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16 years ago
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Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
Average looking+ or it's a no-go 😐
I can't exactly be attracted to a gay guy (such a sad, sad world.) That fact makes me feel so uninterested. Though if I could be a peeping Tom, that'd be a different story. For the sex ~ You know?
In yaoi, reading the extra bits (that aren't the sex) are great, I even like those bits, but there is a reason why shounen-ai irritates me (like my brain is being ripped apart), and why I avoid it. 🤣
So...After some thinking, my answer is no? I think. Give me Average looking or better guys and a hole to look through, then yeah, I guess so.
But other than that, I really have no interest.
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16 years ago
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I know a few gay guys that I thought were cute, but then again, that was before they came out of the closet....
Most of the gay guys I know of are overly gay, which isn't attractive to me. Crossdressing...talking girly...just being open in general, it's a turn off. It all depends on the personality. If I think a guy is cool, but I know he's gay, I'd probably like him a little bit. But then again, it hasn't happened to me yet so I can't really say.
I don't like real live men kissing as much as ones in manga though. Or at all.

16 years ago
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So here's the question:
Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
I think yes, as long as theyre not ugly and at least a little cute. And if they're not flamboyantly gay. We seem to stereotype gay guys as sensitive and that's why they sometimes seem attractive

16 years ago
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Not all guys like Yuri... I am one that don't really see much of a point about GirlxGirl o.o Yeah 2 girls is a hot sight, but if I can't join then there is no fun.
Younger guys have less experience and usually need an older woman to teach them (older as in a couple of years older not a fucking petrified tree), and the same applies to most girls (girls go after confidence and only guys with experience have lots of that).
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16 years ago
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16 years ago
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Besides, asking a guy why Yuri is hot is like asking a girl why Yaoi is hot :3
I'm female and I have no idea why girls think Yaoi is hot...two guys that want something that I am not equipped for doesn't equal fun time for me~
It's too bad that you are insusceptible to visual stimulation. It really helps when trying to figure out who you want to date. But not everybody can have discriminating tastes, I guess.
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16 years ago
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I'm glad more people than me agree that overly flamboyant gay dudes are annoying. I'm sure I wouldn't be very popular if all I did was project my masculinity and studly heterosexuality all over everybody else.
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16 years ago
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Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
If a man is attractive, he is attractive, sexual orientation is irrelevant.
seconded.
and i really like BISEXUAL boys. it means i have a chance with them AND may end up watching them get it on with another man, which i do find hot.
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Why do guys find yuri hot?
I don't find it hot, at all. 😐
When I read a BL/GL, then it's actually because I'm reading it for the plot, not for the "two same sex members are getting it on". :]
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Why do guys find yuri hot?
I don't find it hot, at all. 😐
Me neither.

