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[quote=Bunny-chan]Even Yaoi-Con, the USA's only BL convention says that its not gay porn: http://www.yaoicon.com/what-is-yaoi

Your argument is invalid.

How exactly? Considering the BL convention's explaination is based after what many BL publishing houses and mangaka have stated. I also remember a BL mangaka had a tizzy when a gay man confronted her, check out Alex Woolfson's website:

http://yaoi911.com/

(Alex Woolfson is a middle-aged gay man BTW)

Because your source is horribly flawed. You shouldn't source something with an obvious bias, it has no weight.[/quote]
not to mention

So it's gay porn for women?

Nope. It's a female fantasy of what's sexually attractive, not a gay male one. Yaoi embodies the (actually quite common) female notion that m/m relationships are the stuff of high romance and beauty and true love and angst and impossibly wonderful sex five times an hour. Not surprisingly, yaoi tends to make real gay men snicker

it's porn bunny-chan, stop giving evidence for our argument, not yours 🤣

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not to mention

So it's gay porn for women?

Nope. It's a female fantasy of what's sexually attractive, not a gay male one. Yaoi embodies the (actually quite common) female notion that m/m relationships are the stuff of high romance and beauty and true love and angst and impossibly wonderful sex five times an hour. Not surprisingly, yaoi tends to make real gay men snicker

it's porn bunny-chan, stop giving evidence for our argument, not yours 🤣

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Kaerf, I think you officially win this thread.

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And a BL mangaka loses. Thanks for playing.

I suppose you can say porn, as long as you don not call it "gay porn", then I'm fine I guess.

“𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑜𝓈𝑒'𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑒𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓇𝓃𝓈.” ― 𝑀𝒶𝓌𝓁𝒶𝓃𝒶 𝒥𝒶𝓁𝒶𝓁-𝒶𝓁-𝒟𝒾𝓃 𝑅𝓊𝓂𝒾.
あたしは腐女子です。少女漫画、たくさん読んでください。

Ohwaitnowitisheterotohavetwoguysanaldippingwat

You can be a BL mangaka or any other sodomite, it has no bearing
as an argument.

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Ohwaitnowitisheterotohavetwoguysanaldippingwat

You can be a BL mangaka or any other sodomite, it has no bearing
as an argument.

I'm not a man, or a gay or bisexual one at that, so I cannot be a sodomite.

“𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑜𝓈𝑒'𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑒𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓇𝓃𝓈.” ― 𝑀𝒶𝓌𝓁𝒶𝓃𝒶 𝒥𝒶𝓁𝒶𝓁-𝒶𝓁-𝒟𝒾𝓃 𝑅𝓊𝓂𝒾.
あたしは腐女子です。少女漫画、たくさん読んでください。

hahaha this has to be the most hilarious topic in this forum
i love the "deal with it" train xD

I was wondering if any of the people who actually read and like yaoi consider it porn

you could say, in a way, that it is considered porn

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I was wondering if any of the people who actually read and like yaoi consider it porn

Many are, and Many AREN'T, some of my favorite titles could very well be called "porn" (Sensitive Pornograph, Finder Series, MINAMI Haruka stuff), but not all, and some like the works of TAKEMIYA Keiko and est em are sweet, erotic and overall GENIUS!

“𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑜𝓈𝑒'𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑒𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓇𝓃𝓈.” ― 𝑀𝒶𝓌𝓁𝒶𝓃𝒶 𝒥𝒶𝓁𝒶𝓁-𝒶𝓁-𝒟𝒾𝓃 𝑅𝓊𝓂𝒾.
あたしは腐女子です。少女漫画、たくさん読んでください。

A lot of people seem to put porn into a group of it's own, which isn't always incorrect, but there are times when it is there IN ADDITION TO, as opposed to being the main thing.

Take Berserk for example, there is porn in Berserk, but Berserk is not porn. Yaoi is not some magical exception. If there are pornographic scenes, those scenes are porn, no matter how good the story.

Dammit, I just forgot where I was going with this.

My point has probably already been stated in here somewhere anyway.

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erotic and overall GENIUS!

This is the problem with your argument.

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erotic and overall GENIUS!

This is the problem with your argument.

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Just... ugh...

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And you will murder someone one day, pika. If you're my daughter.

So, writings about sexuality and love always means porn? Erotic just means that.

Heck, the R-rated film, The Reader (I dislike it) but that is movie is erotic and its not porn. It has a full-body nude man in it, and it is still not categorized as porn.

(I think this topic maybe should be in the Yaoi/Yuri forums since we could get more fujoshi and fudanshi to vote)

“𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑜𝓈𝑒'𝓈 𝓇𝒶𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝑒𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓇𝓃𝓈.” ― 𝑀𝒶𝓌𝓁𝒶𝓃𝒶 𝒥𝒶𝓁𝒶𝓁-𝒶𝓁-𝒟𝒾𝓃 𝑅𝓊𝓂𝒾.
あたしは腐女子です。少女漫画、たくさん読んでください。

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Stop the abuse! Can't you see it's had enough 😢

...Seriously?

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