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8:27 pm, Jul 29 2009
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The most annoying to me is the, bad guy gets stronger, beats good guy, good guy trains for about 5min, good guy is stronger again, scenario.

Also I hate the fact that in HArems you always know who the MC is gonna be with after the first chapter or so.

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This isn't exactly a cliche, but I'm not a fan of how long and drawn-out shounen series tend to get. Even good stories become tedious when publishers try to milk it to death. Too bad that shounen mangas are the money-makers, so the incentive will always be to water down the plot to keep it going for as long as possible.

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I read the first couple of pages and I see that it starts to repeat itself.

The cliches I hate in shounen manga are:

* The gag factor, where the writer just takes uses anything he can to make you chuckle...
Like the fact that for some reason shounen characters never lock the door to the bathroom, or even if they do the lock is probably broken, and even if everything is all right he will end up falling through the roof.

Plus they have the perfect timing, either the girl is just taking of her panties, soaking in the tub or wrapped in a towel.

* The bigger the better/ and the smaller the stronger cliche:
In most shounen manga they usually have huge swords and the bigger it is the better.
While the smaller the character is the stronger he will be. There is alwayes the huge guy will all the muscels and everyone thinks "DAAAAMNN he must be strong" but the usual small main char is strong enough to take him out with his pinky...

*Childhood friends love: Probably the one I hate the most is this one, whenever there are childhood friends one if not both will love the other. Why is thatconfused I have childhood friends, am I weird for not being attracted to themconfused

*The almighty sensei: Whether it's a fighting, sports, adventure or just your normal school life there is always a person who used to be famous in the field the hero wants to pursue...
Whats more this person, if not introduced in the 1st chapter, will be met during the story even though he is considered lost, dead, retired.

*An unlimited potential: The hero in all shounen manga has the potential to become the best... this is usually followed by two paths, the "work hard and you will succeed" or the "you are a genius and you are almighty".

And the cliche that makes shounen manga what it is, is the friendship cliche. Sure I am loyal to my friends and I will help them when in need but if they betray me, or lets say destroy a whole city I will not try to save them and try my hardest to remain friends.
I will either join them and help with the destruction ( thus remain friends) or understand that I can't be friends with everybody and forget about them...




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I hate it when the ninja or Sparkle-Ranger or whatever (basically the hero) is fighting the villan, the villan SEEMS to have the best of him/her, but then the hero goes "BUT YOU FORGOT ABOUT MY MYSTICAL POWERS OF THE HALF-CHEESE MOON! eek KAZAAAM!!" which is something always done in Naruto and Yu-Gi-Oh.

I also don't like the fact that every second is a whirl of fists, swords, or other various (And way too large to actually fight with-Inuyasha, anyone?) weapons.

Don't even start me on Fanservice and Harems, for I will rant for hours. mad

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yea i really hate the "my friends are the bestest in the world despite them being complete assholes to everyone else." yea, i totally understand that they can be redeemed but really?!

case in point: Naruto and Sasuke. he is a missing-nin. The efing purpose of a ninja is to stfu and obey orders. Sasuke not only broke that but he left his homeland and join basically a terrorist faction. Damn Naruto manga for destroying ninjas just like Twilight is doing for vampires.

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A shounen cliche my first post too XD The main character will always be the strongest in the end
I hate this one as I don't like the fact the friends never catch up or the rival etc. Its always the main character in the end that is the strongest

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i hate the cliche when the love interest is in danger. the protagonist ALWAYS, ALWAYS appear just in time no matter what happened to them before(argument, fight, broke up, watever) and then he proceeds to beat the shit out of the bad guys and he and the girl lives happily ever after. ergh!

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I like this even thought it's cliche:

When the guy looks really scary, but in fact is a nice and sensitive guy:
ex:Toradora XD love it!



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How there's always some other badass with more powers than you have(someone may have mentioned this already).

God, it's always there. It's so annoying. Gary was that badass in pokemon to Ash, Sasuke to Naruto, Byakuya to Ichigo, etc.

GG. Everybody has to get pwn'd first for the story to go on >>"

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The nosebleed thing doesn't bother me, because a few people have explained to me that in Japan it's a cultural shorthand for an erection. You know how in Western comics, if a character has little birds circling his head, you know he's dazed/concussed? A nosebleed just means the little cartoon person has popped a little cartoon woody. If you look at it that way, all of the nosebleeds make sense in a genre where the protagonists are fifteen year old boys.

The clichés I don't like:

- Kidnapped girlfriend.

- The tomboy girl is a terrible cook, but for some reason, the protagonist has to eat what she made. He takes a bite and his face turns blue with little vertical lines over his eyes.

-Within the first ten issues of the comic, some experienced character witnesses the main protagonist using his power for the first time. They are amazed. ("I've never seen a zanpaktou that large! (snicker)" "My God, he defeated so-and-so." "Who is that? His power is off the charts." etc. etc.) The main protagonist then gets handed an ass-kicking by a powerful bad guy. He gets 10x more powerful or whatever. He defeats the powerful bad guy, but soon faces an über bad guy who kicks his butt again. He trains, gets 10x more powerful again, and defeats über bad guy. This continues again and again. Eventually, the character is about a thousand times stronger than when he started out, but he's still getting shredded by the über, über, super, boss bad guy. ---So what was everyone so impressed about back in the beginning??!?

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The indecisive, the type to save enemies who become friends later, who only become powerful when they see their girlfriend, and I can probably name another few.

I wonder if you guys noticed that you named the prime essential parts that make a shounen. If you take a few of those "cliches" from the shounen it wouldn't make it a shounen now would it?

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fake deaths or no deaths that crap fails cant expect me to believe people fight each other beat the living crap out of each other and no one dies its just ridiculous

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THE COOL GUY THAT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING CAN FAZE (READ: HIBARI KYOYA).

I hate that guy, and I hate the manga.

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I wonder if you guys noticed that you named the prime essential parts that make a shounen. If you take a few of those "cliches" from the shounen it wouldn't make it a shounen now would it?


Beck? Dr. Slump? Blackjack? etc...

A shonen manga doesn't need to have crap writing and terrible story telling, The only reason why this shit is still around is cause people keep buying it. Hopefully it'll die one day so that in the future a new generation of manga-ka will come along and make something original.

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New character added at the end of an arc overlooking the protagonist and going "kukuku" and/or "things are going just as I planned"


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