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17 years ago
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we did kinda get off topic but wasnt really about "mrs potter" she was nothing more than an example of legal uses for copy right activity
And yes he does have spare change but to consider him rich is an exageration its not like he can just splurge money until his hearts content im sure he has to budget to make the cash last longer


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In the U.S. most authors reatin the copyright to their works unless of course it is a "work for hire".

But yes Kishimoto is rich. In 2004 his taxes were 112.7 million yen as reported on ANN


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Don't know, I mean most authors without self confidence IE noobs sell most if not all of their rights in order to get extra income, at the moment seems like playing safe and it is, when a publisher has most of the rights of a book/comic/manga they work extra hard in order to get more profit and thus the chances of the work becoming famous doubles ^_^

Kishi was a noob? dunno but probably

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112.7 million yen?

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is not a little of cash, but is not a huge either, and YEAH i did read the word TAX

As in most countries, due to various deductions, the highest earning individuals are not necessarily the highest taxed individuals.

lets say kishi got the 10% income tax (unlikely) that means he earned 1,127 million yen that year >_> that is a little less than 11 Million dollars

now lets go with the 37% with is the max income tax

If I am not rusty in math (and god knows I am) his income was 304.59 million yen that is a little less than 3 million dollars

So to answer the question, yeah he is probably rich, but not enough to make me WOW


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work for hire is most commonly used for cases like auto biogrphies in which they hire other authors to write but the copy right wont belong to the author. but the US is under Berne Convention Implementation Act which recognizes that there are multiple copy rights and moral rights [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works most authors will sell a certain amount of copy right and keep the rights which gain the most profit for exp: sales distribution and plot affiliation but no matter what every author must sell the distribution rights if not then the publicist will not be able to sell the work but comic book companies such as marvel and dc require you to give up all likeness rights and localization rights as well as distribution rights for exp:Batman they do not credit Bob kane nor did they ask for his permission to make a movie of it or a tv series this is cause DC obtains the likeness, localization and distribution rights to it they do not need his permission they just do what they want and send him money cause he still obtain sales distributions.

And i dont consider $1,120,800 in income tax to be rich lets just estimate that he makes over $3 mill a year he has to pay for his house/houses car/cars electricity cable/sattelite w/e he watches, water, insurance personally i spend more than 30k a year just living by myself (not including personal money just bills so not including food beers etc.) i dont know if kishi has a family or not but if he does thats less money for himself sure he earns alot but i probly earn alot compared to some one who works at mcdonalds doesnt mean im rich hell i gota move back in with my folks soon just to cut down on spending cash. but again im getting off topic . he isnt necesarily rich but he is doing very good it all really depends on his budgeting and his situation the only person that can really awnser this question is kishi himself


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I can't find anything that states that assigning rights to a publisher transfers ownership of anything, but I am no copyright lawyer. I am just going by what I have read on writing web pages, writing books, Writer's Digest and my step-son that is going to college to become a writer.

Anyone that makes more than a equivalent of $1 Million USD in a year is in the top 0.001% richest people in the world. So there may be no line that marks off what "rich" is but $3 Million a year sure isn't middle class to me. How much you spend in a year doesn't matter as you gain those assets that you spend your money on.

edit: Never mind my step-son just corrected me. Assigning IS selling ownership. Also he added that a lot of the work on comics and in animation is "Work for hire".


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yea it is work for hire but there are some cases like in Image comics where the creators obtain the most percent of the copy rights mainly character likeness which is what mainly allows the comics to be made into movies or shows or even merchandises. and completely off topic im a lawyer working for Florida Immigration center i dont deal with any copy right law cases but i did have to learn alot about it when i was in school and i do like to keep up to date with all types of law EXCEPT TAXES (way to confusing for me) 😀


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Is Masashi Kishimoto also the gensaku-sha? If I remember correctly Image has had problems with the illustrators and writers being separate people and both being the "creator".


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yes kishimoto is gensaku-sha for naruto and as for image having problems i dont remeber any cases like that but it seems highly likely cause if there is a different illustrator and author for the same series they probably will have many dispute over the creation but im not sure if a dispute a rose i know that the main purpose for image was to give main ownership to the creator so it could be that they didnt see eye to eye on where the plot was going i would like to know what series this was for though? if you know the series pm me so we dont spam off topic messages


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I can't find anything within Image now that I am looking for it. I may be thinking about the feud between Todd McFarlane and Peter David.