16 years ago
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So here's the question:
Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
Like Rae, I think physical attraction is what it is for an individual, regardless of what that individual says or does otherwise. So, the guy is going to be attractive (or not) to me whether he's gay, bi, or straight. However, he can lose whatever "bonus" he might receive from being visually attractive when he opens his mouth, and I'm not big on flamboyance either. But neither of those has got anything to do with his orientation.
In general, it is more fun to yaoi fangirls to slash attractive males together, though.
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16 years ago
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Okay, so I was interested so I did a bit of researching (on top of the knowledge I had from a couple of classes on the subject).
<Warning - The following is composed of different resources. This does not mean it covers everyone in the world - so please don't get in a frenzy if I say something that doesn't cover you.>
And let me repeat these are all just theories that are composed from a variety of resources.
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Why do guys find yuri hot?
So other than the regular male answers of 'because it's hot', 'one word - boobs' or
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because women are like Voltron. The more you can hook up, the better it gets (which did make me giggle) what is the reason why men find multiple women together hot?
A Superior Girls Love
In many forums and blogs I've noticed this overwhelming trend of thinking that girlxgirl love is pure and wholesome and more emotionaly fulfilling where straight and boyxboy love is lacking in these qualities.
Kashim9999 said:
man = -1
woman = +1
-1 and +1 = 0
+1 and +1 = 2
So it's better. It's mathematic.
I don't really understand where this sentiment comes from, why would a woman be a +1 and man be a -1? Why can a female have a "perfect" relationship and males only mess things up? The only thing I can think of is pulling from the thought pattern that women are a 'perfect 50's woman' who knows no wrong (or has a thought in her head), and with these perfect women they can only have a perfect relationship. But if you put a male into this relationship you are only inputting a corupt device, because men are inherently evil. Which is ridiculous but is a ideal which has existed for centuries.
Inadequate Penis
Simply put, men don't want to see another man's penis for fear that this 'other man' will have a larger/more capable penis than themselves. It is linked heavily with low self-esteem.
Which leads to--
NO Rod but Mine
"Guys like lesbians, and in particular lesbian pornography, because they can watch a relationship without their sense of masculinity being threatened by seeing another guy in the frame."(quote from that_guy)
Fear of Men
Men are educated through their surroundings "the
survival skills of acting tough, not crying, keeping it to myself, not making mistakes or admitting
to weakness." (Quote from Paul Kivel) But through these survival skills they mostly learn not to trust other men. Other men are "dangerous" and to rely on one would be absurd. Thus watching two women, creates a "safe zone" that the male won't have to worry about the "dangerous" male interfering.
It's for the Male's Pleasure.Lisa Wade, Ph.D.
Men have this idea that women aren't together for themselves but for the male that is watching. They obviously aren't kissing because they are into each other but for the percieved male attention that should insue. But this only works if the two women are attractive.
Lesbians are hot...If they're hot. Sure, stick two attractive women/girls in the given situation and bam! you are faced with huge ratings and and a legion of horny fans. But what if these two girls are not as attractive or worse gasp "dykes"? Is it still hot? 'These women are not unacceptable simply because they are sexually attracted to other women, they are unacceptable because they are refusing to acknowledge and accept that they exist, first and foremost, to please men.'
Simply put, guys find yuri hot because ultimatly they believe the "show" is for them - and thus they have the possibility that they can join in on the fun.
A humorous 3 min video on this can be found here-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tHppucxMrM
Interesting
And one of the more interesting opinions I have found is from Mawootad "girls make far better characters than guys, so the fact that there can be more better characters is a plus."
Is it true that being a male character limits you on what you can be portrayed as? Do only females have limitless possibilities? If this statement is true then are we backtracking and suddenly the female's are the ones with depth and male character's are just there for a pretty face? Or is the male gender in whole just less deep in general?
Why do girls find Yaoi hot?
After plowing through the endless supply of "OMG because they are so HOTTTTT!!! drool" yadda yadda I found some interesting reasons for why the female gender enjoys yaoi.
The Forbidden Fruit
"Girls like it because of the fact that it isn't that accepted and is considered to be the forbidden fruit." (quote from koneko)
Penis Envy
"Penis envy in Freudian psychoanalysis refers to the theorized reaction of a girl during her psychosexual development to the realization that she does not have a penis. Freud considered this realization a defining moment in the development of gender and sexual identity for women...In contemporary culture, the term is sometimes used symbolically or metaphorically to refer to the idea that women wish they had a penis...While fashionable for a number of decades, the concept of penis envy is no longer regarded as a serious one by some modern psychoanalysts." (quote from wiki - sorry being lazy) So, women have an congenital desire for a penis thus seeing malexmale allows them to fantasize about their ideal, which would of course be them with the penis.
Androphobia
I came across one article from the publisher of Yaoi Press that oulines how women like yaoi because in any given relationship with a man a woman will usually be objectified and at any point could be (and most likely will be) the reciever of abuse. But if the two characters are male, the female viewers don't have to have such an emotional fear that the one being abused is them, because both characters are male. Thus they obviously don't have as much invested in the characters, and won't feel the fear that the one being abused is them. yaoipress
Women Aren't Allowed to be Women Anymore
"Women are romantics at heart. Back then the idea was that women ranked less than men. Being loved equally or given the highest consideration by men during that time was rare and the struggles that came with it bring tales of sacrifice and everlasting love. These days the homosexual male paints a more tragic figure. And since women aren’t allowed to be weak these days the effeminate homosexual male becomes a favorite means of escapism." (Quote from DesirayaGuri) Because obviously being female (effeminate) = being weak and less than male...
The Jelousy Clause
"...women are trained by society to always compete with each other. Women in society are encouraged by people to scrutinize themselves against other women to see who is truly superior. "Is she thinner than me?" "Is she smarter than me?" There is a lot of pressure on women these days to be the best! The comparing does not stop when they see romance. Is the heroine better than me? If she is better than me, does that mean that I will never find someone to love? However, in yaoi, such questions never come to mind. Why? Because there are no women to compare yourself to..." (Associated Content News)
So, after plowing through many fangirls/boys sites, forums, educational studies/articles, etc. The one I think I will stick with is--
Boys like boobies and Girls think its hottt(with a triple-T no less).
I'm sure there are more theories out there if so, please fill free to share them (I'm interested in the subject now...>.<) I would like to say that I'm sorry that the material was short in some places...honestly I just got tired of typing, plus I think this is probably far too long of a post as is.
And to answer some additional questions-
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It's too bad that you are insusceptible to visual stimulation. It really helps when trying to figure out who you want to date. But not everybody can have discriminating tastes, I guess.
You know what they say about people who assume...
Honestly, I don't understand why there are hordes of young females that want to read yaoi/see two males have sex. (Not that there is anything wrong with them liking it - to each their own, I just don't understand it). But, from what I've garnered from personal experience and others talking on the subject yaoi/yuri is the equivalent of smut -- it's supposed to give you those "butterfly feelings" while maintaining some essence of plot. And I don't understand why yaoi gives these girls butterfly feelings when it's with two males who irl would want nothing from them (because you are a female and they like males.) And how does (as a female) watching homosexual males help you "figure out who you want to date"? Are you suggesting this helps females discover they want to date gay males? I'm sorry but I don't understand your point here.
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I'm glad more people than me agree that overly flamboyant gay dudes are annoying.
I love for anyone to be as flamboyant as they want to be -- everyone has their own personalities and actions, to each their own.
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Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
Sure, I can find 'real live gay guys' just as attractive as real live straight boys -- now do I get my kicks from seeing these guys have sex? No. It's just not my thing, as I've said before I am not equipped for what a homosexual male would want, thus it doesn't intrest me.
I think this is the longest post I've ever made in my life, I'll be shocked if anyone reads it all.
But if you get a chance click on the video!! It's really humorous XD

