation(over 100 chapters) , remove our watermark and post at YOManga.

Attached is the prove.

http://i.imgur.com/UZcSSCT.png?1

This is my korean account(for my raw needs)

http://imgur.com/cll5K8v

I hope mangaupdates can continue write about heymanga, don't take us down, we are group that don't steal. We only repost, yes I agree repost is cruel, but its better than take someone else work(yomanga) and remove the watermark, and put in their own watermark.

We give credits to whoever translate the manga.

calstine
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I've never heard of either of those groups before, but I stand by MU's choice. Best to make sure their petty squabbles have minimum chance of bringing unwanted attention to our community.

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Sinjid
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A wise choice.

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VawX
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Okay then, this is exactly what we need, confirmation, because it was really vague before mmm...

Now it's up to Mangaupdates and you guys to settle the situation mmm...

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lambchopsil
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Quote from VawX
Okay then, this is exactly what we need, confirmation, because it was really vague before mmm...

Now it's up to Mangaupdates and you guys to settle the situation mmm...

Although it doesn't quite match up with what Sam from YoManga told me...

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svines85
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Looks to me like those two groups have brought this on themselves........this immature, overly-competitive crap just isn't good for the overall medium. This is no different than groups trying to poach titles from one another (something yomanga is also most definitely guilty of, above and beyond this particular situation)......so yeah, you brought this on yourselves by acting this way to begin with. Serves you right.

heymanga
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4:19 pm, May 20 2016
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HeyManga was never intend to do anything funny to any other site.

The manga that we do, are fully translate by us and paid by me on my own expenses. I hire a professional korean female translator to do the work.

I paid her per chapter, before that, I will buy the manga RAW directly from the 2 korean site, TopToon and Lezhin.

Definitely there were no cases of stealing. Was the raw really a matter ? Frankly speaking, the raw cost less than 1 USD at the site itself, why would we steal that, when we paid 5 to 10 times more for the translation and we won't use a low quality raw.

To add on, we are really a manga group that really want to do translation for the greater good of all manga lovers.

YoManga is unhappy because we tap into this Korean Adult Manhwa Market, but all we want to do is just to show good quality manhwa that does not have popup, malware or irritating ads. We also doesn't show any attitude to our users, we don't ban them or whatever.

If you realise, we actually did Kitsch (64 chapters), Ghost Some, Cohabit, Sie-Un, My Wifes, Sikinen, Twin Slaves, Guest House. All this were already on YOManga for very long but not translated.

We decided to translate them as not because they are on yomanga, we ensure it was not translate then we did it. It was high ranking in the TopToon & Lezhin.

Later on, we decided to do some manhwa that YoManga do(but we din't steal anything). I don't think its wrong to do a manhwa that someone already take(consider we take less than a few hours to release) while the latter group take a few days to release.

Its not our fault to be fast, comic lover have a choice to pick what they want to read and who to read from, our site are also safe.

We also tried to peace talk with Leguron and SAM directly for few time, about each session 1 hour, but after a day or two, SAM who promise to take down our manhwa that he copied without credit, did it again.

Reason is: His visitor love the new manhwa. Below are his emails

Sam Yomanga May 13 (8 days ago) to me

Ok so I'm deleting all your series on our site, I was gonna do it before but then we started getting DDOS, I thought it was you, and got angry that when I told you that I would delete your series why would you DDOS us. So I left the series up. Now looking at your chat with Leguron, I think it may be someone else. All I wanna do is run my site peacefully and I know you want the same. I think with all this drama our communications were effected by it, that's why our talks didn't reach anywhere. Anyways I wanna start new, so contact me when you read this. I am currently removing your series form yomanga. But we do Ghost Love with our own translation and clean so that'll be up.


What Hey Manga <heymangaxyz@gmail.com> May 14 (7 days ago) to Sam

Hi Sam,
do you really mean what you said ?

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Sam Yomanga May 14 (7 days ago) to me

I'm adding it with your credits? A Lot of users wanted those series, I'm add heymanga.xyz
Why are you ddosing me?

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So what happen is SAM did add credit of Done by HeyManga instead of Done by HeyManga.xyz (Only on page 1), and the font size is like 14px (at bottom left).

while every page got "YoManga.co" on top right, he is just outright using our manhwa, he don't have the resources to hire people to translate so he decided to steal our work. He keep giving excuses at here and reddit saying we steal his raws, come on. why would I steal a less than 1 dollar USD raw when I spent more than a few times on the translation itself.


After trying to reach him for a few days. this is what happen

Sam Yomanga May 15 (6 days ago) to me
We'll what I can do is that keep your original watermarks for the future uploads.

Sent from my iPhone

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He decided to only use it for future release, so what he do now is, he ask his translator "The Bester" or whatever, to read my manhwa, and rewrite it.

The reason why I know is because in the manhwa "Sie-Un" , the crazy fat guy who stalk the female lead is call "DUCK CHEON" which is translated by my Korean Female Manhwa artist, she say there is a few variation so she just give it a random name.

I realise YoManga also use the same name, then for same bubbles, he use exactly the same words. like

HUH?
WHY?

YoManga also the same. So now he stop repost my work directly (take away my watermark and put in his watermark), but he rewrite some of the lines, and then post it with high similarity.




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Everything focusing on User Experience at top most priority. I myself also did correct the word that was type wrongly by the Translator to ensure although our quality is low, we keep it at a read-able level.

Thanks,
HeyManga Team.

Last edited by heymanga at 4:32 pm, May 20

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heymanga
Post #680063 - Reply to (#680057) by Unknown
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5:04 pm, May 20 2016
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Frankly speaking. your recent outrage that thread was not done by me. I told you i am super happy that someone who hate you DDOS you on my behalf. Why the hell would I spent USD 1000 to ddos you when I can use this money to pay my translator for another 100 to 200 manhwa.

As you wish , top toon account. I will also screenshot my purchase. you are really naive, do you think its hard? I tell you how I get it, I went to some places to seek help, and I paid a sum for it, after that I am taught how to get it done.

Attached are my purchases to prove your shitty raw, i din't take any of it. why the hell will i take a 1 dollar raw when i spent a few times on the translation.

http://imgur.com/94Y2ZbG

Due to your paranoid and sensitive lady boy attitude, you start to ban your loyal chat supporter because they "spread" raw. Which in fact, whatever they post, I did not take it.

So how do I know you provide raw? This is what happen.

1 day someone on my site post on my disqus chat that Leguron of Yomanga is the raw provider,so I went look for you at chatango to see if I can get H-Mate raw from you. you told me what You buy phone from alibaba all those craps.

I can't get the phone, so I go find my korean friends to help me with the account part.
You keep thinking your supporter are the one who give me raw, and you ban them, I am sure you ban someone who is good with IT there. and got yourself some DDOS shit on your good friend SAM site.



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