Grand love story is between? ....
10 years ago
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Okay so in the little afterwards at the end of season 1 currygom says the core plot is a love story.
[color=green]**Who do you think the core love story plot is between? What two characters? .... **
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So far the only ones even close to being a couple would be
Angi, and Brilith.
Well I guess you could say there's something between Ran Sairofe and Rana Reimia, but that's not as well developed? as Angi and Brilith. but those probably wouldn't be the characters the manhwa's love story is about.
[color=green]It'd probably be between the main character Kubera/Leez and what guy?
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My guess. Kubera/Leez and Kubera the god.
It makes sense to me. He bargains with the sura to kill Leez to prevent them from falling in love with each other or something. Causing a chain of events, that's leading Leez down the path she's taking. When she finds out the one she loves was the reason all these things happen she wants revenge, which is going to cause her to die young. Ehhhh I don't really have any concrete evidence. Other than how odd it is that he saves her live, and helps her a bit when he was the one that traded helping the sura to kill her.
I think anything between Leez, and Yuta would be a one sided love on his part. There might also be either a sisterly love, or another one sided love between Leez, and Asha ....
But I'm currently 10 or so chapters behind (but I doubt that they would persuade me to think otherwise.)
When I first started reading it I thought Kubera/Leez and Gandharva, but my thoughts changed. Especially since
Gandharva only thought about his daughter (because he loved his wife so much) and when there seemed to be something romantic like between Gandharva and Teo Rakan.
I'm going to reread everything from the beginning to see if there's any foreshadowing. (Or things I think are hints my guess as right.)
[color=red]EDIT[/color] After reading Mizura's comment two posts down. I'm adding an additional question to this OP. Luckily the question still fits with the title, heh.
[color=green]What do you think the love interests are for the other characters?[/color]
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10 years ago
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SPOILERS!! - A lot, so I won't mark them, just do not read it if you are not in the second season of Kubera.
I do not think it is clear yet if the main romance will be Leez-Kubera or Leez-Yuta. But the reason Kubera the God is trying to kill Leez is because of the power of the name, not because he will fall in love with her. And not only Leez, but anyone that has his power of the name (so maybe he does not want to kill Leez now because he 'saw' some feeling he has for her in the future - he has insight, but it is not perfect as Visnu. So maybe if he kills anyone else with his power of the name, it will be enough and he won't have to kill Leez, or he want to delay as much as he can her fate, or he wants only her to live with his name in the end).
He is cooperating with the Sura to kill anyone with his name, there are many, so it is not strange that he maybe protects Leez "for now", maybe leaving her as the last one.
But for me, the story can go either Leez-Yuta or Leez-Kubera, because as someone predicted to Leez, "There will be a person with her until the very end". Considering the awareness Kubera (the God) has towards Leez (and her hair ahah), I think is him, but that is not final yet.
10 years ago
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Some readers noted that Currygom posted on her blog (in Korean, sorry) that every main character has his/her official 'love line' (not necessarily requited). Yes, even Asha and Maruna. xD
So, if we go by that...
Agni likes Brilith.
Brilith probably likes Agni.
Ran likes Rana.
Leez doesn't really love anyone yet, but her love interests are God Kubera and Yuta.
Yuta likes Leez, obviously.
God Kubera will likely fall in love with Leez.
Gandharva loves his wife, and who knows? Maybe he'll reconcile with Teo.
Sagara was probably in love with Ananta.
No idea for Asha.
No idea for Maruna.
Of course, the 'core' love story is the God Kubera / Leez / Yuta triangle. Even though it's taking its time, I'm pretty sure it will develop with time.
10 years ago
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Quote from Mizura
Some readers noted that Currygom posted on her blog (in Korean, sorry) that every main character has his/her official 'love line' (not necessarily requited). Yes, even Asha and Maruna. xD
So, if we go by that...
Agni likes Brilith.
Brilith probably likes Agni.
Ran likes Rana.
Leez doesn't really l ...
Woah, I think Maruna and Shakuntala have a potential love interest, if Shakuntala
is still alive, tho
I have no idea about Asha, maybe she's best if she's alone.
God Kubera liking Leez? It's possible, her hair I think XD
Leez is probably opening up with Yuta and God Kubera, Although I wish she'll fall inlove with Yuta(much to my fantasies)
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10 years ago
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Finally finished catching up to the current V.2 Ch. 96 that are scanlated (Even took a peek at the others until ch. 99 ... couldn't understand it, but I can take a feeling by the pics.) 🤢
First to Mizura's comment about there being a romance of some sort between every character.