If several top tier mangakas attempt to do what Image did I think it would actually be very successful. They already do this to some unorganized extent with Comiket.

Of course if Kishimoto was to go off and do it I think that Naruto would have to end first. There aren't that many cases where a manga will be serialized in another magazine that I know of.

edit: I just found what I was referring to earlier. It had to do with Spawn characters Cogliostro, Medieval Spawn, and Angela that were introduced by writer Neil Gaiman. McFarlane argued that Gaiman had done "work for hire".


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yea if kishi made a manga as popular as naruto on his own publishing he would be filthy rich. And wow cant believe todd would do that he contridicted the whole purpose of image comics.


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I talked to him just now and he said he has no money.I said:tell me when to end the Naruto I will lend you 100 JPY
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1- Akira Toriyama : 1 483 000 000 Yens (11 251 069 €)
2- Kazuki Takahashi (Yu-Gi-Oh!) : 510 000 000 Yens (3 869 351 €)
3- Fujiko Fujio (Doraemon) : 456 000 000 Yens (3 456 640 €)
4- Hiroshi Arakawa (Fma) : 450 000 000 Yens (3 411 158 €)
5- Machiko Hasegawa (Saze-san) : 447 000 000 Yens (3 388 417 €)
6- Masashi Kishimoto (Naruto) : 374 000 000 Yens (2 835 051 €)
7- Konomi Takeshi (PoT) : 347 000 000 Yens (2 630 382 €)
8- Echiiro Oda (One Piece) : 333 000 000 Yens (2 524 257 €)
9- Takashi Yanase (Soreike! Anpanman) : 270 000 000 Yens (2 046 694 €)
10- Takehiko Inoue (Slam Dunk) : 200 700 000 Yens (1 521 376 €)
11- Ai Yasawa (Nana) : 200 300 000 Yens (1 518 344 €)
12- Buronson (Ken) : 124 000 000 Yens (939 963 €)
13- Syuho Sato (Say Hello to Black Jack) : 122 000 000 Yens (924 802 €)
14- Akimoto Osamu (Kochi Kame) : 121 000 000 Yens (923 000 €)
15- Hirokare Kenshi (Torishimariyaku Man Kôsaku) : 100 700 000 Yens (763 341 €)
16- Hiroyuki Takei (Shaman King) : 84 000 000 Yens (636 749 €)
17- Tennôji (Minami no Teiô 😉 : 82 000 000 Yens (621 588 €)
18- Kerae Ito (Atashinchi) : 79 000 000 Yens (598 847 €)
19- Yoichi takahashi (Captain Tsubasa) : 69 000 000 Yens (523 044 €)
20- Usui Yoshito (Shin-chan) : 67 000 000 Yens (500 000 €)
21- Harold Sakuichi (Beck) : 54 000 000 Yens (409 338 €)
22- Go Nagai (Devilman) : 40 000 000 Yens (303 214 €)

taken from RiTuaL ScaN ForGe

There's no date on this. Was it reported in the current month? And Rumiko Takahashi didn't get on here. I guess there's no re-read value in Ranma 1/2? 😳 😲 She has a really good lawyer and has stronger control over how anime series of her manga series are handled in the USA too.

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I find it humorous that you think he has any control over his anime at all. He sold his soul to his publisher. They own him, his manga, his characters, his anime, and anything else they want. The only thing he owns is his money. Hell, if his editor told him to have Sakura rape Naruto in the rear with a boken because it would add complexity to the character, he'd do it.

Whenever I read about mangaka and their editors in their freetalks/side manga comics in the volumes, it always sound more like a suggestion. Unless by suggestions it's "Do what we say or we'll fire you! >:-( "

What you're saying makes him sound like a puppet, or that he's a marionette and his editor is pulling the strings. And if that's the case with every mangaka, maybe we shouldn't be getting mad at the mangaka for screwing up the manga we liked, but the mangaka's editor.

And regarding JK Rowling, well she's sold probably way more books than the top person on that list. (Maybe she's sold enough copies that it would be more than the top 5 people on list combined...? 😲 ) She maybe get a different cut in the difference between an author and a mangaka, and since books are generally more popular and have a higher distribution around the world, while manga is probably mostly sold and read in Asian and somewhat in North America.


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