16 years ago
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Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
A sexy man is good eye candy.
But that has nothing to do with his sexual orientation; I wouldn't find someone more (or less) attractive because they were gay.

16 years ago
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It's too bad that you are insusceptible to visual stimulation. It really helps when trying to figure out who you want to date. But not everybody can have discriminating tastes, I guess.
You know what they say about people who assume...
Honestly, I don't understand why there are hordes of young females that want to read yaoi/see two males have sex. (Not that there is anything wrong with them liking it - to each their own, I just don't understand it). But, from what I've garnered from personal experience and others talking on the subject yaoi/yuri is the equivalent of smut -- it's supposed to give you those "butterfly feelings" while maintaining some essence of plot. And I don't understand why yaoi gives these girls butterfly feelings when it's with two males who irl would want nothing from them (because you are a female and they like males.) And how does (as a female) watching homosexual males help you "figure out who you want to date"? Are you suggesting this helps females discover they want to date gay males? I'm sorry but I don't understand your point here.
I'm sorry. I guess I should realize that some people have no reading and comprehension skills at all. Some people find other people pretty. This can be an indicator of sexual attraction. That means they have an interest in seeing this person in a sexual manner. This allows them to pursue their interest and get a date.
Now, if you have two people, and you want to see them in a sexual manner, putting them together would make sense. Sure, you're not involved, but the fact that some people are VISUALLY STIMULATED means that seeing the event is still an attractive prospect.
You're coming to a queer conclusion. That the girls or guys are attracted to the homosexuality rather than the appearance of the characters isn't accurate, but you assume it so. No, they're attracted to the appearance, and want to see such a person do sexual things. They don't necessarily need to date this person. This allows yaoi and yuri to flourish.
So please, practice inferring information. It will give you a whole other level of insight into the world.
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Do girls find real live gay guys attractive as well (be them good lookin' or not) ?
A sexy man is good eye candy.
But that has nothing to do with his sexual orientation; I wouldn't find someone more (or less) attractive because they were gay.
Thanks for providing an example of how this works...
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