Brilith Ruin <---> Agni
Ran Sairofe <---> Rana Reimia
Kaz Lehn ---> Leez/Kubera Maybe more as a small childhood love.
These guesses be may be somewhat spoiler related ... well if you haven't read up to where I have.
Teo Rakan <---> Gandharva
Zard Blain <---> Clari Utas This one I'm just throwing out there ;)
Sagara <--- Vasuki (possible this onesided love will become mutual)
Sagara <--- Riagara ... it would explain some of his actions
Maruna <---> Shakuntala ..... questionable ....
Claude Yui <---- Laila Hemawati This may turn mutual but ... not sure ....
Lorraine Rartia <--- Saha On This may turn mutual ... but ... there must be some reason she's not marrying him.
Okay now to my bigger guesses.
As stated in the OP above I think Leez/Kubera and Kubera/God. I said Asha Rahiro to Leez as a sisterly love, and I still think that's true. Asha being an older sister, but also a bit jealous of her younger sister. Now something that's new to my guesses I think in the end Yuta will end up with Asha.
Time for spoilers to back up my claims >.<
Since the Asha and Yuta one is a bit easier to explain.
Okay so Asha once asked Yuta who he would choose if she and Leez were on opposite sides. Of course he stayed silent as his answer is Leez, but when Asha said it out loud for him, he saw that she was hurt. As if it wouldn't have been as easy as black and white to pick Leez.
Asha been able to talk to Yuta more openly than she has to anyone else. Yuta also seems to understand her the most. Take for example "Letting Leez know Yuta is a sura" Ran said she approached it wrong, and only showed how Leez side felt. When Yuta was also saying she had worded it wrong, he also said he know it was for his sake. That she wanted the two of them to get along. Not much but I think it's still possible. Time will tell for this one.
Leez/Kubera and Kubera/God (To make this easier I'm just going to call her Leez).
First time Kubera appeared in his child form, Leez tries to pick him up. He sees her efforts and pats her head. Up to this point and for most of the story so far Leez never blushes. She flashes to a memory she has and thinks it feels the same as some other time. Now this flash could be a couple of things. Maybe her father when she was young. Maybe it was Kubera that has visit her once when she was young. Or maybe somehow thinking of the future. (from a dream?) She quickly brushes it off as embarrassment. Embarrassment or silent sign she's fell for him?
Yes, Kubera started touching her hair out of curiosity, but later it seems more like signs of affection.
Second meeting in the water channels. Leez asks him is there anything she can do to make him happy. (to repay him) Note that Asha has saved her life, and she never asked anything about repaying her, or something that would make her happy. I think her asking him that question was when he started falling for her. (Or maybe when he saw her pink underwear back in the Golden Knight arc.) Back to why Leez would ask him that. If she thinks she's a pervert, a thief, but a good person. Well she doesn't feel the need to make everyone she thinks is a good person happy. Also with his insight he saw she was talking to him in an informal way. (Saying there's some form of closeness.)
Third meeting. (After the Sword of Re was taken) Leez wakes up on Kubera's lap? ehh one of his legs. From what we've seen of how Leez sleeps. It's crazy, and all over the place. (you know half off the bed, belly exposed and such.) Even when she was sleeping in the water channel next to her friends. She didn't cuddle with Asha or the others. Leez says what you like me as a joke (probably) and Kubera stays silent. Kubera wants to spend the day with Leez. When there time runs out. When she finds out she won't see him again she feels really sad. Why? She's spent very little time with him. Enough to feel that sad that she won't see him again? Leez asks him what if she wanted to stay with him. Implying she would stop seeing her friends just to stay with him. (yes, paraphrasing.)
When she returns to Kalibloom she feels like she doesn't really fit in. At this moment I see that she didn't have the same level of comfortableness being with Asha, Yuta, and Ran that she did with Kubera. Other things to take note of - She made a comment that if you want curry mushrooms you pray to Kubera. Leez remembers most things Kubera says word for word. She also seems to take Kubera's advice more than Asha's. The fact that Kubera gave Leez a choice to die now or still live. (Seeing as killing her would be bad for him, strength wise.)
Now for a brief guess of why I think Yuta's "love" will stay unrequited for Leez.
Leez thought of him as a little brother when he was in 2nd stage. Yuta wants to eat her sometimes O.o When he hugged her (I think the 2nd time) he hurt her hands. Actually the fact that he's physically hurt her more than once. (Note Kubera never has, and he's really strong. Although he did try to imply he could break her neck in the Golden Knight, he never actually chokes her. I think his hand only hovers around her neck). This need to monopolize Leez, and have her all to himself. (Seems like he's willing to separate her from Asha and Ran, even though she loves them like family and wants to be with them.)
