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Now I just don't understand why guys 'masculinity' is so easily threatened.

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...But if the two characters are male, the female viewers don't have to have such an emotional fear that the one being abused is them, because both characters are male. Thus they obviously don't have as much invested in the characters, and won't feel the fear that the one being abused is them....

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"...Is the heroine better than me? If she is better than me, does that mean that I will never find someone to love? However, in yaoi, such questions never come to mind. Why? Because there are no women to compare yourself to..."

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Yaoi can bring about similar...uncertainties, too.

I must remember, that I have my dignity ... somewhere ;_;

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I think this is the longest post I've ever made in my life, I'll be shocked if anyone reads it all.

But if you get a chance click on the video!! It's really humorous XD

I read it all o.o Even watched the video (didn't find it as humorous as you did.) 🤢

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I'm glad more people than me agree that overly flamboyant gay dudes are annoying.

I love for anyone to be as flamboyant as they want to be -- everyone has their own personalities and actions, to each their own.

Don't get me wrong. They can be as flamboyant as they want and I won't lift a finger to stop them. They've got as much of a right to be fruity as I do to be an asshole. That's still not gonna stop me from getting annoyed about it.

Alternate Example: I hate thug rappers, but if you feel like being a thug rapper, who am I to tell you to stop?

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@urdzy

Now I just don't understand why guys 'masculinity' is so easily threatened.

Because we are guys. Biologically we are driven to be stronger. It's not usual for a woman to be harassed by a bunch of guys, but when it's the opposite, there's something to that of which terrifies the mind. It's something that we rarely experience, so it's quite scary.

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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic

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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.

Urdzy, you post is going in my hall of fame.

@ExzyruSxxx : To ask that question is kind of the same as to ask why females are so emotional all the time. Answer - they're not. At least not all of them are. Can they be emotional some of the time - yes. But my post was more of a "findings"/theories post then all the absolutes (which from a sociological standpoint there are no absolutes...). I'm sure there are more ideas of why males like yuri and why females like yaoi -- just as many as why are males so different from females...I was just answering a question to the best I could of what I know/could compile. And some of the ideas (like for example the Penis Envy one) aren't even things that I personally believe in, but I wanted to fully cover it as well as I could.

@mewnbrite 2 offtopic things -

1. I love your username b/c everytime I see it, it reminds me of RainbowBrite^^
2. I love your usage of "shoo!" It made me smile. XD
   Now as far as the video, I'm sorry you didn't like it, it's just a light hearted way of explaining the point that was trying to be made "without the same degree of feminist ire". But at least it's only like 3 min so it was a huge dedication of time? ^^;;

@Pirate1019 I see, well thank you for clarifying~ ^^

@BoxBox Thank you for answering the question from a male's perspective. =D

@KennEH! I hope that's a good thing? ^^;;

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And some of the ideas (like for example the Penis Envy one) aren't even things that I personally believe in, but I wanted to fully cover it as well as I could.

You may not personally believe in it (no problem with that), but I know of people who do. I wouldn't doubt it if there's some psychological smattering of that amongst anyone who is or is considering FTM transgender, whether as a conscious thought or not.

If you've ever thought or said "Nice Guys finish last" and really meant it, then you should probably read this LJ post by DivaLion. It's incredibly insightful whether you're male or female.

From a bumper sticker I like:
"If you're gonna ride my ass, at least pull my hair."

Does Penis Envy really does have to only refer to the size of the Penis, I mean it could always be about income or assets. I mean I know a lot of guys who try to be ostentatious with their assets or income, be it a very nice car, house, accessories or maybe even how rich your dad is if you're THAT desperate for attention. As Freud once said "A Gun isn't a weapon, it is an extension of the penis." Every male likes to show-off their peen about something, sometime or another. Some people just don't care, (like me) I don't really understand materialism.

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I'll personally go with the

Kashim9999 said:
man = -1
woman = +1
-1 and +1 = 0
+1 and +1 = 2
So it's better. It's mathematic.

but girls also read yuri, there is Lilicious, one of the biggest yuri scanlations groups, the majority of their projects are shoujo/josei yuri rather then shounen/seinen yuri.