It makes a lot more sense if Kubera is the main love interest with the whole, He caused her mother and everyone from her village to die, they fell in love with each other, she goes off the deep end because he was the cause theory. Although after Agni's last insight. It seems more, she lost her village, wanted revenge, lost everyone close to her, still her Kubera, she has to carry his name (She said those exact words in the insight), she got upset at him for indirectly causing her mom to "die". Wait that's my same theory ...
Spoiler from ch. 99
Yuta forces a kiss on Leez. Seems like he might be hurting her hands again, because of his desire. Not sure would need to wait til I can peek at the next chapter. But I really don't see it ending well ... (Like when he tried to take her "hostage" )
Ch. 100 came out ... Yeah that did not go well, but in a way I didn't expect.
Maybe I'm grasping at straws, or maybe I have awesome skills at picking up foreshadowing clues. 🤣
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10 years ago
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Actually, Currygom only said that all the main characters have an official love line. The main characters are Leez, Asha, Ran, Yuta, Maruna, Gandharva, Sagara, Brilith, Agni and God Kubera. Though, of course, that doesn't exclude love lines for other characters. 🙂
About Sagara and Riagara, Riagara is female, and she's probably the daughter of Sagara and Vasuki (family resemblance: red eyes, pale skin, plus on her blog profile, her inherited attributes, fire and darkness, are the source attributes of Vasuki and Sagara). So, she is probably zealous when it comes to Sagara because Sagara is her mother, plus she grew up with a father who supported Sagara's dreams. Incidentally, Pingara, Cloche and Clophe also seem to be Sagara's children, judging from their attributes. It wouldn't be the first time for Currygom to reveal a parent-child link only later on (we only learned that Shess is the child of Airavata much later on).
About Gandharva and Teo:
I'm not entirely sure about Gandharva and Teo. I don't think Gandharva actually loved her romantically. Now that Teo has lost her memories, the romance has also been cut off from her side. Gandharva also caused a lot of damage to her city. She shouldn't be able to forgive him easily. That said, a lot can still happen.
About Asha and Yuta:
The relationship between Asha and Yuta is one that I find very interesting, because Asha has come to view Yuta as the only one in her group that she can confide in, and she is also the only one in her group who didn't treat Yuta as just a little kid from the start. I think it's possible for Asha to like Yuta. However, I don't think Yuta likes Asha in a romantic way. He is Way too obsessed with Leez, thinks Asha just views him as a card, and after the latest chapter, he'll think twice before 'falling in love' again (because he risks just eating the other person).
Besides, I'm not sure whether Asha will survive the season. She had several death flags this season.
As for Yuta x Leez and God Kubera x Leez:
The entire series of Kubera is filled with what I refer to as 'relationship timebombs.' When the time is right, they explode, and things get really messy. We've seen that happen with Yuta and Leez. However, the timebomb between Leez and God Kubera hasn't set off yet. We don't know what will happen then, but we do know that Leez becomes miserable in the future Because of God Kubera because of the insights.
On the other hand, despite how much Yuta has hurt her, Leez either already has or will forgive him. In ch. 2-96, she was thinking "don't go" after what happened. In ch. 100 (season 1), her future self is sad that she wasn't able to lessen Yuta's pain. In fact, even in Taraka's insight, we see Yuta attacking Leez, but Leez is holding his cheek. I think Leez has already realized that Yuta didn't Mean to hurt her. On the other hand, God Kubera has been manipulating her on purpose all this time. It'll be ugly when she finds out.
So basically, Yuta x Leez is in a situation where a major relationship bomb has set off between the two, but there is a bigger bomb between Leez and God Kubera that will detonate sooner or later. When that happens, God Kubera x Leez will become a wreck as well. That said, I do think that both relationships can be salvaged, and I do think God Kubera x Leez is somewhat more likely, but the reason for the latter is simply because the series is titled after Kubera. So he's, like, more important. :\
By the way, Leez doesn't only remember God Kubera's words. She actually has impressive memory for just about everything. Ran took note of it once too.
By the way, there is no grasping at straws in Kubera. Kubera is a series Made to be over-analyzed. Currygom leaves dozens of trails of clues in her series on purpose for readers to be able to deduce things on their own. It's amazing. 😀 It's a bit off-topic, but you can find an essay about that here:
http://www.batoto.net/forums/topic/18622-essay-kuberas-massively-multi-layered-mysterydrama-structure/
10 years ago
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I've always felt that Asha had feelings for Rao.
While Ran might have liked Rana, I speculate that he might shift towards Leez,
possibly being the one who will be with her throughout all her suffering.
And perhaps, Maruna liked Shakuntala at some point,
Brilith and Agni
Brilith could have grown to love Agni, but she'll never replace the one he is searching for. I think Agni only loves her like a friend/child he is looking after. ie) Like a 13 year old who likes her 18 y/o brother's friend. The friend can't ever really grow to truely love her romantically
Kubera and Leez might have a thing.
So many possible contenders for Leez
10 years ago
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Quote from Thouarttammy
While Ran might have liked Rana, I speculate that he might shift towards Leez,
possibly being the one who will be with her throughout all her suffering.
Brilith and Agni
Brilith could have grown to love Agni, but she'll never replace the one he is searching for. I think Agni only loves her like a friend/child he is looking after. ie) Like a 13 year old who likes her 18 y/o brother's friend. The friend can't ever really grow to truely love her romantically
Would you still think that if you find out Ran and Leez are related?
I think Ran's aunt is related to Leez's mother. Since they have the same last name. This is why he has a probably with her name since it's both her dad's and mom's last names. This would also explain why he was close enough to Rao that he knew he had a kid. While fighters who knew Rao didn't know he had a kid.
When Leez had that spell casted on her (the one that shows how you look 12 hours before you die) people made comments about how she looked like Rao. Even Teo, but she never thought maybe his daughter because I suspect that very few people knew about Leez.
I think Ran already thinks Leez is Rao's daughter, just hasn't pushed to confirm it.
Brilith and Agni - Ha that's how I feel about Leez, and Yuta. She views him as a younger brother, than maybe an older brother.
Edit to respond to the post below -
lol I'm not sure, (probably, I mean even in the US can 2nd cousins get married 1st in some states) but I think Ran and Leez has a more father;daughter sort of love going on.
Ahhh but is Ran kind of like Leez when it comes to knowing something, but not saying anything?
(Asha and leez - older sister/mother bond. Yuta/Leez younger brother/brother bond, as least from Leez perspective.)
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10 years ago
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Can't cousins still get married in Korea ^^?
Eline Haias and Ran are not related by blood. They are in laws. Eline is married to Huan Sairofe.
He is suspicious about her name, but has not speculated any further. Ran doesn't really do any deep thinking for something that seems so trivial. He also did not see her face when Hoti Yama was casted on her.
10 years ago
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In Kubera, people with the same family name are not necessary 'close' relatives. For example, Brilith's mother, Jibril Ajes, and Praul Ajes (old guy in Atera), are cousins 9 times removed (so, practically not related at all).
The Kubera human population is a lot smaller than ours, there are probably prominant families who have a lot of members everywhere, but after many generations, they aren't necessarily closely related anymore. In fact, Ran only theorized that his aunt is a 'distant relation' of Leez's.
Even so, I don't think Ran likes Leez romantically. The relationship between the two is more akin to a big brother / little sister relationship (or even friendly uncle / little girl) than any other in the group. I really like the relationship between the two, because Leez brought out the mature, 'responsible adult' side of Ran (which makes sense because he's actually twice the age he looks), but that's exactly it. The relationship between the two is not one between peers. Whenever there's an issue regarding Leez, Ran talks to Asha instead of discussing directly with Leez. In turn, Leez doesn't seem to view Ran as someone she can really open up to (this might have changed if Ran actually discussed things seriously with her as an equal). His opinion of her might change after she grows up, but right now, Ran views her as the 'poor little orphan girl who is mistreated by big bad Asha and who is destined to die young.'
Anyway, I agree that Ran has probably guessed that Leez is Rao Leez' hidden daughter. Rao was the idol he looked up to though, so he probably thinks that it's his turn to take care of his daughter.
By the way, although it's true that Leez used to think of Yuta as a little brother (especially one to protect), her image of him obviously changed after he grew up. I doubt she suddenly fell in love with him, but she can no longer see him as a little brother to hug and protect, at least.
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I would root more for Leez and Asha, than Leez with any other character in the manhwa. In my opinion their relationship is the most interesting and best developed, but since Asha turned out to be a girl and since I highly doubt currygom would go for an untraditional pairing, I guess it wont happen. Wish Asha had been a male as I thought at the beginning, no doubt many would say they have a romantic relationship then. I love Asha nonetheless.