And there is alot more yaoi fans than yuri fans, that I've never seen an explanation for.

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Why do guys find yuri hot?

xombiecorp said it best. It's Visual, but that's not the whole story. its about 70% of it.

When a woman is turned on, a man gets turned on. Now for the rest of the explanation, we're going to assume that every male and female are sexually attractive.

Instinctively, men are the providers. This holds true during sex as well. When a woman wants to have sex, a man had better be ready to give it to her, and he'd better do it good. Thus explaining why when a woman is turned on, a man gets turned on.

Now when two women go at, clearly both of them are turned on. So now we men are on the outside sprung x2, hoping that we can somehow hop in there. It's every straight man's dream to have two girls at once, and when we see two girls going at, every man can only envision how much better it would be with himself in between, pleasing them both. 😎

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Does Penis Envy really does have to only refer to the size of the Penis, I mean it could always be about income or assets. I mean I know a lot of guys who try to be ostentatious with their assets or income, be it a very nice car, house, accessories or maybe even how rich your dad is if you're THAT desperate for attention. As Freud once said "A Gun isn't a weapon, it is an extension of the penis." Every male likes to show-off their peen about something, sometime or another. Some people just don't care, (like me) I don't really understand materialism.

In the original Freudian sense of the word, penis envy is just that: Women wish they had penises, taken quite literally. This isn't meant connotatively, such as women wish they were treated as men's equals, but that they literally wanted to experience the world with a penis, testosterone and all.

Over the years, the term penis envy has been corrupted to mean things other than than the literal original definition as explained by Freud - the materialism you suggest. I forget whether or not the original Freudian definition included men's comparisons of each others' size, but I think that came later as well.

For the discussion of why women like yaoi, I think the literal Freudian definition is the most germane to the discussion.

If you've ever thought or said "Nice Guys finish last" and really meant it, then you should probably read this LJ post by DivaLion. It's incredibly insightful whether you're male or female.

From a bumper sticker I like:
"If you're gonna ride my ass, at least pull my hair."

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I hope that's a good thing? ^^;;

It is, even though I'm not much of a fan of Freud's work.

I know a girl that likes Yaoi... and actually said she wanted to be born as a guy...

Anyway:

This is a very easy question, but I want your personal view on the matter...

Why do girls like guys that threat them bad?

Oh and I don't mean hitting them or anything, I mean guys that ignore them.

Because at first, I can like a girl that ignores me, but I will soon look the other way, don't need to focus myself on that kind of relationship.

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The James Bond kind of bastard guys are
more likely to have
offsprings that are born leaders, conceited,
ruthless, determined and so on. Although
we dislike such characteristics, they
are not the characteristics of a servant
or a peon. We dislike them just because
we don't want to be the ones holding
the lesser seats in the hierarchy. In pack
animals like humans, such matriarch/patriarch
characteristics are desired by built-in mechanisms.
All species aim to create the strongest,
most fitting offsprings possible.
It's nothing really romantic. Just
the embedded sexuality.
That's why the bad guys tend to win
over the nice guys. We aim to have
a triumphant genepool.

Your automed parts are against you if
you are looking for a person who cares
about you for a long time.

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Why do girls like guys that threat them bad?

Like everything else... it depends on the particular person in question, because both males and females have this tendency.

The general answer is that they are conditioned to be that way... as I understand it, they were raised in fashion where they can't except affection without a form of draw back(s) (whatever that is can also change from person to person). This can also be likened to those that cannot experience pleasure without pain.

It could also come from the idea that the relationship is not genuine unless certain requirements are meet within it. If it/they are lacking, the relationship is not a real/safe relationship to be in; therefore, they leave it... eventually they become conditioned to avoid such relationships in the same way some people avoid heights/crowds/large bodies of water/etc. (in other words it's like a phobia but it's not).

There's other reasons... but that's the very most basic answer.

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